Dry Hits

[sunshine702]

Hi everybody. So after having my vape about 3 weeks it decided to jump in the bathtub with me! Anyways the battery survived, the coil was replaced and I got new juice. Before the incident I loved my vape however now, my hits are very dry, almost to the point of coughing after taking a hit. Is it me, the juice (from a different place) or my vape itself??

Any advise would be lovely!!

 

[sunshine702]

Its a Kangertech Subvod if it matters...

 

[DED420]

The mod is very straight forward, so if it's still functioning at all, then it's not the root of the problem.
I would assume it's either the new coil wasn't primed fully or is a dud, or the juice you're using.

Is the new coil the same resistance as the old one?
You said the juice is different, what is the juice you're using? Is it the same VG/PG ratio as the last one?

 

[sunshine702]

Hi Ded420....Because I am new to vaping, I would assume that they put the same coil in...I can see it says Kangertech on it. The only thing that I can really think of is that my boss, who bought it for me, also mixed the juice (he knows the people at the shop he went to) and maybe he added something more? I loved the taste of the last juice...this one just isnt doing it for me at all....

 

[sunshine702]

What is the VG/PG ratio? Is that something different that I cant request? I guess I thought they were all made the same...

 

[DED420]

That tank has a variety of coil options

• 0.5Ω SSOCC standard coil

• 0.5Ω SSOCC Clapton coil

• 1.2Ω SSOCC standard coil

• 0.15Ω SSOCC Ni-200 coil for temperature control devices

VG/PG = Vegetable Glycerin / Propylene Glycol = Main base ingredients for Ejuice.
VG is a thicker liquid / PG is a thinner liquid
It's a general consensus that VG is more for Vapor Density, and PG is more for Flavor, and Throat Hit (although in my experience, they both do great at both flavor and vapor).
Different juices come in different ratios (Max VG, 80/20, 70/30, 60/40, 50/50) are the most common, but any ratio can be attained if you DIY/Custom Order your own juices.

(This is a generalization)
VG is more for "Cloud Chasers" as it provides a smoother, denser vapor.
PG is more for "Flavor Chasers" as PG is supposed to inherently hold and enhance flavorings better than VG.

VG is used more for Direct-Lung hit Sub-Ohm tanks, and PG is more for Mouth-To-Lung hits on higher-ohm tanks.
Since PG is thinner, it wicks more efficiently than VG, making it more suitable for smaller tanks, that have smaller coils with small juice flow holes (like the Nautilus tanks), and Vice-Versa, VG is thicker and more suited for lager tanks with larger coils (like the TFV4 and Crown).


If you could, take the coil out and read what resistance it is. If it's the 1.2ohm coil, you'll need a higher PG juice to wick efficiently. If it's the 0.5ohm coils, a 70/30 VG/PG will probably work best. Kanger coils aren't overly friendly with high VG juices, the juice flow holes just aren't adequate enough for 80VG+. Also try adjusting your AFC (Air Flow Control). If you have a higher ohm coil and thick juice and wide open AFC, the airflow can actually "dry out" the coil faster than the juice can wick, giving you a drier, flavorless vape. Also ask your boss what ratio the juice he got you is (if it's not labeled on the bottle) and what the juice ratio was last time.

 

[sunshine702]

The coil says .50 15w-60w. The AFC is open all the way. I know this flavor is 80/20 as I asked about it. I will have to ask him how he made it since there wasn't a label on it. The juice he made hit really hard all the time but was flavorful too, menthol 80% and chocolate at 20% almost at the tail end of it. Based on the coil I have what do you think? It was only $4 so maybe it isnt the greatest and not comparing to the original?

 

[sunshine702]

The coil says .50 15w-60w. The AFC is open all the way. I know this flavor is 80/20 as I asked about it. I will have to ask him how he made it since there wasn't a label on it. The juice he made hit really hard all the time but was flavorful too, menthol 80% and chocolate at 20% almost at the tail end of it. Based on the coil I have what do you think? It was only $4 so maybe it isnt the greatest and not comparing to the original?

Does my saying its "dry" make sense?

 

[DED420]

Is it the square coil head, or a circular one? If it's the square one, it's the standard coil, if it's the round one, it's the Clapton head. If it's the Clapton, it'll be a warmer vape, since there's more wire mass to heat, and therefore it'll vaporize more juice per hit than the standard one will. If the juice is too thick to wick fast enough, that could be causing the "dry" hit (not dry as in burnt cotton, but dry as in not enough juice for a proper hit). 80VG might be just a little too thick for those coils. Maybe the first juice was a 60VG or 70VG, and wicked more efficiently.

A 5pk of coils is roughly $10-$15, so $4 per coil is pretty standard (the TVF4 coils are almost $6 a piece).

The only way you're going to be able to tell for sure, is to get a different coil or try a different juice. The coil that comes pre-installed in the tank (which I'm assuming is the first coil you used in it) is the 0.5ohm SSOCC standard coil. I have a funny feeling you might have the Clapton coil now. I would recommend trying another 0.5ohm Standard Coil, and see if that's the issue. If it's not, then it's the juice, you'll have to get a higher PG juice (maybe ask your boss to thin out the juice he gave you by adding a little more PG) and then stick with higher PG juices (70% VG tops).

 

[sunshine702]

The one I have now is circular and so was the 1st one. He played with the juices for an optimum hit so maybe thats what Im missing as the vape shop is doing 80/20., that being said I should do maybe a 60/40 for the hit I was achieving before? I know I ask alot of questions lol I appreciate all of your help!!

 

[sunshine702]

Is the difference between the standard and Clapton coil the shape of it?

 

[sunshine702]

I spoke with my boss and he said that he did 60pg and 40vg....there is my problem!!!

 

[AmandaD]

Is the difference between the standard and Clapton coil the shape of it?

Not necessarily. The round comes now come in various different ohms!

I use the 0.5 clapton in a Nebox with 80% VG and it works fine.

 

[skt239]

I spoke with my boss and he said that he did 60pg and 40vg....there is my problem!!!

The 80/20 you previously had refers to the VG/PG ratio and not the amount of chocolate to menthol. If this time you have a 60/40 it will likely be a bit more throaty than the 80/20. Higher VG juices tend to be smoother. Is the nic level the same as before? More or low quality nic will also make the juice seem harsher.

 

[sunshine702]

The new juice was 80/20 VG/PG but the chocolate to mint ratio just happened to be the same lol. When I went to the shop after work, I switched over to 40/60 PG/VG, it better but not what I had experienced before. I used 8 nic but plan to drop the next round of juice I buy. Still not quite happy with this juice either

 

[sunshine702]

BTW you guys are doing great with your not smoking! I hope to be in the same boat someday!