Hello forum. I am a relatively new DIY’er and I have a few issues that some more experienced mixers may be able to help with.
I have purchased some supplies, VG and PG (not sure if I can mention vendor names), a water soluble flavoring (loranns Blueberry) and 100mg 100%PG nicotine base. These were my initial supplies.
I tried to do my first mix using the e juice me up calculator. 10ml of 6mg 30PG70VG with 30% blue berry. The first issue was hitting that 30/70 ratio. Maybe the PG based nic and the inevitable PG based flavoring. 36PG64VG was the best I could do.
My biggest issue was that though the Blueberry smelled very strong it did not taste like anything really. So I figured let it steep. 2 weeks later nope no flavor. Since this batch I have made others with less blueberry and some with more with similar results.
This led to me getting some other types of flavoring, Watkins Imitation Strawberry. This was very strong when mixed and vaped but is more like strawberry jam with 17% alcohol base it was not the greatest either but I could taste flavor.
Other flavors Watkins Root beer which contains no alcohol and Bakers vanilla a PG based vanillin tincture.
My question is that since these artificial flavorings” are often diluted in a base of alcohol, PG or water would it be better to get the actual artificial flavor undiluted? That way I can mix my chemical flavor concentrates at the density I would like. So far the only one I could find is vanillin in powder form. One other site had a list of chemicals but it required research to find out what they were used for (i.e. cocoa flavor, a chemical that tricks the brain into believing that if something is red it is cherry, etc.).
Notice on those familiar with the e-juice calculator software there is a tick box in the flavoring row that says flavor no pg no vg, where do these extracts come from?
I would like to clarify by saying I have tried a no flavor 6mg batch that was very good so my bases are ok. Flavor and the viscosity have been issues for me. I have experimented with leaving the Watkins flavor out in an open container slightly heated by a tv. Weighing the liquid every 15 min for a span of 2 hours I noticed a lot of loss to evaporation. I still get an alcohol taste and reduced flavor.
My goal is to make a mix that is equal to the flavor and quality of the retail brands.
Any help is appreciated.
I have purchased some supplies, VG and PG (not sure if I can mention vendor names), a water soluble flavoring (loranns Blueberry) and 100mg 100%PG nicotine base. These were my initial supplies.
I tried to do my first mix using the e juice me up calculator. 10ml of 6mg 30PG70VG with 30% blue berry. The first issue was hitting that 30/70 ratio. Maybe the PG based nic and the inevitable PG based flavoring. 36PG64VG was the best I could do.
My biggest issue was that though the Blueberry smelled very strong it did not taste like anything really. So I figured let it steep. 2 weeks later nope no flavor. Since this batch I have made others with less blueberry and some with more with similar results.
This led to me getting some other types of flavoring, Watkins Imitation Strawberry. This was very strong when mixed and vaped but is more like strawberry jam with 17% alcohol base it was not the greatest either but I could taste flavor.
Other flavors Watkins Root beer which contains no alcohol and Bakers vanilla a PG based vanillin tincture.
My question is that since these artificial flavorings” are often diluted in a base of alcohol, PG or water would it be better to get the actual artificial flavor undiluted? That way I can mix my chemical flavor concentrates at the density I would like. So far the only one I could find is vanillin in powder form. One other site had a list of chemicals but it required research to find out what they were used for (i.e. cocoa flavor, a chemical that tricks the brain into believing that if something is red it is cherry, etc.).
Notice on those familiar with the e-juice calculator software there is a tick box in the flavoring row that says flavor no pg no vg, where do these extracts come from?
I would like to clarify by saying I have tried a no flavor 6mg batch that was very good so my bases are ok. Flavor and the viscosity have been issues for me. I have experimented with leaving the Watkins flavor out in an open container slightly heated by a tv. Weighing the liquid every 15 min for a span of 2 hours I noticed a lot of loss to evaporation. I still get an alcohol taste and reduced flavor.
My goal is to make a mix that is equal to the flavor and quality of the retail brands.
Any help is appreciated.
