But if minors are already smokers, they should have access to vaping, to enable them to quit the much more dangerous habit. I would never be in favor of minors vaping "just for kicks," but if they're smokers already who want to quit, they should NOT be told "sorry, you'll just have to tough it out" -- because they'll very likely just keep smoking.
Andria
Under age vaping by prescription only?But if minors are already smokers, they should have access to vaping, to enable them to quit the much more dangerous habit. I would never be in favor of minors vaping "just for kicks," but if they're smokers already who want to quit, they should NOT be told "sorry, you'll just have to tough it out" -- because they'll very likely just keep smoking.
Andria
Under age vaping by prescription only?
Same as with alcohol during prohibition?
It is the law as is underage smoking.That would entail their parents getting involved, and they may not even know their child is a smoker. I started smoking at 13, and hid it from my parents till I was 15. They started buying me cigarettes because they were tired of me stealing theirs -- it would have been better if vaping had existed then, they could have bought me vapes instead -- or, maybe I would have tried vaping instead of smoking, and not gotten hooked on MAOIs at such a young and physically-immature age.
No. There is simply no good reason to make vaping off-limits to minors -- if it's 95% safer for us, it's 95% safer for them too, and it's a hell of a lot less addictive. Keeping it for adults only is total bullshit, just another ANTZ ploy -- of course they want minors to smoke, it's a whole new generation to bully and demonize!
Andria
It is the law as is underage smoking.
As is illegal drug use, Alcohol use, etc.
A parent should be involved if their child is smoking.
A parent who cannot tell their child is smoking is not a very observant parent.
Just have to disagree with you on this one Andria.
Umm that is why we have parents and laws.That comment makes no sense at all, total non sequitur.. Learning to have responsibility for making a stupid choice when you're too young to understand addiction, mortality, or even that actions sometimes have permanent consequences? Didn't we all have to do that? And for most of us, didn't we find it utterly impossible to quit and stay quit, until vaping? You're basically saying, "they were bad to smoke since they're too young, so they should be punished for it by being denied the easier way to quit." That might make sense to a puritan, but not to anybody sane and rational.
What will happen is that they'll keep smoking... just like we all did, until there was vaping. Then they'll be hooked as hard as we were. Oh yeah, that's a good way to handle it.
Andria
It's funny you should mention that...when I first started vaping,I went to a vape shop to buy some juice, and a woman and her 16 year old son came into the shop so the mother could buy juice for her son.....I started smoking at 15, and if vaping had been around and my parents could have gotten me directed into vaping instead of smoking I probablly would never have become a smoker.You're talking about "shoulds".... which are all very well, but don't usually reflect REALITY. I'm talking about kids that smoke having the same opportunity to quit with vaping that addicted adult smokers have. It's even more heinous to deny that opportunity to kids than to deny it to adults, because smoking hurts them MORE.
You're right, kids SHOULDn't smoke. but the ones that do SHOULD NOT be told "You shouldn't smoke, so you can't vape. Just quit; tough shit."
Andria
Umm that is why we have parents and laws.
To remove those stupid choices.
I say keep the laws in place and counsel children to neither smoke nor vape.
100% no. No law or religious rule prevents 100% of all of the undesired behavior.Oh yeah, that works so well.
Andria
Murder has been illegal for most of the existence of civilization.
Yet it still exists. Should we make it not illegal?
My parents, church, and Mrs Walton taught me that... j/sLearning to have responsibility for making a stupid choice when you're too young to understand addiction, mortality, or even that actions sometimes have permanent consequences?
Yeah it is rough that kids should have to learn responsibility for their actions.