So I recently picked up an avocado 24, and let me start by saying that I am loving it. I've never been super heavy into building(always looked at building as a hobby/novelty), even though I really enjoyed the process of building, using my RDA always seemed too inconvenient. Anyway now that I've gotten an avocado I'd really like to make the switch and name it my new all day tank. The cotton I used for the first couple of builds were the organic cotton pads, but I'm now running out. I tried a couple builds using native sucks and I absolutely hated it because no matter what I tried it just wouldn't properly wick. Anyway I'm trying to get suggestions before I buy more cotton. I've read some great things about cotton bacon v2, but it seems on the internet everything I read about any vaping product is overwhelmingly positive and I'm almost always disappointed. I'd appreciate any suggestions, ideally which some kind of explanation of pros and cons. Thanks a bunch!
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Tom, have you tried Rayon?....Personally, after using cotton for about a year, Rayon beats the hell out of any cotton or designer cotton wick material, and it's cheap as hell. 500 ft box of roll Rayon cost about 20 bucks...enough to make a few pillows and give chunks to friends. Hard to burn it with even small amounts of juice on the wick. Just damn good stuff, and tasteless.
Cool buddy, thanks for such a quick reply. I've never heard of Rayon before, Is it a brand of cotton or a different material all together?
Rayon is a synthetic material, not cotton at all - most of us devotees (I'm one) use Graham's Cellucotton, available in 40' or 500' boxes from local beauty supply stores like Sally's. Make sure you're getting 100% rayon fiber without an inner paper wrapping (this is clearly marked on the box) if you go this route - I've been on rayon for almost a year and have used less than 1/2 the 40' I bought. To me, it's got a shorter break-in time (10 puffs or less) a longer burn-out time (50 ml or more) and is just generally superior with regard to heat resistance and longevity as compared to any type of cotton.
Cotton-heads will no doubt chime in with claims that rayon is toxic and will kill you, or simply with anecdotes about how they had bad personal flavor experiences with rayon. To each their own, but for me rayon is the only way to go...
Cotton-heads will no doubt chime in with claims that rayon is toxic and will kill you, or simply with anecdotes about how they had bad personal flavor experiences with rayon. To each their own, but for me rayon is the only way to go...
And Rayon rope wick looks waaaay better in the avocado!!
but for cotton if thats what you want - I get this at amazon:
Cotton Labo ORGANIC Cotton Puff Size L (120pc) or Koh Gen Do Organic Cotton 80 sheets for Skin Care
but the rayon rope is great as well.. just started using that and do like it
but for cotton if thats what you want - I get this at amazon:
Cotton Labo ORGANIC Cotton Puff Size L (120pc) or Koh Gen Do Organic Cotton 80 sheets for Skin Care
but the rayon rope is great as well.. just started using that and do like it
tried the ceramic wick stuff, didn't like it one bit, mainly because it tended to shed particles, which seemed like a really bad idea for a use where you're inhaling.
I've used the rayon and liked it well enough. Currently using muji cotton from fasttech (good price on it). IMHO, either one is a winner. Never tried the cotton bacon, just seems overhyped to me.
I've used the rayon and liked it well enough. Currently using muji cotton from fasttech (good price on it). IMHO, either one is a winner. Never tried the cotton bacon, just seems overhyped to me.
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As @OBDave points out, rayon is an option. I've used it, and I just don't care for it.
When it comes to cotton, I use pads. Puffs brand cotton pads are cheap and easily bought. I have tried all the foo-foo cotton bullshit in the market. Ya know what? My personal opinion is it is all bullshit. Cotton is cotton. All that "made for vaping" is nothing but a way to part you with more of your money.
Puffs pads are the cheapest way to get a wick in your RDA. They taste the same as any other organic, unbleached cotton.
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I alternate as the mood and atty vary between the Graham Cellucotton (rayon) and Cotton Labo (Puff) JOC. Either work well. The rayon wicks a little better but tends to be a little flyaway when handling. The trick I've found with rayon is to wick a little tighter in the coil than you would with cotton as it doesn't expand like cotton. It also tends to stay cleaner longer. Wicked properly there's no noticeable taste to me from either. The biggest thing with any wick is getting the density and length right for that wick.
