Disappointed in my new Uwell Crown

[Brushy Bill]

Only been vaping about 9 weeks. Using severely damaged lungs with COPD.
All my vape liquids are 80% VG as the
damage I have done to my lungs cannot
handle more PG.

Currently using two 20 watt Istick with
a Nautilus tank on one and an aspire mini
on the other. Both now have the Triton mini Clapton coils in them.

Also using a VTC mini with a kanger subtank
mini running the .5 ohm coil at between 45-55 watts. This is my main vape. The Isticks are for taking hits of other flavors here and there through out the day.
Other than these, the only tank I have used is the Tron tank that came on the VTC mini.
When it worked good, it was great. It spit some very hot liquid into the back of my mouth/throat once and I decided I would not give it another chance to do that again and it was passed on to another potential victim.

On to the Crown.
Being a 40 year Journeyman Tool & Die maker, the fit and finish on this tank and it's
parts are flawless. It looked like what we call
in the trade, "Like Jewelry".

I put it on a new VTC mini. Loaded the .5 ohm
coil after wetting it down and let it sit for about 30 minutes drawing on it a few times without firing it.

Started at 35 watts. The coil left a definite
stainless aftertaste. Reminiscent of TIG
welding stainless steel.

The vape was blah, nothing to be excited about. After hitting it 30-40 times, bumped
it up to 45 watts. The flavor came through
a little better. I hit it like that until about half
the tank was gone.

Bumped it up to 55 watts and again, the flavor was better, but the vapor produced was
lackluster.

By the time the tank needed refilled the aftertaste was still there, and I was just not
happy with the experience compared to my
subtank mini.

I installed the .25ohm coil and let it sit as before. It too gave a stainless taste, but not
as severe. The cloud production was better.
I was thinking, this might work.
I used this in wattage mode anywhere from
35-75 watts. Anything over 60 watts was just
too hot for my lungs.

Using this today at 55 watts, it is getting better. Still not up to the quality of flavor
and cloud I am getting from my subtank
mini.
The VTC Mini did allow me to put this
coil in temp mode. It showed 75 watts
running it at 400°f. I really saw no difference
in the experience than in wattage mode and 55 watts.

I am considering trying a .15ohm nickle coil
I am sure the aftertaste will go away.
I do have concerns of whether my 75 watt
mod will be enough to make use of it.

From what I have seen, I will more than
likely stay with the subtank mini's.

Most of my displeasure may be due to
the fact that I have a very limited lung
capacity. This, and my limit of 75 watts, may be causing me to be unable to work this tank as hard as it should be.

It is a fine piece of work, top shelf appearance.
Just not what I can enjoy right now.

Thanks, and thanks for being part of
a great resource here at Vaping Underground.

Vape ON!!! Onward Through the Fog!!!!!!!

 

[Markw4mms]

I don't own a Crown but have heard many say it takes 2-3 tanks for the coils to break in and really taste good.

 

[Brushy Bill]

I don't own a Crown but have heard many say it takes 2-3 tanks for the coils to break in and really taste good.

Thanks, it's not eating anything. I can keep
running this .25 coil and see how it goes.
Edited: changed .5 coil, it should have said
.25

 

[Markw4mms]

There are a lot of Crown owners here, and I'm sure some will chime in with their suggestions/opinions.

 

[ChrisL]

Hi Bill. I use the nickel coils in my Crown, and the flavor is fantastic. I use a different mod, but I run my Crown at 520 F.
The premade SS coils are hit or miss, imho. When they work, they are awesome. If your Subtank Mini is working for 'ya, then that's great. As long as your not smoking...

 

[Vapin4Joy]

In my opinion the strange flavor that you experienced is from the cotton in the Crown coils, it goes away. I own two Crown's, I primarily use the .15NI coil 75% of the time followed by the .25. Either coil needs a low and slow break-in for me about 1 week, then the flavor is over the top. I fire the .25 at 60-65W, the ni200 at 510F and 55W or 45J depending which mod I use. Give them time, one of the best tanks on the market.

