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Cera (all ceramic RDA)

topkek

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Does anybody own one of these yet? I'm curious what effects the all ceramic design has on temp control and flavor. I suspect it would perform nicely but I don't know shit. The center post is weird too. Has any other RDA used a center post design like that?
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I'm tempted to buy one just for that sexy finish.
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topkek

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Nice video. I missed it when I did a quick search. They could have used a little more cotton lol. The more I look at it the more I want to like it but the non-adjustable airflow is kind of a turn off. I'm still undecided on whether that center post design is ridiculous or not.
 

Pancho_Brown

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That looks gorgeous. I've never been a fan of bottom airflow drippers, but I may have to buckle down and pick one up.
 

robot zombie

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Oh, hey! I was looking at this one a while ago. Thanks for reminding me!

Just nabbed one on fasstech. We'll see how that goes.

I have 8 RDA's. What's one more? I'll report back on how stupid/not stupid it is in a coupla weeks. lol
 

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Oh, hey! I was looking at this one a while ago. Thanks for reminding me!

Just nabbed one on fasstech. We'll see how that goes.

I have 8 RDA's. What's one more? I'll report back on how stupid/not stupid it is in a coupla weeks. lol
Post pics of it when/if you can. Thanks.
 

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Any questions you may have I'll answer, the middle post is a bastard to say the least. Difficult to get used to building on. Once you get it down. Its very airy while maintaining the flavor you expect from bottom flow. Fairly sized juice well and the top cop Is sexy... I paid 36.99 for it. If I lost it I wouldnt seek out another. Simply because the middle post. Your standard grub not would be amazing in this RDA. Based off difficulty to build though no sir.

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Discobob

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Boy the flat black would look really cool on the petri mod:) very interesting rda and wonderfully priced:)

Might have to check this one out....
 

topkek

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Any questions you may have I'll answer, the middle post is a bastard to say the least. Difficult to get used to building on. Once you get it down. Its very airy while maintaining the flavor you expect from bottom flow. Fairly sized juice well and the top cop Is sexy... I paid 36.99 for it. If I lost it I wouldnt seek out another. Simply because the middle post. Your standard grub not would be amazing in this RDA. Based off difficulty to build though no sir.

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Thanks for the info and video. I think I'll wait for it to come down a few bucks in price before I give it a go or wait to see if a v2 comes out with a normal ass post design. I feel like the center post would be all right if it had the option to close off some air flow to run a single coil.
 

pulsevape

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there have been a couple of RDAs with ceramic deck bottoms and there was an italian BF atty with a ceramic bottom...they had a reputation for flavor...I would suspect that this atty has a nice flavor....on the other hand I wouldn't trust the judgement of anyone who wears a pink floyd t-shirt.
 

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So, my cera finally got here. Took long enough. Not much to really say that TF Vaping didnt but...

...initial observations. This is not a 22mm flush RDA, it's a little fatter than my 22mm devices. Definitely closer to 23 or 24. I'm assuming the girth is there for durability and heat retention. One thing that really threw me off about the appearance is that there is no logo. It otherwise looks just like the authentic. I'm not sure whether its a clone or if they really did batches with no logo. I would be willing to believe either one. It's heavier than I thought it would be. I would have figured it would be lighter, but the weight's not a bad thing. It feels durable.

The glossy black is finish nice. It looks like zinc plating... ...just sort of that warm gunmetal look to it. Quality is higher than that of most SS atties in this price range.

The fitting on the top barrel is nice. Snug, but not so much that it gets stuck. This may have to do with the fact that it's ceramic. No sharp edges to snag and scrape on. It pops on and off tight and smooth. The overall build quality on this RDA is quite good.

The airflow is very wide-open - not quite MX v4 open, but close. If any of you own an MX v3, it's quite similar to that. I think because it has freakshow holes on the deck and the teeny 1.5mm holes going all around the top, you get more airflow than you think. The tip itself is wider than a 510, but will fit 510 tips. I personally think this makes it feel like a tighter drag for how much air you're pulling in, which is something I actually quite like. Just be warned that if you find that it's too much airflow for the tip, there is no way to close it off. I like the balance of it, myself. No need to make adjustments, no lining anything up.