I'm actually a pretty big fan of the cotton bacon, though, I try to find it with some sort of discount (if I can't, ill buy something else). Its normal price is straight up ridiculous. The small bag holds more material than might be expected, but still..
I wouldn't say it has better flavor, but I have experienced a lot of diversity in quality in anything I have used. Its plenty absorbent, and does seem to last a smidge longer than some other cotton products.
Tearing strips of the chunks of cotton is oddly pleasing to me though. One of those weird, inexplicable things. I mean, it is pretty darn easy to handle and no scissors are needed until the final trim.. but I haven't found another that gives me the same tear experience. Some are close, but tend to be in rolls.
Yeah, I know I'm strange.
I've yet to try rayon, but out of the cotton products I have tried, I like the Bacon best. Still not enough to justify its price.
All that said, for most people I think wicking material is one of the easiest, most inexpensive facets of vaping to try a bunch of options. Other than products like readyxwick, its all pretty darn cheap, easy to find, and available in small "tester" packages. Might as well try it all!
I wouldn't say it has better flavor, but I have experienced a lot of diversity in quality in anything I have used. Its plenty absorbent, and does seem to last a smidge longer than some other cotton products.
Tearing strips of the chunks of cotton is oddly pleasing to me though. One of those weird, inexplicable things. I mean, it is pretty darn easy to handle and no scissors are needed until the final trim.. but I haven't found another that gives me the same tear experience. Some are close, but tend to be in rolls.
Yeah, I know I'm strange.
I've yet to try rayon, but out of the cotton products I have tried, I like the Bacon best. Still not enough to justify its price.
All that said, for most people I think wicking material is one of the easiest, most inexpensive facets of vaping to try a bunch of options. Other than products like readyxwick, its all pretty darn cheap, easy to find, and available in small "tester" packages. Might as well try it all!
Cotton bacon v2 is far better then any other cotton but a little expensive. Totally worth it in my opinion though.
I've not yet tried cotton bacon, though not sure what's to improve since I don't taste anything 'off' about other organic Japanese cotton. Just my opinion or impression of it.
Something like muji brand joc pads runs $3.45/oz (2.5oz bag for $8.28 on amazon) vs cotton bacon v2 which is $17.11/oz (0.35 oz bag for $6 at places like lightning vapes). I know many people say they're amazed by how much cotton is packed into the package but at the end of the day x ounces is x ounces and it can only physically go so far. Cotton pads can also be pulled apart and fluffed into more volume. At a $34 price premium over joc it would have to be pretty special stuff imho.
Something like muji brand joc pads runs $3.45/oz (2.5oz bag for $8.28 on amazon) vs cotton bacon v2 which is $17.11/oz (0.35 oz bag for $6 at places like lightning vapes). I know many people say they're amazed by how much cotton is packed into the package but at the end of the day x ounces is x ounces and it can only physically go so far. Cotton pads can also be pulled apart and fluffed into more volume. At a $34 price premium over joc it would have to be pretty special stuff imho.
That's why I went with the muji, the price is great compared to things like cotton bacon, and it's gotten good reviews from people. Plus, since it's formed into little squares, it's very easy to handle and easy to carry spare pieces of. I cut a strip of with a pair of scissors that are dedicated to cotton use only (so they wont be dulled), peel the outside pieces off, roll with palm to shape and neaten, thread through the coil, clip, fluff the cut ends some, tuck the tails into place, and done. I bought the 140pad bag for under $8 (they're now 180 pads per bag) in June of last year and I've barely made a dent in it.
Yea that's what I've been using, the 180 pad bag. Been using it the past month and think I've used maybe 2 pads, possibly 3 but that's when changing flavors, testing new flavors and trying different coils. I expect it'll last me a good while. Not many flecks of debris that I've come across, looks just like the cotton bacon I saw in the vid on lightning vapes site except smaller pieces.
People must rewick way more than I do because a $6 bag of cotton bacon v2(sales all the time on the bay) lasts me a really long time. I actually prefer the small and flatish bag it comes in as it fits in my little rebuilding box beside me really nice. Maybe I am crazy but $5-6 bux for months worth of wicking is really good. I get that people like value and I have a 500' box of cellucotton and a big ass bag of muji behind my chair but frankly the full $7 retail price for a bag is not that expensive.