 

[Brushy Bill]

In my opinion the strange flavor that you experienced is from the cotton in the Crown coils, it goes away. I own two Crown's, I primarily use the .15NI coil 75% of the time followed by the .25. Either coil needs a low and slow break-in for me about 1 week, then the flavor is over the top. I fire the .25 at 60-65W, the ni200 at 510F and 55W or 45J depending which mod I use. Give them time, one of the best tanks on the market.

Thanks for the input. It is good to hear what you are running those coils at.
Those numbers are well within the capabilities of my VTC mini.

I will give it a while to settle in.
I will make it a point to use it for a period
of time each day.
May just pick up a single ni coil
and give it a good honest trial.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

 

[skt239]

I've owned a few crown tanks and only currently have one that I use for ni200 vaping. I am a bit leary of using nickel but the vape from the crowns ni200 is really nice compared to others I have. As for the other coils, I've never had very good luck with them. No matter how tedious my break in was, they wouldn't last and before long I'd be getting dry hits. It was not every coil and when they worked well, it was amazing flavor and vapor. Like others said the break in period can be long but if your coils are working well it's worth the wait.

 

[Bearsteam]

Crown needs to be caressed!!! It's not for the immediate satisfaction vapor. Trust me I've burned through a lot of coils, talked to a lot of people, and finally found my answer in the forums. It's an awesome flavor chaser, but you need to be patient with breaking in the coils. I'm going on my third week with the .25 and flavor is robust. I've found my sweet spot at 50w and 460* for the juices I'm vaping. A trick I've also learned is to unscrew the top a quarter turn after filling. It helps with the vacuum pressure in the tank and helps saturate the coil without flooding it.


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[chopdoc]

The Crown is an awesome tank. I normally only run the .2 ohm coils at 70 to 80 watts and it always delivers a rich flavor.

 

[Deucesjack]

I run both SS coils at 60-70w and 450-500f in TC mode. Flavor and Vapor production is great. I run the Ni200 coils a little hotter. I keep them at 80-90w and 475-525f. When I start with a new coil I knock down my watts by about 25w and my temp by about 50f. I wait till I feel the flavor starting to come through and then I crank her up. That happens after a half a tank or so. I've been getting a minimum of 2-3 weeks out of a coil sometimes much longer. Just a quick tip on the STM. Try the Atom Clapton coils on it, they last forever and vape beautifully. They improve the STM experience greatly.

 

[Ben-Rod]

Dueces, could you please give a link to the coils you mention...

To the OP. You have a great tank and your vtc mini will be just fine for it. As with most of the guys here, I run the ni200 coils mainly because I love temp control. Back when I first got my Crown there weren't many mods that would do temp control with ss, so I bought several packs of the ni200's. Keep at it and get it dialed in the way you like and you'll grow to love this tank more than anything you have...

 

[Deucesjack]

Dueces, could you please give a link to the coils you mention...

To the OP. You have a great tank and your vtc mini will be just fine for it. As with most of the guys here, I run the ni200 coils mainly because I love temp control. Back when I first got my Crown there weren't many mods that would do temp control with ss, so I bought several packs of the ni200's. Keep at it and get it dialed in the way you like and you'll grow to love this tank more than anything you have...

Here you go. http://www.ecig.com/clapton-24k-coils-4-pack.html

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[Ben-Rod]

I see you where talkin about the sub tank mini. Yes I agree the Atom Clapton did wake that little tank up for sure...

I thought for a second there you where saying that they came out with something for the Crown...lol

 

[Deucesjack]

I see you where talkin about the sub tank mini. Yes I agree the Atom Clapton did wake that little tank up for sure...

Definitely, flavor and clouds are noticeably better. They are a little more expensive but they last way longer than the standard coils.

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[Ben-Rod]

As many Crown tanks that are out there, they should make a Clapton for it...

