Do we REALLY need to be adjusting by tenths of a watt?

[The Vape Crusader]

High resistance vaping... that's the one situation I can understand.

But if you're vaping at above, say, 15 watts, what has been the point in all these chips that adjust by tenths? I used to think it was cool when I started vaping, now I just consider it a hassle. Give me two identical builds on identical mods, one is set to 56.7 watts, and the other 56.9 watts... is anyone going to be able to discern the difference? Some even do temp control by the single degree (IPV comes to mind). I mean come on...

These thoughts sprung from my new SMY 170 TC. It goes one full watt at a time, and it turns out that I like it! Easier to set to the wattage you actually want.

Look, prove me wrong here. I don't know everything, that's for sure. It is necessary, or is all aesthetics?

 

[gakudzu]

I run my Aliens in Memory Mode, starting @40w, increasing by 5w increments. So much easier this way.

 

[KingPin!]

Might use .5 sometimes more because I clicked the button incorrectly ...but na don't see it really

Ideally should be a setting to allow user to select either by whole (W) or 1/10 (W) increments

 

[conanthewarrior]

I do guess that nobody would be able to tell the difference of say 70.4W vs 70.6W, and if they say they can I would try a blind test of this.

I do like being able to adjust by the 0.5W though, as I often vape at say 37.5W, for when 35W is not enough but 40W is a little too much. I prefer this to 37 or 38W as it is dead in between lol.

I do think there should be the possibility to adjust in small increments though, as there is still a lot of vapers that vape at lower wattages, and like you say it is understandable in that situation.

 

[HondaDavidson]

I use Arctic Fox firmware on my Pico.... it is selectable for 1 watt or .1 watts increments....

Being one of those 30 watts or less vapers I prefer the 1 watt increments when setting up a new coil. Then switch over to .1 for fine tuning the vape.

A 10th or 2 of a watt may make no difference re clouds..... but It can make all the difference with flavor.

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[Mebejedi]

So, how difficult is it to hack my Alien firmware to change the adjustment scale?

 

[The Cromwell]

High resistance vaping... that's the one situation I can understand.

But if you're vaping at above, say, 15 watts, what has been the point in all these chips that adjust by tenths? I used to think it was cool when I started vaping, now I just consider it a hassle. Give me two identical builds on identical mods, one is set to 56.7 watts, and the other 56.9 watts... is anyone going to be able to discern the difference? Some even do temp control by the single degree (IPV comes to mind). I mean come on...

These thoughts sprung from my new SMY 170 TC. It goes one full watt at a time, and it turns out that I like it! Easier to set to the wattage you actually want.

Look, prove me wrong here. I don't know everything, that's for sure. It is necessary, or is all aesthetics?

Imho mods should adjust by tenths until you get to maybe 30 watts and then go to 1 watt increments. It is all just the software.

 

[UncleRJ]

I normally adjust in .5 watt increments

 

[nightshard]

For low wattage maybe, for high wattage nope.

 

[skt239]

I'd rather everything be in one watt increments. That's the beauty of a DNA..

 

[gpjoe]

Nah. I have my DNA 200 set to 1W increments. All mods should give the user the option, IMO.

 

[SirRichardRear]

High resistance vaping... that's the one situation I can understand.

But if you're vaping at above, say, 15 watts, what has been the point in all these chips that adjust by tenths? I used to think it was cool when I started vaping, now I just consider it a hassle. Give me two identical builds on identical mods, one is set to 56.7 watts, and the other 56.9 watts... is anyone going to be able to discern the difference? Some even do temp control by the single degree (IPV comes to mind). I mean come on...

These thoughts sprung from my new SMY 170 TC. It goes one full watt at a time, and it turns out that I like it! Easier to set to the wattage you actually want.

Look, prove me wrong here. I don't know everything, that's for sure. It is necessary, or is all aesthetics?

no we don't. and personally i hate it. it should be half a watt up to 50 watts then a full watt after that

 

[The Cromwell]

But what if your ideal vape is at 12.7 watts?

.1 watt makes a difference with the low wattage MTL vpaing.

 

[SirRichardRear]

But what if your ideal vape is at 12.7 watts?

.1 watt makes a difference with the low wattage MTL vpaing.

then maybe under 20 watts use .1
20-50 use .5
over 50 use 1

 

[The Cromwell]

then maybe under 20 watts use .1
20-50 use .5
over 50 use 1

That is quite reasonable.

