Griffin RTA vs Velocity RDA

[SertraOD]

Yeah I know: people usually compare RDAs to other RDAs. But considering my limited budget I have to choose on or the other as my primary device.

I'm leaning towards the Griffin but I have some concerns.
Wicking: Does this tank TRULY keep the coils saturated at all times? Of course this is dependent on how good I am at wicking, but with the best wicking possible are there any problems with dry hits?
Leaking: Any problems with leaking? Are these leaking problems fixable?
Flavor/Vapor production: Does it rival or match the velocity?

Because if these concerns are really no concern at all, I think I'll get the Griffin.

And one question about the velocity:
How many hits of full on, big as possible clouds will that juice well supply?

 

[kimber]

I bought a black Griffin and like it so much I immediately got a silver one. Wicking is the issue, but once you figure it out it's fabulous! I've never had a dry hit but I did have some leaking issues... Totally user error. Once I got the wicking down its been smooth sailing ever since. And you have to remember to close the air flow and the juice controls when you fill it. I'm very new to rebuildables and I have to say I love the Griffin... Super easy to build on and the flavor is amazing. I'm tasting things in my juices that I wasn't getting with my Kanger tanks. Do it!!! The black one is my favorite!! Hope this helps!


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[SertraOD]

I bought a black Griffin and like it so much I immediately got a silver one. Wicking is the issue, but once you figure it out it's fabulous! I've never had a dry hit but I did have some leaking issues... Totally user error. Once I got the wicking down its been smooth sailing ever since. And you have to remember to close the air flow and the juice controls when you fill it. I'm very new to rebuildables and I have to say I love the Griffin... Super easy to build on and the flavor is amazing. I'm tasting things in my juices that I wasn't getting with my Kanger tanks. Do it!!! The black one is my favorite!! Hope this helps!


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What are your OHMS/Watts?

Thanks for the reply. I think "user error" is the most common phrase in the vaping community. Don't be so hard on yourself, these things are tricky.

 

[Iliketurtles]

I have had zero problems with the Griffin, I don't close off the airflow or juice flow at any time because it doesn't leak at all, that is going to depend on how you build it and your juice though so ymmv. If I could only have one or the other, Velocity every time, not even close. With either device you will still need to carry juice with you because it don't last long.

 

[SertraOD]

I have had zero problems with the Griffin, I don't close off the airflow or juice flow at any time because it doesn't leak at all, that is going to depend on how you build it and your juice though so ymmv. If I could only have one or the other, Velocity every time, not even close. With either device you will still need to carry juice with you because it don't last long.

Does that include the Velocity clone by tobecco or only the original?

 

[ej1024]

Lol...


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[Iliketurtles]

Clone is fine, I don't know who made mine to be honest but it is cool. Either of the Griffin or the Velocity is a great atty. Airflow on the griffin is pretty much the same when its half way open to when its fully open because the chimney is not that wide. So if you like a little restriction and you like the (semi)convenience of a tank Griffin is good. If you like the choice of having more airflow Velocity is better. As to hits per drip - that is totally going to depend on your build and how big your lungs are - so can't be answered by anyone but you.

 

[raymo2u]

I love the Griffin and it will satisfy anyone that uses it...There's a great thread that covers all your points HERE...many tips and tuts along the way through reading it. Its not a quick choice so reading it will give you the feel of what to expect using it.
If you want something that does what the Griffin does but its up'd by the tenth factor...get a Boreas RTA. I just did a written review on it HERE.

 

[SertraOD]

Clone is fine, I don't know who made mine to be honest but it is cool. Either of the Griffin or the Velocity is a great atty. Airflow on the griffin is pretty much the same when its half way open to when its fully open because the chimney is not that wide. So if you like a little restriction and you like the (semi)convenience of a tank Griffin is good. If you like the choice of having more airflow Velocity is better. As to hits per drip - that is totally going to depend on your build and how big your lungs are - so can't be answered by anyone but you.

Thanks. I'm thinking I'll go with the velocity based on what you're saying--ten bucks cheaper, too.

My lungs are huge--I'm much experienced from pre-vaping activities.

I'll be pushing the limits as much as I safely can.

 

[Iliketurtles]

Honestly you can't go wrong with either of them.

 

[vap3r]

How many hits of full on, big as possible clouds will that juice well supply?

Not many. Dual 22g 316L Ø3.75mm 7/6 wrap @ 0.1Ω wicked with rayon will get me three, maybe four big pulls.

 

[SertraOD]

Not many. Dual 22g 316L Ø3.75mm 7/6 wrap @ 0.1Ω wicked with rayon will get me three, maybe four big pulls.

This has me reconsidering.

I think it might be annoying to only get three hits per drip... and I imagine you have to drip quite a bit on there not just a few drops.

 

[raymo2u]

This has me reconsidering.

I think it might be annoying to only get three hits per drip... and I imagine you have to drip quite a bit on there not just a few drops.

The Griffins Deck is the same size as the Velocity RDA so the Griffin is what you would want...
Griffin is at the end, next to the Velocity RDA....

