Just wondering if anyone has found a place to order/preorder th's device?
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subtanksupply has them however I'm thinking you'll find them for less than $38.99. Once vendors get them in stock you'll probably be able to pick one up for $30. I saw originvape has them listed with photo's etc however you cannot put it into the cart. Dammit now I'm looking at something else to buy.
Have a moonshot on the way, but will be watching for this to be on pre-order in black 
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The separate fill ports with attached cover and more build space improve on an already outstanding atty. I agree on the price, though. $38.99 isn't bad for what you get but I have to imagine this will be cheaper at other sites. VapeNW will probably put up a pre-order eventually and if you use the code it might be under $30.
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Since I still haven't gotten the 22mm, I'm going to get this
Ill use this as my excuse to add the to my collection, thanks for the idea!Since I still haven't gotten the 22mm, I'm going to get this
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Yea I might have to get this i was really curious about the first one but never got around to buying it. I've also never used a real genesis or style one so I'll probably get this one. Between this one or theorem
Yea, I'm picking both up. I like the design of the Theorem and am interested in those notch coils (yes, I know that the coils will be available for sale on their own), but don't like the small juice capacity. I would more use the Avocado out n about and the Theorem at home.
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I just ordered the Ohmega Alpha BFT 30mm. I think one 30mm is enough for me lol.Ill wait for the 30mm
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Its a great rta, I just wish it had juice control...
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I don't like the wicking method of these tanks, not to mention the Avocado, Fodi and all these styled RTA's have perpetual spitback coming off of them when vaping and the airflow is very basic and leads to a subpar dripper vape. I like the new fill method, I like the build space, I like the 5ml capacity, hate the spitback, hate the wicking method, hate the airflow. I may get it, but I don't think it's gonna be a winner or anything.
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It has plenty of airflow, I just don't like the thin spread it has. I always get spitback off these style tanks, but I'm an extremely high wattage vaper who uses massive coils.
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I bought it because it was a tank with a full 22mm RDA build deck. I got a decent vape off of it, but the spitback and wicking style killed me. I'd never used a tank like it before so I didn't know what to expect.
I also used dual coils in it, meaning on the 22mm I had to remove the wicks on one side with a small tool to fill, then stuff them back in. Given the 3ml capacity, more like 2.6mls really, I was filling a LOT and this fill method got pretty annoying.
Another issue I had was the fact that in a dual coil setup, the juice tilt during a hit will only come in contact with one set of wicks, leaving the others dry until you have to tilt it back in the other direction.
It's kind of in the no-man's land of vaping when you think about it. It's like it can't make up its mind on what it wants to be.
In the world of rebuildable tanks the wicking design, capacity and fill method alike are no where near as convenient or functional as a standard RTA or RDTA design.
In the world of rebuildable drippers, the thin airflow spread, spitback at high wattages and limited amount of overall airflow make it inferior to most other drippers.
Not to mention the thing is just, ugly.
So you're kind of left with this thing that doesn't vape as good as a full blown RDA and isn't as convenient or functional as a full blown RTA. I just can't see these genesis-style tanks ever really catching on, in my opinion they're gimmicky as hell. But if you like them, vape the hell out of them, they just aren't my speed. I feel RDTA's like the Boreas and Supreme succeed FAR, FAR more at giving a dripper-style vape with the functionality and convenience of a tank. Just my two cents.
If they increased the width of the airflow slots and maybe gave the airflow style a new design, then made the drip tip off-set like the Haze Dripper Tank to prevent spitback (or just ported the drip tip), I feel like it would give a full blown RDA vape. Then maybe give the top of the chamber a conical design as well. I'd definitely buy one if Geekvape made these changes. But as it is, it's just kind of a flunky in my eyes.
I also used dual coils in it, meaning on the 22mm I had to remove the wicks on one side with a small tool to fill, then stuff them back in. Given the 3ml capacity, more like 2.6mls really, I was filling a LOT and this fill method got pretty annoying.
Another issue I had was the fact that in a dual coil setup, the juice tilt during a hit will only come in contact with one set of wicks, leaving the others dry until you have to tilt it back in the other direction.
It's kind of in the no-man's land of vaping when you think about it. It's like it can't make up its mind on what it wants to be.
In the world of rebuildable tanks the wicking design, capacity and fill method alike are no where near as convenient or functional as a standard RTA or RDTA design.