 

[Nancy_Bout]

The crown wait till 2nd tank even 3rd and onwards the coil is wet and beautiful
Yes I'm aware of the new taste of new coils... It don't bother me THAT much I get past it and Vape on my other tanks than go back and so forth
It's my favorite along w two others
Herkales
Arctic


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[DED420]

I guess I've been getting lucky, but none of my coils have had a break in time, after maybe 5-6 pulls, metallic taste is gone and flavor is coming through like a train. I've used the Ni200, and both SS coils, and they all work great, although I prefer the SS coils myself.
For Ni200 coils (0.15), I run them at 500f-525f at 30W-35W
For SS coils (both 0.25 and 0.5), I run them at 550f at 40W
Maybe running them in Power modes will affect their break-in times, but I have yet to run into a dud coil, a burnt coil, or a slow break in period. I run every coil at these full setting right from the start, and everything has just worked out beautifully for me.

I hate hearing these stories of people not enjoying their tanks, it saddens me to know that people aren't able to enjoy it. It's my favorite tank ATM, and I wish everyone could enjoy it as much as I do. I hope it all works out for everyone!

 

[smacksy]

I guess I've been getting lucky, but none of my coils have had a break in time, after maybe 5-6 pulls, metallic taste is gone and flavor is coming through like a train. I've used the Ni200, and both SS coils, and they all work great, although I prefer the SS coils myself.
For Ni200 coils (0.15), I run them at 500f-525f at 30W-35W
For SS coils (both 0.25 and 0.5), I run them at 550f at 40W
Maybe running them in Power modes will affect their break-in times, but I have yet to run into a dud coil, a burnt coil, or a slow break in period. I run every coil at these full setting right from the start, and everything has just worked out beautifully for me.

I hate hearing these stories of people not enjoying their tanks, it saddens me to know that people aren't able to enjoy it. It's my favorite tank ATM, and I wish everyone could enjoy it as much as I do. I hope it all works out for everyone!

It used to be my favorite along with the TFV4 until I got a couple Griffin RTA's...still have the Crown but it sits on the shelf for now..the Griffin blows it away...lol

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[DED420]

It used to be my favorite along with the TFV4 until I got a couple Griffin RTA's...still have the Crown but it sits on the shelf for now..the Griffin blows it away...lol

Well, yeah, the Griffin is in a league of it's own. I keep just barely missing the opportunity to get one, they always just sell out before I show up. Last weekend, the guy 2 spots ahead of me in line grabbed the last Griffin, made me so damn mad , so I said fuck it and grabbed an Avocado while I wait lol. They always sell out the same day they arrive, none of the B&Ms stock enough of them at any given time. If I had known I was gonna have such a hard time getting my hands on one, I'd have ordered a couple online instead, but I'm far to impatient to wait for China mail, and the US exchange is absurd right now. Next week they should be in stock again, and I put a hold on a Black one, so soon enough I'll have my precious

 

[smacksy]

Well, yeah, the Griffin is in a league of it's own. I keep just barely missing the opportunity to get one, they always just sell out before I show up. Last weekend, the guy 2 spots ahead of me in line grabbed the last Griffin, made me so damn mad , so I said fuck it and grabbed an Avocado while I wait lol. They always sell out the same day they arrive, none of the B&Ms stock enough of them at any given time. If I had known I was gonna have such a hard time getting my hands on one, I'd have ordered a couple online instead, but I'm far to impatient to wait for China mail, and the US exchange is absurd right now. Next week they should be in stock again, and I put a hold on a Black one, so soon enough I'll have my precious

Who says you gotta order from China?? Lol
Seriously, I ordered my black Griffin from Eciggity, and the stainless version from VapeNW.. for like $26..got down here in San Diego under 3 days USPS... Might check both sites as they may still have them in stock..

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[DED420]

Who says you gotta order from China?? Lol
Seriously, I ordered my black Griffin from Eciggity, and the stainless version from VapeNW.. for like $26..got down here in San Diego under 3 days USPS... Might check both sites as they may still have them in stock..

