Cuboid - New Firmware 3.01 and 3.11

[BatteryConserver]

What’s new in Version 3.01 and 3.11?

The Cuboid has the 150W maximum output wattage and can also be upgraded to 200W.
However, different people have different needs. Thus we developed two versions: V3.01 and V3.11 with 150W and 200W respectively.

Newly Added SMART Mode
This time, we added the new Smart Mode for the Cuboid. The Smart Mode will aromatically save ten groups of output settings. Each resistance contains an output power setting. It can be adjusted and will be saved once you changed the output wattage.
When ten groups of profiles are saved, the first profile will be deleted if a new resistance is added. And it is the same to continue.

Link to Firmware and Description

 

[CorallineAlgae]

Nice. I went ahead and updated to 3.01. This mod doesn't really do 200 watts and I never vape at 100+ watts anyway. The 150w update with the new features is right up my alley. Thanks for posting this BC.

 

[Jim_MDP]

3.01... or 3.11 ?

There's also a 3.10 listed.

 

[Vapomizer]

3.01... or 3.11 ?

There's also a 3.10 listed.

3.00 OLD stock firmware 150W
3.01 NEW 150W Firmware has the new "Smart Mode" and Up/Down Wattage scroll in TC mode
3.10 OLD firmware with a 200W upgrade no smart mode or down scrolling
3.11 NEW 200W Firmware with Smart Mode and Down Scrolling

For max features and max wattage just use 3.11
For new features and only 150W use 3.01

 

[Jim_MDP]

Got it, thanks. Confusing eh?

That's a bigger monkey wrench than the concurrent release of the VTC's 1.20/2.0.

 

[mach1ne]

thanks for the heads up BatteryConserver. anyone tried it yet? everything go smoothly?

 

[Jim_MDP]

It should be solid. The same feature set update for the VTC (3.01) is working fine.

 

[Vapomizer]

Got it, thanks. Confusing eh?

I agree, those companies should get into the practice of posting a fucking "Changelog" with every update they release, detailing what changed/added with the corresponding date of release, and the download file should include a readme.txt of some sort instead of just throwing updated at us and letting us figure out by trial and error what changed and what not!

 

[CorallineAlgae]

The new updates for the VTC Mini and Cuboid are all working great so far. I don't use the smart setting at all, just the normal SS316 and TCR modes. The latest firmware for both the Cuboid and VTC look like the best yet.

Joyetech isn't playing around. If they come out with a light, compact, 2 battery mod with this same screen and a solid 510 they might dominate 2016.

 

[Carmmond]

True but I do like the fact they put the old firmware in so you can change back if you chose to.... not like Apple IOS

 

[Jim_MDP]

Joyetech isn't playing around. If they come out with a light, compact, 2 battery mod with this same screen and a solid 510 they might dominate 2016.

No kidding.
I really had hoped they would go another round with JayBo for a two cell Reuleaux.
Or whatever his idea of a dual enclosure might be. Large screen would be a bonus.

Neither the Cuboid nor the i100TC are doing it for me (though I'll probably get around to ordering the 100TC anyway).

 

[CorallineAlgae]

Agreed. I also appreciate that they put out a 150w version of the new firmware along with the 200w version.

 

[Vapomizer]

The new updates for the VTC Mini and Cuboid are all working great so far. I don't use the smart setting at all, just the normal SS316 and TCR modes. The latest firmware for both the Cuboid and VTC look like the best yet.

Joyetech isn't playing around. If they come out with a light, compact, 2 battery mod with this same screen and a solid 510 they might dominate 2016.

That is exactly what they need to do, make a mod that is really light and ditch that zinc case that makes it unnecessarily heavy, get rid of that bottom battery door and back to old good magnetic cover with a really improved 510 that can take atomizers with protruding positive pin without shorting or being stuck, and a fire button that does not rattle or get stuck, keep the same board, screen and software, that would be a killer device.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

No kidding.
I really had hoped they would go another round with JayBo for a two cell Reuleaux.
Or whatever his idea of a dual enclosure might be. Large screen would be a bonus.

Neither the Cuboid nor the i100TC are doing it for me (though I'll probably get around to ordering the 100TC anyway).