In the world of rebuildable drippers, the thin airflow spread, spitback at high wattages and limited amount of overall airflow make it inferior to most other drippers.
Not to mention the thing is just, ugly.
So you're kind of left with this thing that doesn't vape as good as a full blown RDA and isn't as convenient or functional as a full blown RTA. I just can't see these genesis-style tanks ever really catching on, in my opinion they're gimmicky as hell. But if you like them, vape the hell out of them, they just aren't my speed. I feel RDTA's like the Boreas and Supreme succeed FAR, FAR more at giving a dripper-style vape with the functionality and convenience of a tank. Just my two cents.
If they increased the width of the airflow slots and maybe gave the airflow style a new design, then made the drip tip off-set like the Haze Dripper Tank to prevent spitback (or just ported the drip tip), I feel like it would give a full blown RDA vape. Then maybe give the top of the chamber a conical design as well. I'd definitely buy one if Geekvape made these changes. But as it is, it's just kind of a flunky in my eyes.
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It was purposefully designed to be in no-man's land. It just seems to me that you are knocking it for being exactly what it was supposed to be. IMO, all of your suggestions would change the Avocado into an entirely different atty and leads me to re-iterate my point from earlier: it seems like an odd decision for you to have purchased this at all. One look at the design should've told you that this is not suitable for the way you vape. It would be like me purchasing the Buddha Z V2 and then posting "Y'know, this atty is terrible because it doesn't vape well with my 8 wrap, 32g Kanthal single coil at 10W. They should just remove all the extra air holes and leave one 1.5mm air hole so I can tootle puff all day." The Avocado just wasn't designed for the way you vape and that's okay. It doesn't make it a bad design overall, it's just a bad design for you.
I do agree with you in regard to the fill method. I also run it with dual coils and filling can be annoying. That's been solved on the 24mm version so I'm happy.
Oh and I think the Avocado looks just fine.
I do agree with you in regard to the fill method. I also run it with dual coils and filling can be annoying. That's been solved on the 24mm version so I'm happy.
Oh and I think the Avocado looks just fine.
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This thing looks interesting. Saw Rips review on it and got me thinkin about one. Think I will hold off for now and get a better idea of what more people think about it
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I have several similar genny/RTA hybrids as I call them: Urba, Fodi, Nectar and Haze dripper tank. I've never had issues with spitback. The only reason I don't have an Avocado is financial. I pretty much drained my savings in January with several large expenses all in two weeks. It will take me a year of being frugal to put it back My income tax return had to pay my balance at the Cleveland Clinic for my medical bills.
My income tax return had to pay my balance at the Cleveland Clinic for my medical bills.
I saw that Heaven Gifts has them for pre-order, there is usually a coupon code for them as well. http://www.heavengifts.com/GeekVape-Avocado-24-RTA-Silver.html
I just saw the Avocado 24 today and kinda like it as well. I like that's it's a 24mm and has a nice big v-deck, holds 5ml, but not so big..... if that makes sense. It's big enough to hold a fair amount of juice, but not so tall. It looks like they improved the top-fill method, which is nice. So many nice tanks coming out, it makes it hard to decide, but think this would be nice in the rotation.
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FT is listing June 2 for the first ones to arrive. In that case I will just hold out for a US vendor, and wait it out. No one needs to have my money 6 weeks in advance.
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You seem to get overly-threatened by other people's opinions, maybe work on that. Changing the airflow to be wider-spread and making the drip tip offset to prevent spitback wouldn't turn it into a different device, it's suggestions for a better device. Also, giving more airflow options makes a better device as well, because since it's ADJUSTABLE you could still close it off. Options man, the Avocado has virtually zero as it sits. There's NO con to offsetting a drip tip, it's purely to prevent spit back, which is the biggest issue with the device. If I have issues with something, I'm not going to just shut up about my problems with it because other people like it. When a device can cater to ALL SORTS of vapers, then it's a damned good device. Devices that only cater to select needs don't tend to be top of the market, and that's just business. God forbid I don't like what you do and then be vocal about it, right?