I've been using rayon for the last couple years as wicking, its great stuff. You get box #44060 of rayon from sallys. If you do get a breakin taste from rayon then your atty is wicked wrong, usually too loose but it goes away after a few vapes. It outlasts and out performs cotton in my builds. Take apart a crispy build to find inside the rayon is still quite clean and hardly scorched so with most builds the coil goes before the rayon.
True, $7 isn't too expensive until it's broken down by oz. The same bag of joc that ran me $8 would cost me over $42 in cotton bacon. In that respect it's pretty pricey. Not saying it's bad, looks like decent cotton and most people give it good reviews. For the convenience of a small bag I could simply put a few pads of joc in a small ziploc baggy and put the remainder elsewhere.
Each person depending on their wicking needs, how many coils, design etc will use a different amount. By my estimations I can go through a wick a day for over 3yrs on $8 worth of cotton. Not really sure what cellucotton is, also not sure what cotton bacon's advantage is. They say it's pure and no chlorine used to bleach it which are the same properties of joc. It's also pure cotton, organic and unbleached (no chlorine).
Cellucotton 100% cotton looks to be an even better price, around $6 for 3.2oz but no mention if it's processed or not. Some people in their reviews said it had an off taste or a slight off taste at first. Taste is subjective though and seems like there are always some people who find an 'off taste' with just about any product depending on the person.
Each person depending on their wicking needs, how many coils, design etc will use a different amount. By my estimations I can go through a wick a day for over 3yrs on $8 worth of cotton. Not really sure what cellucotton is, also not sure what cotton bacon's advantage is. They say it's pure and no chlorine used to bleach it which are the same properties of joc. It's also pure cotton, organic and unbleached (no chlorine).
Cellucotton 100% cotton looks to be an even better price, around $6 for 3.2oz but no mention if it's processed or not. Some people in their reviews said it had an off taste or a slight off taste at first. Taste is subjective though and seems like there are always some people who find an 'off taste' with just about any product depending on the person.
Well you'll know once you try it. Its much more absorbent holds more juice. No nasty tasting break in period. It lasts much longer. Has better resistance to heat. It's night and day really.
I find the cotton bacon gives me the best and longest vape. Its more absorbent and handles heat better. When I say heat though I dont just mean dry hits and burning. I find with JoC even in a perfectly wicked build it breaks down under the coil faster. You pull it out and it almost has a wear to it like frayed rope. I also feel like gunks less but that has many factors like your build and what juice your using so if your using a sweetener heavy darker juice it is going to gunk no matter what the wick. It also fluffs an incredible amount more so than JoC.
Cellucotton is actually wood pulp so it is organic in nature and cotton bacon is essentially a dental cotton processed differently to suit how we use it. I am by no means saying it is cheap in comparisons to other wicks I am simply saying even at the full retail price which I have never had to pay the amount you get and the longevity you get from it really is not bad at all and this is coming from a super cheap "dont but it unless its a steal of a deal" type person. A $5-7 pack of cotton bacon which lasts me months of great vaping is still cheaper than what a lot of people pay for a pack of cigs that lasts them one day
Like I said in my first post, I've experienced a pretty large diversity in products as far as "taste" goes. Meaning, from one package to the next of the exact same product, some will be a bit off. Would be nice to get some consistency.
Weight might also be a bit misleading with pad-types, as many tear off the lining on both sides. Id be interested in how much usable weight there is, rather than just the raw weight.
Id still say the bacon is overpriced, but its tough to do a meaningful comparison without equalizing some important variables.
You guys are spending way too much money on cotton. Just go out to your laundry room and raid the lint trap.
Clothes dryer wicks. These are obviously from a mixed load, and I prefer the lint from an all white load, it's 99% cotton and to me has a cleaner taste. Sometimes I pick out the dog hairs, depends on how recently she was bathed. Scottish roll works well for this stuff.
Clothes dryer wicks. These are obviously from a mixed load, and I prefer the lint from an all white load, it's 99% cotton and to me has a cleaner taste. Sometimes I pick out the dog hairs, depends on how recently she was bathed. Scottish roll works well for this stuff.