So true. I'm with you on the cuboid. I like mine but it's much heavier than it needs to be. JayBo could probably make a better 2x18650 mod but it will need the beautiful Joyetech screen to really take off. I think PBussardo said that they were having some difficulty getting enough of the screens.

For a dual battery mod I kinda like the Kanger 120w. It's a great mod for people who want an extremely simple, really smooth TC device. It's light, small, and works well but the screen is off putting. It has a heavily curved screen cover that really hurts the viewing angle. The i100TC might be better but I honestly have no idea. Never bought an eleaf mod. Do you know if Kanger or eleaf have put out any updates for their updateable mods?

 

[Jim_MDP]

Don't know much about the Kangers, other than someone here (?) keeps describing his as "weak". But I've never liked the looks of them so I haven't paid attention.

The i100TC of course had the expected update to 120w.
Haven't heard of any other changes or features.
It has an ultra sucky UI quirk for adjusting watts in TC. That's why I don't have one yet.
I'm hoping that can be addressed.

 

[Vapomizer]

Neither the Cuboid nor the i100TC are doing it for me (though I'll probably get around to ordering the 100TC anyway).

You should really try one, having owned and used both the Cuboid and the i100TC i can easily point out 18 design advantages of the iStick TC100W over the Cuboid ... here it goes:

1- No visible screws on the outer case whatsoever, all screws are hidden under the batteries inside the magnetic battery covers.
2- Rock solid clicky and durable fire button i think it is the best fire button in the market right now.
3- Feels much lighter, definitely does not feel like holding a brick like it is the case with the Cuboid, more like holding a mobile phone.
4- Much more ergonomic design and fits great in the hand with its fully rounded edges.
5- Changeable battery covers that take about 60% of its surface area and can be replaced if paint starts coming of off them as well as provide color customization options.
6- Covers attaches with very strong magnets not a plastic lock like the Cuboid.
7- Much better 510 with a wider hex shaped positive pin, tanks that stick out on the cuboid sits flush on the i100TC.
8- Parallel batteries stay 100% balanced during the entire charge and discharge cycles.
9- Instant coil ramp up unlike the Cuboid which has a slight delay.
10- Batteries fit really secure inside their compartments with huge gold plated connectors, no wiggling around and no chance of them arching or poping out by accident.
11- Dedicated menu key for mode change and wattage up/down switch during TC mode, no need for the 3 clicking to enter menu and all the browsing through menu to change wattage, modes, lock/unlock resistance
12- Can be charged safely via USB.
13- Very high build quality
14- The plastic strip over the screen is much smaller than the cuboid which makes it much less of a magnet for smudges and finger prints.
15- USB port at the bottom so your liquid won't easily leak inside it.
16- Physical fire lock switch.
17- Longer battery life using the same batteries and the same wattage setting, the i100TC lasts me a day and a half while the Cuboid with the same exact batteries and settings could not last a full day.
18- No screen protector scratches out of the box at all and no button rattle whatsoever.

There are some more but these are the important ones

 

[Carmmond]

So true. I'm with you on the cuboid. I like mine but it's much heavier than it needs to be. JayBo could probably make a better 2x18650 mod but it will need the beautiful Joyetech screen to really take off. I think PBussardo said that they were having some difficulty getting enough of the screens.

For a dual battery mod I kinda like the Kanger 120w. It's a great mod for people who want an extremely simple, really smooth TC device. It's light, small, and works well but the screen is off putting. It has a heavily curved screen cover that really hurts the viewing angle. The i100TC might be better but I honestly have no idea. Never bought an eleaf mod. Do you know if Kanger or eleaf have put out any updates for their updateable mods?

Eleaf TC100W has had an update already making it a 120W device.... been using it for 3+ weeks and I love it. It lasts me 3 days at 30W and the fire button is a joy!

 

[CorallineAlgae]

Damn. Eleaf is tempting me with this one. The small screen and tall height gives me pause. Still, thanks for all the info guys. Going to give Joyetech and Wismec a little more time to come out with a new mod. If somebody comes out with a small, light, 2x 18650 mod with a big beautiful screen and solid 510 it'll be on.

 

[Jim_MDP]

Didn't you get a Presa too?

Update yet for the Watts Adjust in TC (and Start mode presumably) ?