In this industry, people like me bitching about products is how innovation gets forced on manufacturers, forced innovation is still innovation. Innovation makes things better. I'd like to see a version of this tank I LIKE, and me suggesting things that would make it better for ME and likely OTHER PEOPLE as well isn't a bad thing dude. You can't have everything to yourself, giving a tank more airflow options and an offset drip tip changes nothing, if you wanted to close the ADJUSTABLE airflow off to make it equal to the setting the Avocado currently offers you still could and the offset drip tip would do one thing, prevent spitback. Who LIKES spitback?
It wasn't purposefully designed to be in no-man's land, that's just lunacy to even say. It could vape as good as modern RDA's if it had more airflow options than just two tiny slots. Offsetting the drip tip is a damned good idea as well, the Haze did it and it prevented spitback wonderfully. That's all I want, more airflow options, and an offset drip tip. Meaning I could have more possible airflow where-as people like you can close it off, and I think it's obvious everyone wins on the offset drip tip. If you like spitback, I don't know what to tell you, maybe just take the entire top cap off and suck the vapor out of the air next to the coils.
A product that can appeal to everyone = A good product that sells a lot.
A product that can only appeal to a few select people = A possibly good product that never quite hits high sale marks.
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Like the 22mm the 24mm is on my want list. The fill ports is a great addition. Been using a syringe to refill, not as big a pain as taking a wick out, but one more thing I have to remember to pack.
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Agree with most of your points. Though for wicking, just give your tank a little flip in between every couple pulls and it's a non issue. I'd also agree that the Boreas does a better job of being a very high wattage chucker, but the avocado still has one thing on that beast, it's not a beast. It's small and it's short. I would like an offset drip tip, it was my first disappointment after vaping my Haze before this. Though I solve that by using different drip tips. More airflow options would be nice as well. My second biggest complaint after working with my Avocado for so long is that the top cap is just very bulky, could do more in that space if it wasn't as thick, but ohh well, still love the little bugger. Not sure I'll get the 24mm but I am very glad they fixed the biggest issue, that PITA filling method, that's probably the only reason I didn't get another.
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The wicking can't be fixed, it's just the style of this tank, I could gladly deal with it if it weren't for the horrible spitback this thing shoots off at high wattages on bigger coils, adding more airflow would just be a plus. Out of the three deal breaking cons the Avocado 22mm had, they've fixed two. It now holds 5mls instead of 3mls, which means you won't suck it dry quite so quick, and they made filling it with dual coil or even single coil setups much easier, making it easier to fill when it's dry. Now if they just included a ported drip tip or made the drip tip offset, it'd be a tank I could quite enjoy. I feel if they just made the airflow slots a bit wider, offset the drip tip and made the top cap slimmer and gave the inside a conical shape it'd be the best genesis-style RTA on the market for sure.
Yup the wicking is the thorn in the side of the RDTA, unlike RTAs where it's something just hard to get it right, the RDTA it's more just either inefficient or you're doing a lot of flipping it up and down (which honestly isn't all that hard, I am loving my Avocado on my NC).
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I feel the Boreas and Aromamizer Supreme are exceptions to the RDTA con rule, unless you count them having to be 25mm to accommodate larger build decks a con. I wish they would design a Genesis-Style RTA that had some sort of pressure plate in the bottom based on counterweight forces. As less juice was in the tank, a thin, sealed piece would rise from the bottom, constantly pushing the juice up as the tank drained. This would make it to where the tank was always wicked, and in my opinion would create the perfect dripper tank system on the market. Much easier said then done though.
Yup yup, well the alternative is longer wicks, but in that case you still have inefficient wicking for a few reasons. And as an aside, I couldn't agree more with Jaybo and that other guy that developed the Theorem, we need a simpler distinction. RTA = tank where you build your own coils, RDA = dripper where you build your own coils, RBA = rebuildable in general, though typically in reference to a rebuildable coilhead for normal tanks and what not. (at least that's how I understand the terms), but this new system needs a more easily understood name. I thought it was the RDTA for a while as it's a dripper with a tank connected, but apparently that was wrong as it's used to reference a lot of RTAs now... I'm confused!
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Longer wicks in the Avocado ate up to 1-1.5mls of capacity, which made it REALLY easy to suck dry, maybe with a 5ml tank with easier filling this could be fixed.
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And you're a condescending prick with reading comprehension issues. Maybe work on that.