If someone's after surgical grade sterile cotton (usp grade A), amazon sells brands like medline at roughly $11 for 16oz. I'd say that would be pretty close to cotton bacon's description. Cheaper than either cbv2 or joc, the same 10 strips of cbv2 at that weight would run $272. I give them props, they're making a killing on repacking a cheap product in a colorful bag at 2400% markup over retail surgical grade.
Course if just a few ounces is enough to wick for a couple years I can't imagine going through a 1lb roll lmao. Maybe set the roll up at one end of a table, pinch the end, line up everyone's atty's in a cloud comp. Wick it in one long go through everyone's coils and snip to length?
Course if just a few ounces is enough to wick for a couple years I can't imagine going through a 1lb roll lmao. Maybe set the roll up at one end of a table, pinch the end, line up everyone's atty's in a cloud comp. Wick it in one long go through everyone's coils and snip to length?
Yep, but there are some who will fight tooth and nail to defend their favorite cotton/kool bag design lol.
Nope they don't.
No, 99 cent store cotton balls are cheaper. Otherwise I agree.. Cotton is cotton.
The best wick is the wick you like best. From my experience, once you get the wicking methods dialed in, there is no difference, taste wise. At least for me. There are big performance differences though.
They do. But it's your opinion.
Buy all the cotton bacon you want. It's your money.
People have been vaping pads and cotton balls since we started wrapping coils. All this "fancy" cotton made for "vaping", is just hype, and marketing.
Where do you honestly THINK they are sourcing the cotton from? The same place all other materials manufactures are. It's all grown and processed the exact same way.
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www.sephora.com/pure-cotton-P300602 available in store also
shop.nordstrom.com/s/koh-gen-do-pure-cotton-pads/3826848 available online only
might just check with the "missus" , fellas, she may have a box
shop.nordstrom.com/s/koh-gen-do-pure-cotton-pads/3826848 available online only
might just check with the "missus" , fellas, she may have a box
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you may be right about it being all grown the same and shit but the bottom line is when vaping there's a clean difference in quality and flavor using cotton bacon vs those pads and cottons balls .
Yes, I've tried cotton bacon. I agree there IS a clear difference.
Cotton bacon is/was touted as being organic. That means by definition there is NO chemicals in it, or used on it. How come it's so WHITE then? Organic cotton is NOT white. It's a very light shade of brown.
Huh... Must be because they use BLEACH to clean it. Hence, not organic. Hence, it also gives it an off taste.
So if you like cotton bacon, GREAT! It's still noting more than bleached cotton fibers. The same as any OTHER bleached cotton fibers, like cotton balls. It's just not fluffed, like cotton ball fibers are. Less processed, in other words.
But I'm sure you are one of those guys who doesn't buy into something because some vape wanna be celebrity told you "this shit is sick as tits!", right?
Come on man. I really don't care what you use. Just don't try and bullshit ME. I didn't fall off the turnip truck. If you like it, use it. Just stop with selling this stuff to be something it ain't.
I actually never herd of cotton bacon untill I posted in here about the nasty taste I was getting from using other cotton and alot of people on here recommended it. There is absolutely no off taste or break in period with cotton bacon v2. Your high as fuck bro. Also those organic jap cotton pads are white to.
Also no where on my cotton bacon pack does it claim to be organic
The organic pads I'm using are mostly white but there are little flecks in the cotton and it's actually a slight off white, not the stark white of bleached cotton. Organic can be tricky, it may apply to how the cotton was grown and not to the final product so on a technicality there may be bleached 'organic' cotton. Medical/surgical cotton as cbv2 uses, at least by actual medical supply companies, disclose that their cotton is in fact bleached.
Cotton is naturally white, the flecks come from the seeds and things as it's grown and harvested. I can attest to that since I've actually picked cotton off the plant. White yes, blinding white, no. The brownish ecru color is more found from linens, not the cotton itself. Here's as organic as you can get, still on the plant. It's fairly white.
Never having used cotton bacon I can't give my own subjective opinion on flavor, but compared to other options the 'vaping' designated cotton is quite pricey whether it's cotton bacon, native wicks, or any other specialty item. Some people have noticed no difference, some say it's better than others, some people can't stand it so there are opinions all over the place on it. It's about what works best for people and whatever they like is 'right'.