It's basically set up to be a high-powered flavor atty. The vapor production is nothing to scoff at, but what's really notable about the vape itself is just how dense, cool, and smooth it is. And the flavor just cuts right through that. Sort of an indirect flavor vape in that the airflow is setup in such a way that keeps the coils and heat away from your lips, but it still comes through like the more direct flavor vapes you'd get from something like a Freakshow Mini or a Derringer.

It came pre-built with what look to be 4-wrap, 2.5mm, .3 32/26 claptons. The interesting thing is that they were mounted as sleepers. I couldn't get them to fire evenly for the life of me, so I took them out. They probably weren't a bad match for the atty... ...it's just not what I would run in it. Now, it also came with some clean dual 24g's that were also sleepers. 6 wraps at 2.5mm. Read .25 after mounting. I was impressed, as that's actually a fine mech build. The flavor I'm getting from it in this atty is respectable for what it is.

Now, lets talk about the deck. The airflow is set up just like a freakshow inside, even though it comes out like a kennedy on the bottom. The juice well has to be at least 4mm deep - it's very deep. I'm not too worried about leakage, as there is enough space behind the airholes to tuck the wick in and off of them completely. That being said, leakage is obviously going to be a thing no matter what you do with a bottom airflow. I just think that they could have done far worse with it than they did.

The post setup, I don't think is actually too bad. I think what they had in mind was something that'd make doing sleeper builds easier, which it certainly does. You don't have to wrap the second coil with the first one already mounted. You can wrap them both off of the atty and slide the middle lead right into the groove. The sleeper duals that it shipped with went in real easy. How this will work with standard duals, I'm not so sure, but for now, I am fine with the the deck layout. It's not what I would have preferred, but it's not impossibly difficult to build on.

I don't regret buying it so far. The flavor on it is really, really nice. Only time will tell how I feel about building on it.
 
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Cackalacky

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I'd be scared to death of dropping it and watch it smash in little tiny pieces lol, sure looks sexy though
This is what would prevent me from purchasing one. It has "shattered" written all over it. Also I feel that ceramic base would weaken in short order with the stresses of screwing it down combined with heat exposure.
 

robot zombie

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This is what would prevent me from purchasing one. It has "shattered" written all over it. Also I feel that ceramic base would weaken in short order with the stresses of screwing it down combined with heat exposure.
Holding it in my hand right now, I wouldn't be so sure that it's all that delicate. That whole copper ring on the bottom of the deck is your negative. Under the ceramic, there's probably a copper plate running all the way in to where the 510 is, which is copper positive and negative. If you took the ceramic off of it, you'd essentially just have a normal, copper 3-post deck with no juice well.

So basically, if it's built on the inside the way it looks to be on the outside, then the main part that actually screws down and bears most of the pressure will be that solid copper piece, not the ceramic. It has that plate supporting it not only on the inside, but at the point of contact with the connection on the mod. If you look at it, there's a 2mm flush ring of exposed copper around the point where the bottom meets the mod - the main stress point where the bottom is pushed up and twisted against the mod is copper.

The entire deck wall assembly is ceramic - I don't think there's any metal frame inside of it. The bottom is insulated with a separate piece of ceramic which is simply cut out with holes for the posts to come up though, so the whole thing is kind of sitting on top of the copper base.

Maybe under the same sort of heat you'd get from an SS RDA, the ceramic would crack, but what I'm noticing as a I chain vape on it is that the entire RDA stays cooler than most. Even the posts and 510 pin aren't much warmer than the barrel, which gets just barely warm.