Please point out one instance from my previous point in which I stated or even implied that you can't voice your opinion? You can't because it never happened. I'd also like you to point out where I stated or suggest that the Avocado should only cater to select people. Your suggestions seem to be geared toward catering the device toward you and people who vape like you... hmmm, that sound suspiciously like what you were accusing me of doing: wanting the device to be only for you. So not only are you a condescending prick who can't (or likely won't) properly comprehend what he reads, you're also a hypocrite. Well done.
Yes, you're right. Your suggestions of "MOAR airflow brah!" as well as "Steal the off set drip tip from the Haze!" are hugely innovative. How silly of me to not recognize your singular genius.
The bit in bold and italics is quite possibly the most asinine part of your post. The Avocado is not an RDA or RTA or genny. It's a mish mash of elements from all three types of atomizers. It was designed that way on purpose. So, yes, it was designed to be in no-man's land. Suggesting otherwise is to be willfully obtuse.
The airflow slots are hardly "tiny" though they aren't overly large either. What do you mean by "more airflow options"? Gigantic airflow? Considering that the 24mm has the same type of airflow, I imagine that GeekVape never intended this device to have gigantic airflow.
I'll state this again: I have no issue with spitback from the 22mm Avocado so I see no reason for the off-set drip tip. If you do, maybe it's a problem with your build and/or wicking. Don't know and frankly I don't care.
Keep up the good fight for MOAR airflow and cloudz brah.
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Now you're just a butthurt child. It's about heat and lungfill for me, not once in my life have I even entered a cloud chasing competition.
All I suggested was more possible airflow, which is still adjustable, and an offset drip tip. No-man's land means it's somewhere it doesn't want to be in, it's null and nearly pointless.
You're using that -I- word when talking about spitback. So now you're a hypocrite, because when I used I, it was ALL ABOUT ME, according to your rebuttal.
But by all means, please continue getting angry when all I'm suggesting are improvements for something. Me and my big scary opinions might hinder your ability to sleep tonight, how adorable.
Also, you claim I have comprehension difficulty, yet you seem to take things so literal it's basically laughable. Your entire stance on my opinion is obviously that of someone threatened and angry by someone else's opinion, you've proved in the past you couldn't even understand a joke when it had PURPLE FUCKING ROBOTS in the sentence.
We can do this all day man, but seriously, keep quoting me and bolding out my statements to make yourself look more intelligent. You're getting upset about something that could prevent spitback, which someone else OTHER THAN ME has already mentioned was a disappointment on Avocado when compared to the haze, and more possible airflow. Some of us like hot vapes, but not so hot it burns our mouth. We're not all using tiny micro coils and round wire builds, some of us actually vape above 100W and not just for clouds. CRAZY, right? I bet that idea doesn't even exist in your very narrow world view.
At the end of the day, it's very obvious you're intimidated by my statements, because I'm suggesting things that could improve the tank for a wider range of people (which means people who don't think exactly like you COULD LIKE IT. Fucking TRAGIC, bro.), and you feel the need to ram a broomstick so far up your ass the handle snaps off and go on a long tangent of bolding my statements because evidently you're too literal for life to understand them.
Maybe work on more than that, I'm sensing you got a bit of a god complex and it's not doing you any favors, br0. That's how cloud chasers talk, right br0?
All I suggested was more possible airflow, which is still adjustable, and an offset drip tip. No-man's land means it's somewhere it doesn't want to be in, it's null and nearly pointless.
You're using that -I- word when talking about spitback. So now you're a hypocrite, because when I used I, it was ALL ABOUT ME, according to your rebuttal.
But by all means, please continue getting angry when all I'm suggesting are improvements for something. Me and my big scary opinions might hinder your ability to sleep tonight, how adorable.
Also, you claim I have comprehension difficulty, yet you seem to take things so literal it's basically laughable. Your entire stance on my opinion is obviously that of someone threatened and angry by someone else's opinion, you've proved in the past you couldn't even understand a joke when it had PURPLE FUCKING ROBOTS in the sentence.
We can do this all day man, but seriously, keep quoting me and bolding out my statements to make yourself look more intelligent. You're getting upset about something that could prevent spitback, which someone else OTHER THAN ME has already mentioned was a disappointment on Avocado when compared to the haze, and more possible airflow. Some of us like hot vapes, but not so hot it burns our mouth. We're not all using tiny micro coils and round wire builds, some of us actually vape above 100W and not just for clouds. CRAZY, right? I bet that idea doesn't even exist in your very narrow world view.