I wasn't saying cbv2 was crap, just merely pointing out it's overpriced for what it is. Some people may care and others may not. It's nice to have alternative options though so people can choose for themselves. A cadillac escalade and gmc yukon denali are almost identical save for the pricetag and logos. Same body, same frame, same engine, same leather seats etc and they roll off the same assembly lines. Fuel is advertised as 'unleaded' and prices went up as opposed to 'regular' leaded fuel. The problem being the lead in 'regular' was an additive, lead isn't inherently found in fuel. It's not that they're extracting the lead from the fuel to make it 'unleaded', they're calling it what it was before the additives and charging more for it.
Cotton is naturally white, the flecks come from the seeds and things as it's grown and harvested. I can attest to that since I've actually picked cotton off the plant. White yes, blinding white, no. The brownish ecru color is more found from linens, not the cotton itself. Here's as organic as you can get, still on the plant. It's fairly white.
Never having used cotton bacon I can't give my own subjective opinion on flavor, but compared to other options the 'vaping' designated cotton is quite pricey whether it's cotton bacon, native wicks, or any other specialty item. Some people have noticed no difference, some say it's better than others, some people can't stand it so there are opinions all over the place on it. It's about what works best for people and whatever they like is 'right'.
I wasn't saying cbv2 was crap, just merely pointing out it's overpriced for what it is. Some people may care and others may not. It's nice to have alternative options though so people can choose for themselves. A cadillac escalade and gmc yukon denali are almost identical save for the pricetag and logos. Same body, same frame, same engine, same leather seats etc and they roll off the same assembly lines. Fuel is advertised as 'unleaded' and prices went up as opposed to 'regular' leaded fuel. The problem being the lead in 'regular' was an additive, lead isn't inherently found in fuel. It's not that they're extracting the lead from the fuel to make it 'unleaded', they're calling it what it was before the additives and charging more for it.
Wow I can't believe it took me this long to start posting here, thanks for all of the replies you guys are awesome. I just ordered some Japanese organic cotton pads but I was wondering if those are the same as what a lot of sites will send for free with your orders, because I've loved that stuff. It's basically little squares you can basically tear an entire layer off before wicking. I hope the joc pads are the same ( or similar) because I love em.
Btw , just built my first dual in the avocado 24 with fused Clapton wire and I think it looks (and vapes) sweet. Here's a pic, opinions and suggestions are. Much appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
Btw , just built my first dual in the avocado 24 with fused Clapton wire and I think it looks (and vapes) sweet. Here's a pic, opinions and suggestions are. Much appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
I usually cut pieces off the squares of joc but I imagine you could pull it apart. The fibers have a grain to them, laying one direction. If you grab and pull the end of the fiber lengths and pull like pulling a string end to end they're pretty tight and not much flex. If you pull side to side they separate and thin out (like when fluffing and thinning it out for a scottish roll wick). Keep pulling and they'd peel apart.
Looks good for a first build on the avocado. I'm a bit ocd so I'd probably take a small pair of wire nippers and clip the tails of the claptons a bit closer to the posts. So long as you're getting good vapor and flavor off it then it's a success in my opinion.
Looks good for a first build on the avocado. I'm a bit ocd so I'd probably take a small pair of wire nippers and clip the tails of the claptons a bit closer to the posts. So long as you're getting good vapor and flavor off it then it's a success in my opinion.
I do not use Cotton Bacon. Tried V1 and it tasted like shit. I have used cotton balls (still have pretty much the full bag if you want it) that have been bleached white...had to boil that crap and it still tasted like shit. Japanese Organic cotton has virtually no off taste on the first pull after wicking.
Cotton does NOT all come from the same place (except in your fantasy world) some is in fact grown organically and not bleached. Japanese organic cotton. That is what I use. It is not expensive. America is not the only place cotton is grown. So come on man, quite swiping your girls face cleaning pads and buy some real cotton! No one here is trying to bullshit you. I fucking know that all cotton is not the same. No bullshit.
If it all taste the same to you, ya done some damage to your taste buds somewhere along the line.