 

[mach1ne]

nice writeup Vapomizer. i have an istick30 and recently got a cuboid. i liked my istick for being small and pretty solid, but i went with the cuboid when i decided i needed more than 30w because the istick100 felt like a toy in my hand. i could squeeze it and make it creak and groan. ill have a look at the 100tc because the cuboid is a lot heavier than i wanted it to be for carrying at work.

 

[Vapomizer]

Damn. Eleaf is tempting me with this one. The small screen and tall height gives me pause. Still, thanks for all the info guys. Going to give Joyetech and Wismec a little more time to come out with a new mod. If somebody comes out with a small, light, 2x 18650 mod with a big beautiful screen and solid 510 it'll be on.

What tall height? didn't get what you mean

 

[Vapomizer]

nice writeup Vapomizer. i have an istick30 and recently got a cuboid. i liked my istick for being small and pretty solid, but i went with the cuboid when i decided i needed more than 30w because the istick100 felt like a toy in my hand. i could squeeze it and make it creak and groan. ill have a look at the 100tc because the cuboid is a lot heavier than i wanted it to be for carrying at work.

I never considered an eleaf product before and never liked the iStick line, but the TC100W is really different, they have stepped up their game significantly with that device, first time to use Joyetech RX board, first firmware upgradable iStick and they seem to have given this one a lot of thought during design, at the end of the day the new iStick is made by Joyetech/Wismec, same production line, same workers, same board, just different design concept and this one is a winner.

Yes the Cuboid is surprisingly heavy and have an improper weight-to-size ratio, i hated going out with it as well due to its weight and thick design which makes it unpleasant to place in pocket.

 

[Vapomizer]

Didn't you get a Presa too?

Update yet for the Watts Adjust in TC (and Start mode presumably) ?

The iStick will not receive any further wattage upgrades, 120W is the max it can do with its parallel bats setup and eleaf has stated that in more than one occasion, further updates will only improve functionality and usability, so if you vape on more than 120W then this mod is not for you but so are all dual battery mods with the RX chip because all are limited to 25A and can not actually go above 100W for ultra low resistance atomizers that actually need that kind of power!

For practical reasons i consider all Cuboid, iStick, Wismec Vaporflask a 100W devices, all that 150-200W is marketing BS due to the 25A output limit.

as for the wattage adjust with menu+up/down it is not really that bad, once you get the hang of it you can adjust power in TC mode much faster that you would do on a Cuboid/RX200 since it is very easy, fast and instantly accessible, i acknowledge there is room for improvement though but it is not that bad as it is.

 

[Jim_MDP]

What does any of that have to do with me asking Coralline if the Presa got the update as well?

 

[CorallineAlgae]

Didn't you get a Presa too?

Update yet for the Watts Adjust in TC (and Start mode presumably) ?

Good memory man! I sure did. Still use it every day. The 3.00 Presa screen layout is much nicer than the original layout (I like the live PCB board temperature display). Still no 3.01 firmware with up/down watt adjust or Start mode but I'm okay with it. Going from four mods with up-only watt adjustment to one mod is kinda terrific. I'll count it as a win. I'd be surprised if they came out with an update right away. There was a fair lag between the VTC mini TCR update and the Presa TCR update.

What tall height? didn't get what you mean

Right. I was commenting that compared to the Kanger 120 the iStick 100wTC is a little tall in height. Just personal preference. I like really compact mods.
Kbox 120 = 84mm
Cuboid = 91.5mm
iStick 100 = 94mm

 

[Jim_MDP]

I'd be surprised if they came out with an update right away. There was a fair lag between the VTC mini TCR update and the Presa TCR update.

Yeah, even though it's crossing the brand lines... I expect they'll release the Cubis oriented Start mode anyway. The watt adjust is just our bonus.

When is another question altogether (not long actually, I expect).

 

[Vapomizer]

What does any of that have to do with me asking Coralline if the Presa got the update as well?

LOL i was confused for a second didn't know who you were addressing with your post, thought you were referring to future iStick updates by "Update yet for the Watts Adjust in TC (and Start mode presumably)" , never mind, ignore the post, do you want me to delete it?

 

[Vapomizer]

Right. I was commenting that compared to the Kanger 120 the iStick 100wTC is a little tall in height.

oh, i did not realize there was as much as 1cm difference in height between them, but if you put the iStick next to the Cuboid they are almost exactly the same height regardless of the 2.5mm difference on paper. the iStick is thinner and the Cuboid is slimmer but height is exactly the same in practice.