Yeah, I'm in Canada, so shipping over the border is a bitch, and the currency exchange is absurd right now . it'll cost me $35 here from a B&M (I have a Black one on hold whenever their next shipment comes in, my buddy works there so he'll put one aside for me). The shipping costs and exchange would cost more to order from the States. I just need to get my Passport and take a trip over the border and just splurge on all the goodies I want, have a shopping spree weekend lol

 

[Tumbleweed]

I get the taste of the cotton on mine until I'm almost all the way through the first tank on a new coil, & that's after priming it & letting it sit 15-20 minutes. I also have to close off the air & suck juice into the cotton several times. This setup can be fussy to get going, but I love it. I'm also NOT getting 3 weeks out of coils, though like I've seen some report. Ten days is a good one for me, using max VG at 45 watts.

 

[ayersbj]

I really like my crown. Had it for a month now and still on the same coil. I did the break in like evryone does might just be lucky with this coil but Cotton taste went away after half a tank. Love the ni200 temp control. Im not into hot vapes so 390 degrees was perfect for me. I also use max vg as well. anything under 75 percent vg to me gets harsh on my throat. I also vape like four different flavors at a time so I have four tanks filled and keep just hitting what I want for the moment. To me just cant vape one flavor all day.

 

[Brushy Bill]

I picked up a single ni coil today and loaded it up. First impressions are I do like
it better than the stainless.
Will just give it some time. Will try and hit
it more over this coming weekend than the others just to get some time built up on it.
If I don't switch up flavors, the one I am using just stops tasting.
I appreciate reading everyone's comments.

 

[ayersbj]

I picked up a single ni coil today and loaded it up. First impressions are I do like
it better than the stainless.
Will just give it some time. Will try and hit
it more over this coming weekend than the others just to get some time built up on it.
If I don't switch up flavors, the one I am using just stops tasting.
I appreciate reading everyone's comments.

Sounds like vapors tongue. when you loose taste to certain flavor. Hadn't had it happen to me. But I don't vape a single flavor either usually have three or four different tanks with me and vape on all of them .

 

[Tumbleweed]

I picked up a single ni coil today and loaded it up. First impressions are I do like
it better than the stainless.
Will just give it some time. Will try and hit
it more over this coming weekend than the others just to get some time built up on it.
If I don't switch up flavors, the one I am using just stops tasting.
I appreciate reading everyone's comments.

Glad to hear it may work out for you yet.
I usually will vape all day a flavor (2-3 tanks). After that (usually the next day, but sometimes sooner) I'll take it all apart, clean everything, fluff the cotton in my coil (with a small safety pin) & start up another flavor. It took me a while to find my groove with this tank.

 

[Ben-Rod]

When I change flavors, I vape in down to where when you turn the tank upside down there's nothing left. Then I just refill with new flavor, put a couple drips directly on down to the coil. All it takes then is a couple pulls and the new flavor comes through like a champ...Easy Pesy...

 

[Brushy Bill]

When I change flavors, I vape in down to where when you turn the tank upside down there's nothing left. Then I just refill with new flavor, put a couple drips directly on down to the coil. All it takes then is a couple pulls and the new flavor comes through like a champ...Easy Pesy...[/

I am not sure who you are replying to.
I seldom have to "mix" flavors. With 4 tanks and mods, I too can switch flavors easy peasy.
I would never run a tank as low as you describe, being it is yours, have at it.

The few times where I have changed flavors on the same coil, I take the coil
out. Close off the bottom air intake holes
and blow into the top of the coil.
The liquid comes out the holes on the side
of the coil. Wipe it down, and repeat.
Apply new liquid and install coil.

 

[Deucesjack]

When I change flavors, I vape in down to where when you turn the tank upside down there's nothing left. Then I just refill with new flavor, put a couple drips directly on down to the coil. All it takes then is a couple pulls and the new flavor comes through like a champ...Easy Pesy...

I have 4 Crown's and I do the same if I'm switching flavors. That's another advantage of the Crown. The juice ports sit real low in the tank so you can basically vape it empty and just go ahead and top fill that baby.

 

[Brushy Bill]

Wow, I don't get it. This thread has nothing to do with "switching flavors", it never did.

It was simply about not being as happy with this Crown tank as I am my kanger subtank mini. After all the rave reviews
on the Crown.

I fired up another brand new out of the box subtank mini today.
No funky taste from the coil, or the cotton as someone said it comes from even though both companies supposedly uses the same cotton in their coils.