Koh Gen Do cotton pads are the best available hands down, KGD all the way. I fucking Love my KGD. They BLOW that geasey cotton bacon shit away, and don't shed a bunch of fibers like the native wicks crap. Much easier to use also, trying to tear off a piece of cotton bacon or native wicks is a JOKE. Good luck getting two pieces even close to same. Anyone who claims to be able to tell the difference in taste between organic japanese cotton and this fancy packaged shit is attempting to BLOW smoke up your ass. If anyone disagrees with this, I would be willing to meet you behind the 7-11 at the corner of 11 mile and Gratiot Blvd right now
Thanks bud! I've been building casually on a couple RDA's (mutation x v4 and a doge 3 clone), but as an ex smoker with s mild case of OCD myself, I could never use an RDA as an all day, out and about device. I feel much more comfortable with a tank full of liquid that won't leak. This brings me to my next point: the avocado and avocado 24 are legit!!! Especially after factoring in the ridiculously affordable price points, my avocado 24 is the best purchase I've made since my first kanger subtank mini.
As for the leads, they bother the hell out of me too, I just don't have a small set of wire cutters so I've been using a pair of nail clippers. Ghetto? Sure, but they get the job done !
So long as it works, who cares if it's ghetto lol. If you have a hardware store nearby or even a supercenter walmart, check the tool aisle for some dykes.
They probably have a cheap pair, a bit more durable than nail clippers and easy to get up next to the post. Something like these maybe, around $5 -
They probably have a cheap pair, a bit more durable than nail clippers and easy to get up next to the post. Something like these maybe, around $5 -
If you don't have a hardware store or walmart close to ya, but do have a craft store or jewelry supply store nearby, they should have some cutters. You can almost always find good, small, side cutters at those places because they're used to cut the wire that's used for stringing necklaces, cutting copper and silver wire, etc. They are usually a little bit higher in price, though, but typically not a whole lot higher.
Flush cut dikes make the job so much easier. Something like these...
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10009316/3825601-authentic-santus-st-109-5-wire-cutters
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10009316/3825601-authentic-santus-st-109-5-wire-cutters
Koh Gen Do cotton pads are the best available hands down, KGD all the way. I fucking Love my KGD. They BLOW that geasey cotton bacon shit away, and don't shed a bunch of fibers like the native wicks crap. Much easier to use also, trying to tear off a piece of cotton bacon or native wicks is a JOKE. Good luck getting two pieces even close to same. Anyone who claims to be able to tell the difference in taste between organic japanese cotton and this fancy packaged shit is attempting to BLOW smoke up your ass. If anyone disagrees with this, I would be willing to meet you behind the 7-11 at the corner of 11 mile and Gratiot Blvd right now
The only time I've tried koh gen do cotton was when a friend lent me a square. As I've said before on this thread, my favorite cotton I'd ever had was the square pads that came with my first RDA, and I'm not sure whether or not that was koh gen do, but it looked and tastes exactly the same, and that's why I had my friend throw me a square piece and loved it. I just bought a bag of cotton balls, though, and honestly it works just as good, maybe better than anything I've tried. Also, as I'm sure most are aware, a pack of 70 cotton balls ran me about 2.50$, which compared to any 'made for vaping' styles of cotton was an absolute steal. Anyways, I plan on picking up a pack of koh gen do and seeing how it works but honestly, if it isn't light years better than cotton balls I'm gonna stick with the highly affordable and accessible cotton balls.
Thanks for all the tips guys!!
Cotton is very much subjective to everyone's individual taste/preference. But is seems like there are those who treat it as some sort of religion, "Mine is bigger and better than yours", "My Cotton is the one true Cotton, every other is false and is of the Devi", etc., etc.l!!!!!
I've tried a number of shit, Cotton Bacon V1 and V2, it's decent. But honestly I heard it was just repackaged Sterilized Medical/Dental Cotton, so I tried that. Yep, same shit. I've had a few people check it out when I was in a couple of B&M's to see if they could tell any difference, they couldn't. So I bought a couple of 1 Lb rolls for around $16 each, since it comes in one giant roll It's fluffier and I like it better than Cotton Bacon.
I then tried Muji, great Cotton and really liked it.
I then tried Koh gen Do and I just fell in love with it. Very easy to use, very little break in, soaks up juice very quick and efficient, large pads and very easy to Scottish Wick, just love it. The price is great, a bag from Amazon is only around $11 for 80 very large pads, this will last an average vaper well over a year.