 

[Jim_MDP]

LOL i was confused for a second didn't know who you were addressing with your post, thought you were referring to future iStick updates by "Update yet for the Watts Adjust in TC (and Start mode presumably)" , never mind, ignore the post, do you want me to delete it?

Aw fuck no. Let it hang out there.
I laugh every time you make an "RX chip" or "RX board" reference.

That group that you claim calls them that, I believe you called it "everyone" ... they don't all live in your basement, right?

(I have three HP computers... I shall call them all "Presario". )

 

[Vapomizer]

Aw fuck no. Let it hang out there.
I laugh every time you make an "RX chip" or "RX board" reference.

It is good i can make you laugh, a simple fact, all these devices use the same exact power regulation board with identical functionality and limitations and with same exact software code only slightly tweaked interface/controls for each device, and Joyetech does not even make the board/chip, it is a generic programmable DC power regulator which i can't remember its name on top of my head now. Joyetech sources it from another company, solder stuff on it, customize the code based on a sample firmware file supplied by the manufacturer and throw it into their devices.

HP computers from different lines uses totally different circuit board designs, CPU type, memory etc .. not the case with these devices, same exact circuit board, same exact chip, same exact firmware, same exact functionality and performance, just slightly different controls/display output.

Would it help make you laugh less if i call it Generic Joyetech DC Power Regulator 2015 Edition Board? (GJDPR 2015)

 

[Jim_MDP]

not the case with these devices, same exact circuit board, same exact chip, same exact firmware, same exact functionality and performance, just slightly different controls/display output.

If you evidenced any of that, we'd be halfway there.
However...

Would it help make you laugh less if i call it Generic Joyetech DC Power Regulator 2015 Edition Board? (GJDPR 2015)

What you said was that JTech called it the RX board/chip.
Though you also said JT never released their internal or even official designation.

I can't but suspect that you and some chat buddies called it that.

What you did say, and I closely paraphrase, was...
"everyone on the net is calling it the RX chip".

I told you, I've read thousands of posts on this mod family, no doubt you've read many hundreds if not thousands as well, and you are the first, the only, still the sole person I've seen call it that.

Despite that the VTC debuted first (I believe) and that the VTC repeatedly has features released for it first.

I told you... I will not call my VTC, as you say... "one of the RX mods".

You might put your case to, and then poll Cuboid, Presa, and potentially i100TC owners.

Now if you want to consider the nomenclature... "VTC boards"...

 

[OpoRoot]

I was hoping that they would have bumped up the screen brightness with this update,
o well maybe next update will have it or is it just wish-lees hope of mine ?

 

[tljenson]

Where did Fahrenheit go to I'm just getting Celius?

 

[OpoRoot]

@tljenson go to the low or hi setting of C release the button than click it again to switch to Fahrenheit

 

[tljenson]

Got it thanks so much, I was freaking out.

 

[OpoRoot]

no worries glad to help, keep calm and vape on

 

[Vapomizer]

If you evidenced any of that, we'd be halfway there.
However...



What you said was that JTech called it the RX board/chip.
Though you also said JT never released their internal or even official designation.

I can't but suspect that you and some chat buddies called it that.

What you did say, and I closely paraphrase, was...
"everyone on the net is calling it the RX chip".

I told you, I've read thousands of posts on this mod family, no doubt you've read many hundreds if not thousands as well, and you are the first, the only, still the sole person I've seen call it that.

Despite that the VTC debuted first (I believe) and that the VTC repeatedly has features released for it first.

I told you... I will not call my VTC, as you say... "one of the RX mods".

You might put your case to, and then poll Cuboid, Presa, and potentially i100TC owners.

Now if you want to consider the nomenclature... "VTC boards"...

Dude, in all seriousness, why are you so caught up in the details of the naming? where i got it from, how did i come up with it, was it in a chat with friends, polling how many other vapers call it this or that, really heck with the naming, i have a brain and can think for myself and figure out what things are and what to call them without any external help

The matter of the fact is, and being an IT professional, i speak from a professional specialization standpoint, the power regulator in all these mods is exactly the same, without going into much details i will just mention that i decompiled the firmware for all these devices and it is exactly the same, based on the same sample code from the manufacturer has the same functions, code structure and uses the same programming language, among plenty other things that makes me 100% sure that all these devices share the same exact power regulation circuit.