There's not a lot of metal inside of it and quite a lot of ceramic surrounding what little there is. This isn't the same material as the stuff they use for those cheapo ceramic tweezers. The heat capacity on this RDA is no joke. The ceramic material they used is very dense and substantial. It's as smooth as glass, but feels as solid and hard as metal - Pyrex would have to be twice as thick to feel as firm and sturdy as this material does. It would probably take a lot to heat this sucker up. I just don't see it getting hot enough to crack with regular, or even heavier use.

Now, like any glass or ceramic material, it is eventually going to become brittle under the prolonged heat, but I dunno. I feel like I can trust the design and materials on this one. I think it would take a lot of prolonged heat to crack it. I would think that anything short of taking a torch to it would probably be fine.
 
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TF Vaping

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Holding it in my hand right now, I wouldn't be so sure that it's all that delicate. That whole copper ring on the bottom of the deck is your negative. Under the ceramic, there's probably a copper plate running all the way in to where the 510 is, which is copper positive and negative. If you took the ceramic off of it, you'd essentially just have a normal, copper 3-post deck with no juice well.

So basically, if it's built on the inside the way it looks to be on the outside, then the main part that actually screws down and bears most of the pressure will be that solid copper piece, not the ceramic. It has that plate supporting it not only on the inside, but at the point of contact with the connection on the miod. If you look at it, there's a 2mm flush ring of exposed copper around the point where the bottom meets the mod - the main stress point where the bottom is pushed up and twisted against the mod is copper.

The entire deck wall assembly is ceramic - I don't think there's any metal frame inside of it. The bottom is insulated with a separate piece of ceramic which is simply cut out with holes for the posts to come up though, so the whole thing is kind of sitting on top of the copper base.

Maybe under the same sort of heat you'd get from an SS RDA, the ceramic would crack, but what I'm noticing as a I chain vape on it is that the entire RDA stays cooler than most. Even the posts and 510 pin aren't much warmer than the barrel, which gets just barely warm.

There's not a lot of metal inside of it and quite a lot of ceramic surrounding what little there is. This isn't the same material as the stuff they use for those cheapo ceramic tweezers. The heat capacity on this RDA is no joke. The ceramic material they used is very dense and substantial. It's as smooth as glass, but feels as solid and hard as metal - Pyrex would have to be twice as thick to feel as firm and sturdy as this material does. It would probably take a lot to heat this sucker up. I just don't see it getting hot enough to crack with regular, or even heavier use.

Now, like any glass or ceramic material, it is eventually going to become brittle under the prolonged heat, but I dunno. I feel like I can trust the design and materials on this one. I think it would take a lot of prolonged heat to crack it. I would think that anything short of taking a torch to it would probably be fine.
I've dropped mine a few times dripping. It bounces lol no crack though. Whatcha think about the center post? I hate it. If it was a standard post the cera would get a lot more use from me

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robot zombie

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I've dropped mine a few times dripping. It bounces lol no crack though. Whatcha think about the center post? I hate it. If it was a standard post the cera would get a lot more use from me
*Shrugs* While I don't think it was a wise idea, its not a dealbreaker for me. It's not all that different from any other 3-post decks. I think it's a great thing to have for sleeper builds. Mounting those sleepers it came with was the easiest thing in the world. It just makes positioning standard coils a little trickier. I've found that I actually can get both pieces of wire in with the thumbscrew just barely screwed on, so mounting coils is pretty much the same as it is on other 3-post atties.
 

robot zombie

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So, I just learned something new about the Cera. The copper ring on the outside is completely external, as in, it comes off. It was just glued on with some apparently shitty glue... ...or more, the deck just wasn't primed for adhesive. I can see the gloss under the patches of glue.

Makes me wonder if it is in fact a clone. The only thing that has me thinking its not is how strange it would be for something that's so obscure to be cloned.

I think what I said about the rest of the deck still holds up, but that is nonetheless a thing.The bottom piece on the inside of the deck has four holes where you can see the copper underneath. Still, might not be as much copper inside of the deck as I thought. Just judging by how far out to the corners the holes where the copper shows through are, I'd still assume there's a plate in there, but those could just as easily be pins for a smaller, x-shaped plate or even just a framed structure.
 

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