Still trying more wicking material I tried degummed Hemp fiber with ElfWick, not bad but difficult to use and there are a lot of stems (picking them out is too much a pain in the ass. It has a different taste during break in, not bad though. Once broke it in it works well, advantage with it though is that if you ever get a burn hit that would kill cotton with Hemp fiber you just rejuice, it won't spoil the wick like burning your cotton. Disadvantage with it is that it doesn't wick as well as cotton so you don't want to use it in a tank, only RDA's. But for me why I moved on from it is picking out the stem's is too much a PiA. If anyone would like to try it IM me, I'll send you some just you pay for shipping.
Organic cotton balls, meh, doesn't perform as well as Muji or come even close to Koh gen Do. Plus not as easy to handle as using pad's.
Cheap Cotton that you have to boil, seriously, not worth the time to save a few pennies.
Supmia Cotton, very nice, wicks good, very soft (softest cotton I've ever tried) and it has very long fibers so it wicks well but is expensive.
I then tried Native Wicks Platinum Blend, think of something like Cotton Bacon but based on Supima Cotton. This is my favorite "premium" cotton, but you do pay a premium price. Very easy to wick, really sucks up the juice fast, very little break in, long fibers that have been fluffed up. I get a bag of it once in a while and use it as a change from my Koh gen Do just to mix things up. With the FDA and Government fuckery coming down, I'm thinking of stocking up on a good supply of it. so I'm keeping an eye out for a sale and plan on getting a dozen bags of it for my Vape Apocalypse stash. It really is very, very nice to use.
Silica and Rayon, I really don't have much of a desire to use it. I may one of these days but I just prefer to stick with Cotton or Hemp (if I can find a suitable Hemp fiber).
So my mainstay is Koh gen Do, I just love it.
Anyway that's my opinion on the wicking material I've used, the best advice I have is to check around and try out the different stuff available and use what you like. And those who treat wicking material as a religion, get a clue. Everyone has their own tastes and preferences and one size does not fit all, so get a clue
I've tried a number of shit, Cotton Bacon V1 and V2, it's decent. But honestly I heard it was just repackaged Sterilized Medical/Dental Cotton, so I tried that. Yep, same shit. I've had a few people check it out when I was in a couple of B&M's to see if they could tell any difference, they couldn't. So I bought a couple of 1 Lb rolls for around $16 each, since it comes in one giant roll It's fluffier and I like it better than Cotton Bacon.
I then tried Muji, great Cotton and really liked it.
I then tried Koh gen Do and I just fell in love with it. Very easy to use, very little break in, soaks up juice very quick and efficient, large pads and very easy to Scottish Wick, just love it. The price is great, a bag from Amazon is only around $11 for 80 very large pads, this will last an average vaper well over a year.
Still trying more wicking material I tried degummed Hemp fiber with ElfWick, not bad but difficult to use and there are a lot of stems (picking them out is too much a pain in the ass. It has a different taste during break in, not bad though. Once broke it in it works well, advantage with it though is that if you ever get a burn hit that would kill cotton with Hemp fiber you just rejuice, it won't spoil the wick like burning your cotton. Disadvantage with it is that it doesn't wick as well as cotton so you don't want to use it in a tank, only RDA's. But for me why I moved on from it is picking out the stem's is too much a PiA. If anyone would like to try it IM me, I'll send you some just you pay for shipping.
Organic cotton balls, meh, doesn't perform as well as Muji or come even close to Koh gen Do. Plus not as easy to handle as using pad's.
Cheap Cotton that you have to boil, seriously, not worth the time to save a few pennies.
Supmia Cotton, very nice, wicks good, very soft (softest cotton I've ever tried) and it has very long fibers so it wicks well but is expensive.
I then tried Native Wicks Platinum Blend, think of something like Cotton Bacon but based on Supima Cotton. This is my favorite "premium" cotton, but you do pay a premium price. Very easy to wick, really sucks up the juice fast, very little break in, long fibers that have been fluffed up. I get a bag of it once in a while and use it as a change from my Koh gen Do just to mix things up. With the FDA and Government fuckery coming down, I'm thinking of stocking up on a good supply of it. so I'm keeping an eye out for a sale and plan on getting a dozen bags of it for my Vape Apocalypse stash. It really is very, very nice to use.