At the end of the day, it's very obvious you're intimidated by my statements, because I'm suggesting things that could improve the tank for a wider range of people (which means people who don't think exactly like you COULD LIKE IT. Fucking TRAGIC, bro.), and you feel the need to ram a broomstick so far up your ass the handle snaps off and go on a long tangent of bolding my statements because evidently you're too literal for life to understand them.
Maybe work on more than that, I'm sensing you got a bit of a god complex and it's not doing you any favors, br0. That's how cloud chasers talk, right br0?
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Nice straw man, brah. You seem pretty adept at that.
The only point I'm going to address from your diatribe is about my spitback comment and my use of I. I referred to myself because your response was directed to me not every vaper out there. I'm sure you know that and are just being willfully obtuse again.
I'm not angry at all. If it makes your day to believe otherwise, by all means go for it.
Just food for thought: when you're the common denominator in multiple arguments here, the problem might just be you and not everyone else.
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Fill this out and get back to me later, because you're the ONLY one arguing here with me.
And I was just trying to find a preorder . . . .
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That's right, continually get angry at me whilst bolding statements and using incorrect examples of things such as a straw man fallacy to make yourself seem (FAR) more intelligent than you actually are with your world view that's evidently as strong as aluminum foil over there, buddy.
Since you seem to want to act like I'm straw manning you, even though I responded to things you both said and obviously implied, I got two words to sum up your entire stance. Confirmation bias.
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Continuing to post what you incorrectly believe to be are biting comments just show that you are the only one here who is angry.That's right, continually get angry at me whilst bolding statements and using incorrect examples of things such as a straw man fallacy to make yourself seem (FAR) more intelligent than you actually are with your world view that's evidently as strong as aluminum foil over there, buddy.
Oh and I put exactly one of your comments in bold italics. Soz brah!
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I guess my question is, if you don't like something, why come into a thread repeatedly to trash it? And attack members who do like it? That's called a troll.
I for one really enjoy the small cado. I've never ever had any spit back, but I'm not running it at uber hi wattage either. Actually, I prefer it single coil .... It offers plenty of clouds, great taste, ease of fill, plenty of air, & the small tank of juice lasts twice as long as its bigger brother, the Griffin. The key to the cado is the wicking. I run rayon, and trim it a lot before inserting into holes, very little is actually in the tank. When I run duals, I fill with a hypo, with thinned out wicks its easy. Don't think I'll bother with the 25, I'm happy with the 21, and enjoy it a lot. If I didn't have the smaller one I wouldn't hesitate to get the 25.
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I need to get some needle tip bottles for filling the Avocado. I do the same with my wicking. Trim the tails down by 1/2 to 3/4 and run them to the bottom of the tank section. I tried the method of using very short tails that just peek through the wick holes and found even with the "genny tilt" the wicks weren't being fed properly. I have zero issues with the tails touching the bottom of the tank section.
I want the 24mm version for two reasons: (1) greater juice capacity and (2) the separate fill ports.
The black version looks really sharp!
So what I have heard is that it will be released late May? Hopefully, we won't have to wait that long.
I was told 1st shipment out will be the first week of May. Hope it's not the end of May
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This just made me actually want one. It looks so much better in black.. now if only they ported the drip tip or offset it.The black version looks really sharp!
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Are we talking about the Griffin or Avocado? Because I haven't heard of an Avocado with top AFC. I'd avoid the top AFC griffin, jet stream forces push the top airflow back into the chamber before it ever hits the coils so it kills flavor, plus it takes away juice capacity.
Also I was just saying why I didn't like the old Avocado and said what I thought would make it better, JH was the one who started saying "well no wonder you don't like it since you're a cl0ud br0." Not trying to start shit again, but I was the one who was instigated. Definitely wasn't trolling, just stating issues I had with the 22mm that looked like they were being carried over to the 24mm.
Also I was just saying why I didn't like the old Avocado and said what I thought would make it better, JH was the one who started saying "well no wonder you don't like it since you're a cl0ud br0." Not trying to start shit again, but I was the one who was instigated. Definitely wasn't trolling, just stating issues I had with the 22mm that looked like they were being carried over to the 24mm.