Started out at 30 watts, by the time the tank was to the point where I refill. It was
at 55 watts. Hitting as smooth as the 2 week old coil in my other subtank mini.
Not much of a break in compared to what
most are telling me that the Crown require.

 

[steamer861]

I use the RBA section on my Crown I build it with NI200 @.16ish on Japanese Cotton, have to say the flavour is way better than any Subtank I have ever used.
Don't get me wrong, I think a Subtank is pretty good, built the same the Crown produces way better flavour for me

 

[Ben-Rod]

Hey Brushy Bill, I was replying to Tumbleweed's (nice handle by the way) comment on how and what he does when he changes flavors. Sorry to get your thread off topic. I was just passing along info after using the Crown tank for over 7 months.

 

[VapeVillian]

I'm one of the few Crown owners who thinks everyone else is crazy. I bought into the Crown hype and almost went back to cigarettes because of it. Out of the 32 tanks/rta's/rda's I own, I would rank it as 2nd to last, with my Protank 2 beating it for last place.

Many posters have thrown up some great suggestions and i hope they're able to help you out. I just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

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[Brushy Bill]

I'm one of the few Crown owners who thinks everyone else is crazy. I bought into the Crown hype and almost went back to cigarettes because of it. Out of the 32 tanks/rta's/rda's I own, I would rank it as 2nd to last, with my Protank 2 beating it for last place.

Many posters have thrown up some great suggestions and i hope they're able to help you out. I just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

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Good to know, thanks.
I have cleaned the Crown up and it is back in the box it came in.
I am sure I will run across someone who loves them and I will make them
a great deal on it and a box of coils.

Time to do what a long time vaper at the local vape shop told me.
"Find something that works for you and stick with it, Every week they come
out with new tanks, and mods, they all just make vapor"

The kanger tanks are working well for me. Time to stop looking/shopping and enjoy the vape.

 

[darkangel07760]

Thinking about buying a crown, but I usually dont use temp control. If i were to get . 5 coils, what type of metal shoulsd i use? Sounds like its a bit finicky, so some suggestions would help, thanks!

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[Deucesjack]

Thinking about buying a crown, but I usually dont use temp control. If i were to get . 5 coils, what type of metal shoulsd i use? Sounds like its a bit finicky, so some suggestions would help, thanks!

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The Crowns regular coils are SS and work great in tc or wattage mode.

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[darkangel07760]

The Crowns regular coils are SS and work great in tc or wattage mode.

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thank you

 

[Lost]

Mrs. Lost is using a Crown with the RBA. Her IPV D3 supports Ti, so I'm using the same coils/cotton I put in her Nebox RBA.
26 gauge, 3mm, 5 wrap, .27 ohm

Flavor in the Nebox is spot on right away.* She's getting very little flavor in the Crown, but I'm figuring some of that is due to her watt/temp settings. When it comes to a theoretical break-in period, I hope at least some of you can understand why buying into that logic is a little tough, especially since her Nebox has turned this into a controlled experiment.

From a DIY'er standpoint, the Crown appears to be really fussy. The first time she gave it back to me for a new coil, every single threading was stuck. Took me a half hour to get it apart without damaging it. The threads are really nice, but the tank design doesn't lend itself well to unscrewing parts of it.

On the second coil change, the glass broke. More doctoring. Took care of the sticking issues with a little juice on the gaskets... it's like butter now. So things are getting better. I actually have a second Crown/RBA on the way, so she can have a clean setup ready to fill.

[*I'm not pimping the Nebox. I hate the design and hate Kanger. But the thing vapes like a champ.]

 

[pete777]

I really like the taste out of the uwell crown. had the herakles (http://www.vape-reviews.net/sense-herakles-plus-sub-ohm-tank-review/) before but have to say taste-wise so far uwell is better!

 

[Chinamatic]

The crown tank was like that abusive boyfriend whom you cannot muster the courage to leave. Although at times it can get rough, with the venomous ruination and domestic disturbance episodes, I know he really loves me and I know he has a good side.

I have since went to the Griffin and haven't looked back.


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