Now you can call it what you like, but i will continue to call it the RX board because this is the shortest most understandable name for it and the one with the right assumptions and implications, despite what 1000 other less tech savvy vapers might call it, i really don't care.

Yet, feel free to laugh all you want when you catch me calling it that

 

[tljenson]

I never considered an eleaf product before and never liked the iStick line, but the TC100W is really different, they have stepped up their game significantly with that device, first time to use Joyetech RX board, first firmware upgradable iStick and they seem to have given this one a lot of thought during design, at the end of the day the new iStick is made by Joyetech/Wismec, same production line, same workers, same board, just different design concept and this one is a winner.

Yes the Cuboid is surprisingly heavy and have an improper weight-to-size ratio, i hated going out with it as well due to its weight and thick design which makes it unpleasant to place in pocket.

You've convinced me, I've been eying it for awhile now. What do you mainly use on it what kind of tank, RTA, or RDA? What's your go to atomizer?

 

[Vapomizer]

You've convinced me, I've been eying it for awhile now. What do you mainly use on it what kind of tank, RTA, or RDA? What's your go to atomizer?

Been using it exclusively with the Griffin RTA, SS316L build, SS TC mode with a full 120W power for instant punch/ramp up, works like a dream.

Just make sure to gently screw the positive adjustable pin of the tank all the way in so that it does not stick out at all and then the tank would sit perfectly flush and makes a rock solid connection without damaging the 510 of the mod, if you use a tank with a protruding positive pin it will not sit flush and you risk damaging the 510 and voiding your warranty if you force it, same goes with the Cuboid and RX200.

 

[yasaboss]

3.00 OLD stock firmware 150W
3.01 NEW 150W Firmware has the new "Smart Mode" and Up/Down Wattage scroll in TC mode
3.10 OLD firmware with a 200W upgrade no smart mode or down scrolling
3.11 NEW 200W Firmware with Smart Mode and Down Scrolling

For max features and max wattage just use 3.11
For new features and only 150W use 3.01

You can down scroll on the 3.10

 

[Vapomizer]

You can down scroll on the 3.10

I no longer have the Cuboid but i am pretty sure that on v3.10 you could not dial wattage down when in TC mode, you had to scroll all the way up to 200W and then round robin to 1W and keep going up.

 

[greasegizzard]

I haven't really been interested in a Cuboid, but this new Smart Mode looks interesting. I change tanks and flavors often. I've been waiting to buy an X Cube II, but I may pick up a Cuboid instead...

 

[BatteryConserver]

Have to admit I don't understand what this smart mode is and how it works

 

[greasegizzard]

The way I read it, let's say you're using a .35 ohm coil in wattage mode. You put on a different build that is .5 ohms and change your watts accordingly. When you put your .35 ohm build back on, it will go back to what you had your watts set at for it. It will remember up to 10 different settings, always the most recent 10.

Maybe someone that has one can clarify if I'm mistaken...

 

[BatteryConserver]

Thats would be cool

 

[greasegizzard]

The biggest complaint I've seen with it is the screen doesn't show your settings, just a generic display you can see here.

 

[mach1ne]

smart mode does show the wattage in place of the battery bars when you are changing it. its much faster to scroll through than the regular power mode menu too. as soon as you let go of the up/down buttons it goes back to showing batteries.

 

[greasegizzard]

smart mode does show the wattage in place of the battery bars when you are changing it. its much faster to scroll through than the regular power mode menu too. as soon as you let go of the up/down buttons it goes back to showing batteries.

Does it at least show it for a brief time after switching to a different build? If not, I think it should. I would say, just show it on the screen all the time, like normal. I don't see myself going from a .25 ohm build then to a .75 ohm build on and just blind firing hoping it is on the right setting...

 

[mach1ne]

nope it seems to just silently adjust it to whatever you last had it set to with whatever you had at that resistance. im not sure how much i love that either, but it hasnt been wrong yet...

 

[yasaboss]

I no longer have the Cuboid but i am pretty sure that on v3.10 you could not dial wattage down when in TC mode, you had to scroll all the way up to 200W and then round robin to 1W and keep going up.

I have it in my hands it works now at 3.10, updated it a week ago