 

[SertraOD]

The Griffins Deck is the same size as the Velocity RDA so the Griffin is what you would want...
Griffin is at the end, next to the Velocity RDA....

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Yeah that's what had me considering the Griffin. I'm just worried about wicking and whether or not it tastes/hits as good as a plain old Velocity.

 

[raymo2u]

Yeah that's what had me considering the Griffin. I'm just worried about wicking and whether or not it tastes/hits as good as a plain old Velocity.

Its pretty easy to wick, I made a easy tutorial a while back for it and Ill post it here if needed. All you do it tuck the wick tips loosely into the ports and it will wick juice pretty quickly, much better then all the RTA's before it and most after it. The only RTA that Ive seen do a better job for wicking is the Boreas...

 

[Iliketurtles]

The main differences between the two are

1. Airflow- as you can see in Rays picture the Griffin has a chimney which has around 5-6mm internal diameter. Airflow is under the coils on Griffin which can be an issue if you like vertical coils, I don't like vertical coils so it is not an issue for me.

2. Tank - the Griffin has a tank On the plus side you get moar hits before refilling, on the negative side I broke 1 of my glass sections the day after I got it...but you do get a spare in the box, yay!

As I said you need to have juice with you for either one as juice doesn't last long in either one. You aren't likely to fill the Griffin and that will last you all day ha ha though just thinking about that scenario is funny.

I would not worry about the wicking keeping up in the Griffin, it does. Does one or the other taste / hit better? You could find people that will swear that their preference is better both ways. I prefer the Velocity, it is a personal preference....if someone else tells me the Griffin is better then I believe that it is...for them, that doesn't make it better for me As far as I know nobody has ever set up double-blind testing on any atomisers, I think that would be really interesting because I think the results would not mimic what people would expect.

You really totally can't go wrong either way. It's not like one is exponentially better than the other for anything, they are both very good.

 

[VapeRN]

Honestly, since the release of the Griffin my Velocity doesn't even have coils in it anymore. I have 2 Griffins in rotation and can't imagine a use for my Velocity the way I vape lately. The Griffin IS a better mouse trap, bigger build deck and a tank so no dripping. It's a win win.


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[JERUS]

Flavor wise, I don't think anything can match the freshly dripped RDA taste, but that second hit off the RDA, that's what you get with the Griffin each and every time. Dry hits, well I can pull one off, but it requires actively trying to and chain vaping so rapidly and so much that I'm coughing and light headed by the time I get to the dry hit, so it's possible, but highly unlikely in normal use. Sometimes i accidentally vape it with the juice flow closed, to find out 10-15mins later after a dozen pulls that I've been being dumb, open it up and back to new in a few seconds.

So dry hits are not something I'd be concerned with. Flavor is quite nice, I don't know if I'd say the same as an RDA mainly because of that first super saturated hit which can be gold, or sometimes nauseatingly overwhelming. The Griffin is nice and consistent and a fine purchase IMO. Can't lie I'm interested in that Boreas, I mean raymo hasn't gotten excited by something that hasn't delivered yet, but I just don't need another RTA because the Griffin gives me all I ask for.

 

[SertraOD]

Seems like the Griffin is the popular choice for everything except that "super saturated first hit".

How about quad coil builds? Does the Griffin handle those pretty well?

 

[JERUS]

Seems like the Griffin is the popular choice for everything except that "super saturated first hit".

How about quad coil builds? Does the Griffin handle those pretty well?

That may be the other big decision point, you have to figure the wicking method into your build. You have 4 pretty damn large holes to wick from. You have to put something in them so it would make a single coil a pain, and the quad you could but again you'd have to be a bit more creative and I couldn't tell you how well it works because I haven't tried.

 

[Shane Green]

Then how about Griffin 25 RTA, Geekvape had release it in their website.

 

[SertraOD]

Then how about Griffin 25 RTA, Geekvape had release it in their website.

I don't believe that is available for purchase yet though is it?

If it is I'd probably get that one.

Although I think I'll go with the velocity simply because of quad coil builds--seems like it would be difficult to wick four coils in any RTA.

 

[Scratch88683]

I'm a huge fan of both the griffin and velocity but if I could only have one it would be the velocity 100 %. The velocity gives the perfect Vape in my opinion. Honestly though I would buy them both velocity is perfect for when your at home and the griffin is perfect on the go. The customability of the velocity's airflow is what does it for me. And I'd say you could get 4-8 vapes from the velocity depending on the wattage/ohm's and how big of a Vape you take. I'd say you could get 5 pretty decent sized vapes. Now if you have it at max watts and taking as big a Vape as you can take then I'd say 3 maybe 4. Also if your going for clouds the velocity will destroy the griffin but I'd say most rda clouds will destroy most rta clouds. Anyways that's why I would go for the velocity but your really not gonna be wrong on either one you chose they are both excellent. I'm hearing great things about the boreas though as well so you should also consider that. It's probably gonna be my next purchase.