 

[232323]

it's a pain in the arse. if i go to 40.1 watts by accident, then i need to scroll back to 40.0. well i don't really but you get what i mean right?

 

[Mebejedi]

But what if your ideal vape is at 12.7 watts?

.1 watt makes a difference with the low wattage MTL vpaing.

I'll bet I could secretly take your mod, boost it a tenth of a watt, and you'd go all day without noticing it.

 

[AndriaD]

High resistance vaping... that's the one situation I can understand.

But if you're vaping at above, say, 15 watts, what has been the point in all these chips that adjust by tenths? I used to think it was cool when I started vaping, now I just consider it a hassle. Give me two identical builds on identical mods, one is set to 56.7 watts, and the other 56.9 watts... is anyone going to be able to discern the difference? Some even do temp control by the single degree (IPV comes to mind). I mean come on...

These thoughts sprung from my new SMY 170 TC. It goes one full watt at a time, and it turns out that I like it! Easier to set to the wattage you actually want.

Look, prove me wrong here. I don't know everything, that's for sure. It is necessary, or is all aesthetics?

It's probably not very useful when vaping at high wattage -- 60w and 60.1w are probably much the same. It's really only useful when vaping at lower wattage, as I do, but even at 9.5-10 watts, I have a hard time detecting a .1w difference; I usually adjust by .2w, from 9.4-9.8, rarely all the way to 10, but now and then.

I don't know if other iPV mods (other than iPV Minis) have the "memory settings" feature, but I find it very useful, to go thru 5 settings that I may occasionally use, rather than having to always go up or down by .1w. My Innokin mods only adjust by .5w, which I don't prefer, but I do occasionally use them.

Andria

 

[The Cromwell]

I'll bet I could secretly take your mod, boost it a tenth of a watt, and you'd go all day without noticing it.

Probably not but a .2-.3 I would notice for sure.
I no longer vape low wattage...urrm maybe I do I vape 20-30w. At that wattage I can live with 1 watt increments.

I think I see the issue though...
Perhaps mods should jump 5-10 watts per increment at 100 watt and above?

 

[The Vape Crusader]

I do guess that nobody would be able to tell the difference of say 70.4W vs 70.6W, and if they say they can I would try a blind test of this.

I do like being able to adjust by the 0.5W though, as I often vape at say 37.5W, for when 35W is not enough but 40W is a little too much. I prefer this to 37 or 38W as it is dead in between lol.

I do think there should be the possibility to adjust in small increments though, as there is still a lot of vapers that vape at lower wattages, and like you say it is understandable in that situation.

This was my favorite response.

Indeed, I too will find myself at something like 57.5 watts, if 55 is too little and 60 is too much.

And more information to share:

Just got a Tesla Nano in the vape mail (thank you trading post, this will be vaped forward at some point). It adjusts by 0.5 watts, from 7 to 100. I think that's a happy medium... Half a watt should be fine for most anyone.

 

[conanthewarrior]

This was my favorite response.

Indeed, I too will find myself at something like 57.5 watts, if 55 is too little and 60 is too much.

And more information to share:

Just got a Tesla Nano in the vape mail (thank you trading post, this will be vaped forward at some point). It adjusts by 0.5 watts, from 7 to 100. I think that's a happy medium... Half a watt should be fine for most anyone.

I agree that half a watt is good for most people, especially people like you say who vape over very low wattage settings. There will be a few that benefit from 0.2, or maybe even the 0.1 at say 9-14W, but even then it is a very small amount and I personally do't remember noticing a difference when I started with a Nautilus mini of 0.1W.

Nice on the Tesla Nano , I have one of the 60W TC models, it is a very nice mod indeed. It was actually what got me into using smaller, stealthier mods instead of bigger boxes.

Have you tried the TC on it, or using it in power mode?

I will have to use that soon actually, having a lot of mods seems cool, but when you have more than enough for one for each day of the month, a lot end up going unused for quite a long time .

 

[The Vape Crusader]

I agree that half a watt is good for most people, especially people like you say who vape over very low wattage settings. There will be a few that benefit from 0.2, or maybe even the 0.1 at say 9-14W, but even then it is a very small amount and I personally do't remember noticing a difference when I started with a Nautilus mini of 0.1W.

Nice on the Tesla Nano , I have one of the 60W TC models, it is a very nice mod indeed. It was actually what got me into using smaller, stealthier mods instead of bigger boxes.

Have you tried the TC on it, or using it in power mode?