Silica and Rayon, I really don't have much of a desire to use it. I may one of these days but I just prefer to stick with Cotton or Hemp (if I can find a suitable Hemp fiber).
So my mainstay is Koh gen Do, I just love it.
Anyway that's my opinion on the wicking material I've used, the best advice I have is to check around and try out the different stuff available and use what you like. And those who treat wicking material as a religion, get a clue. Everyone has their own tastes and preferences and one size does not fit all, so get a clue
tl;dr
Cotton is very much subjective to everyone's individual taste/preference. But is seems like there are those who treat it as some sort of religion, "Mine is bigger and better than yours", "My Cotton is the one true Cotton, every other is false and is of the Devi", etc., etc.l!!!!!
I've tried a number of shit, Cotton Bacon V1 and V2, it's decent. But honestly I heard it was just repackaged Sterilized Medical/Dental Cotton, so I tried that. Yep, same shit. I've had a few people check it out when I was in a couple of B&M's to see if they could tell any difference, they couldn't. So I bought a couple of 1 Lb rolls for around $16 each, since it comes in one giant roll It's fluffier and I like it better than Cotton Bacon.
I then tried Muji, great Cotton and really liked it.
I then tried Koh gen Do and I just fell in love with it. Very easy to use, very little break in, soaks up juice very quick and efficient, large pads and very easy to Scottish Wick, just love it. The price is great, a bag from Amazon is only around $11 for 80 very large pads, this will last an average vaper well over a year.
Still trying more wicking material I tried degummed Hemp fiber with ElfWick, not bad but difficult to use and there are a lot of stems (picking them out is too much a pain in the ass. It has a different taste during break in, not bad though. Once broke it in it works well, advantage with it though is that if you ever get a burn hit that would kill cotton with Hemp fiber you just rejuice, it won't spoil the wick like burning your cotton. Disadvantage with it is that it doesn't wick as well as cotton so you don't want to use it in a tank, only RDA's. But for me why I moved on from it is picking out the stem's is too much a PiA. If anyone would like to try it IM me, I'll send you some just you pay for shipping.
Organic cotton balls, meh, doesn't perform as well as Muji or come even close to Koh gen Do. Plus not as easy to handle as using pad's.
Cheap Cotton that you have to boil, seriously, not worth the time to save a few pennies.
Supmia Cotton, very nice, wicks good, very soft (softest cotton I've ever tried) and it has very long fibers so it wicks well but is expensive.
I then tried Native Wicks Platinum Blend, think of something like Cotton Bacon but based on Supima Cotton. This is my favorite "premium" cotton, but you do pay a premium price. Very easy to wick, really sucks up the juice fast, very little break in, long fibers that have been fluffed up. I get a bag of it once in a while and use it as a change from my Koh gen Do just to mix things up. With the FDA and Government fuckery coming down, I'm thinking of stocking up on a good supply of it. so I'm keeping an eye out for a sale and plan on getting a dozen bags of it for my Vape Apocalypse stash. It really is very, very nice to use.
Silica and Rayon, I really don't have much of a desire to use it. I may one of these days but I just prefer to stick with Cotton or Hemp (if I can find a suitable Hemp fiber).
So my mainstay is Koh gen Do, I just love it.
Anyway that's my opinion on the wicking material I've used, the best advice I have is to check around and try out the different stuff available and use what you like. And those who treat wicking material as a religion, get a clue. Everyone has their own tastes and preferences and one size does not fit all, so get a clue
Thanks for the detailed response sir, I'm not sure if I've ever had ko gen do cotton, but the pads of cotton that have come with some of my devices have looked exactly like ko gen do (at least compared to pictures that I've seen) and I absolutely loved those odds, so I'm going to order some real ko gen do. For now, though, j bought a bag of 70 cotton balls, and they've been treating me right. The only reason I got them rather than waiting to get ko gen do is the fact that I just purchased the avocado 24 , and j needed to try it immediately.
Side note, the avocado is bangin. By far my favorite RTA, or atomizer for that matter, I've ever tried.
You can go here to buy Koh Gen Do if you have one near you. Sephora http://www.sephora.com/pure-cotton-...otton P300602&skuId=1386382&_requestid=433481