I will have to use that soon actually, having a lot of mods seems cool, but when you have more than enough for one for each day of the month, a lot end up going unused for quite a long time .

Hehe... well my vape forward plan is to buy at the trading post at reasonable prices, and sell it to someone in need locally for the same. I'll probably sell that Nano for $15, and the SMOK XCube II that came with it for $25, since it needs a good pair of 18650s.

Nano is IMPRESSIVE for what it is. 4500mAh integrated, 100w? Sounds good to me. Been using it in TC (I mostly vape TC) and it's very nice. Adjusting the TC is much weirder than any mod i've ever owned, but that's not a dealbreaker.

In fact, I may keep this and sell my SMOK R80TC... either way, buy two vapes, sell two

 

[Mike H.]

I like adjusting wattage to give me a certain amount of voltage..Sometimes I need 26.4 watts to reach 4.2v and sometimes I need 38.2 watts to reach 4.20 volts (depending on ohms)..I suppose its more to fine tune voltage based on ohms more than anything but I agree its difficult to tell the difference between a half a watt or less...My Laisimo L1 works with .5v increments.

 

[The Vape Crusader]

I like adjusting wattage to give me a certain amount of voltage..Sometimes I need 26.4 watts to reach 4.2v and sometimes I need 38.2 watts to reach 4.20 volts (depending on ohms)..I suppose its more to fine tune voltage based on ohms more than anything but I agree its difficult to tell the difference between a half a watt or less.

Another valid point!

I too will look for the wattage that gets me to [whatever] amount of volts, though I'll probably round to the nearest 5 from there.

 

[conanthewarrior]

I like adjusting wattage to give me a certain amount of voltage..Sometimes I need 26.4 watts to reach 4.2v and sometimes I need 38.2 watts to reach 4.20 volts (depending on ohms)..I suppose its more to fine tune voltage based on ohms more than anything but I agree its difficult to tell the difference between a half a watt or less...My Laisimo L1 works with .5v increments.

This is actually a great point, I didn't think of vapers who prefer to vape at a set voltage, so the minor adjustments are needed in this case.

Did you get used to VV mods, and is this why now you prefer to go by voltage, instead of wattage?

I started vaping properly around 2 years ago, and before that had only tried standard Ego style pens. I never tried VV, my first mod was a Sigelei 30W mini so I missed the VV mods. I guess if I learnt on those style mods, I would also probably go by voltage more than I do now.

 

[Mike H.]

This is actually a great point, I didn't think of vapers who prefer to vape at a set voltage, so the minor adjustments are needed in this case.

Did you get used to VV mods, and is this why now you prefer to go by voltage, instead of wattage?

I started vaping properly around 2 years ago, and before that had only tried standard Ego style pens. I never tried VV, my first mod was a Sigelei 30W mini so I missed the VV mods. I guess if I learnt on those style mods, I would also probably go by voltage more than I do now.

For me ive found no matter what Ohms the coil is im liking a vape at around 4.2v or maybe higher depending on air flow capabilities of the RTA or RDA..My watts are usually set up at odd ball numbers like 33.4 or 36.7 or whatever based on ohms to reach the voltage level...Sometimes I get it so its 42 watts giving 4.2 volts with a .42ohm coil..lol

 

[The Vape Crusader]

For me ive found no matter what Ohms the coil is im liking a vape at around 4.2v or maybe higher depending on air flow capabilities of the RTA or RDA..My watts are usually set up at odd ball numbers like 33.4 or 36.7 or whatever based on ohms to reach the voltage level...Sometimes I get it so its 42 watts giving 4.2 volts with a .42ohm coil..lol

LOL... you are so OCD. I know because I am too.

I know my 0.5 coils are somehow gonna result in 70.1 watts to get to 4.00 volts. NIGHTMARE!

 

[AndriaD]

Y'all made me curious about this vv, it's been so long since I vaped that way, I checked out how mine currently looks, on Steam-engine:


The resistance is actually 2.13, which would actually put it at 4.5v and 2.11A, at 9.5w. And that battery is at the end of its 2nd day of use, and still has roughly 25% capacity left.


Andria

 

[dropstep]

i use the .1 increments just too amuse myself by setting it at a random 3rd number. i vape between 80w and 100w mostly, but its usually something weird like 83.7 or 99.8 etc. cant tell a flavor diffrence in the tiny increments so its just amusing, if the mod didnt have that feature i could live without it!