Hi! I just placed my first order to start my DIY. ANY TIPS??

[CalebT]

I just ordered from wizardlabs. I got lots of bottles and syringes. I got a gallon of vg. 500ml of pg. 60% nic liquid. Also i got cantaloupe, watermelon,papaya, and mango all by TFA. that was due to a recipe for monster melons i found. But my everyday vapes are usually watermelon or sour apple.

 

[Huckleberried]

Congrats, Caleb! And welcome to VU, too.

 

[CalebT]

I have been vaping and off cigarettes for 3 years. I currently have a goliath v2 and hoping to get the bellus shortly. I have gone through the ranks of the aspire atlantis tanks. Switched to the Vapeston Maganus. Then went onto the Smok Tfv4 before coming to my current setup of the goliath v2 atop my ipv4 with a orange/black carbon fiber wrap from jwraps.

 

[Mattp169]

tip 1
make samples of individual flavors first
so you learn the flavor and how much or what % YOU not everyone else likes it at
tip 2
always start at low percentages you can easily add more
tip 3
if it dont taste good right away
give it a few days of steeping and retry. sometimes flavors like creams,tobaccos,custards come to life after a little steep
tip 4
be sure to test your pg/vg and nic individually to e sure they dont have an off taste you dont like
and of course mix the nic with your standard pg/vg after testing those
tip 5
be adventurous and be willing to try things
tip 6
if at first you dont succeed....try try again
tip 7 if you like any of my tips and arent using your maganus or tfv4 send them to me

 

[CalebT]

Awesome advise! And do you usually waste alot before making it right? Also, is there any better companies for flavors or all in one buying on the net right now? Seems like every thread i find anywhere was from like 2013 lol. And also I traded my maganus to get money for tfv4 and i still want to hang onto it bc i love the clouds even though it lacks flavor!

 

[Mattp169]

many people here love Flavour Art or FA flavors
available from many online sites

they ar emore concentrated and more realistic flavors in many poeples opinions

TFA and CAP are the next most popular
then theres several others

Go to the DIY forum here and start searching or scrolling you will find a metric shit ton of info here on flavors and recipes

the first few times I made a juice
yes i wasted a bit because i hated the flavors i chose

now when i make something new make a 10ml batch and try it first
costs like a whole 1 or so to make that

i also wasted maybe $30 or so buying flavors to try I dont care for.

Most of what I make is good enough to use and not pour down t he drain.

ive been working on a black licorice recipe
havent wasted anything. each attempt was a step on teh journey to what i have now and really like

 

[CalebT]

How long do you think my supplies will last before i need to reorder. All my flavors were in 30ml. I go through about 250 mls in 2.5 weeks

 

[Mattp169]

depends on what your nic level is and assuming you meant you ordered 500ml of 60mg nic not 60% cuz that is insanely dangerous to handle
assuming its 6% you have enough nic to make 5liters of juice
you have enough flavors to make ...depends on % assuming 10% max flavor in any recipe you have enough flavoring to make 1200ml of juice
depending on what our pg/vg ratio is % of nic and flavors you have enough to make a max of 4.7 liters

 

[Teresa P]

Your flavors are going to last quite a while in 30ml, as most recipes take drops to flavor, not a lot.
Don't get discouraged. It takes practice and a lot of trial and error.
Don't be afraid to ask questions. None of them are stupid.
Don't mix without a notepad. Write everything down.
Don't taste without your notepad. Write down all impressions of your mixes.
Don't give up. This is a fun and very rewarding process.

 

[Huckleberried]

I took it as 60mg, lol.

 

[CalebT]

lol so i will be good for a long while!

 

[Mattp169]

lol so i will be good for a long while!

it depends
for vg and nic yeah your good for a while
depending on what pg level your shooting for you may need some of that.

if your mixing to 6mg nic then you will have 10%pg to start PLUS what ever flavors you use
TFA flavor mixes in m y experience range for 10-20%
so if you trying to make a 50.50 ratio you need pg. but if you want max vg or 80vg/20pg
your fine
but what about flavors
youll need more flavors eventually
what if you hate TFA flavors
my first order was tfa peach and mango
HATED THEM
tried LA form the local store
HATED IT
then cap and FW peach
HATED THEM
then finally got FA LOVED THEM
now i only order FA unless its a specialty thing FA doesnt make

now your probably going to ask why I hated the others and liked FA
simple
all the others taste like CANDY
actually they taste like year old dollar store reject hard candy to me
FA tastes like I just bit into a fresh piece of fruit not candy

now if you check out mamajsflavorshop.com
and order their cantaloupe crossing flavoring
i BET its made from TFA or CAP flavorings it tastes a lot like a jolly rancher to me.

And you know what, it aint half bad to me. but TONS OF PEOPLE LOVE IT and use it alot

so everyones tastes are different. you may love TFA flavors. Dont get worried just because i do not like the ones I tried. they may have some I would love but havent tried yet.

 

[CalebT]

What is FA? Haven't seen that one i think. It was hard to find alot of flavor companies bc all the posts were abbreviated lol

 

[CalebT]

Nvm frgt it was FlavorArt lol!

 

[Mattp169]

yeah you need to learn teh shorthand
ecigexpress is a good place to get flavors form lot sof different manufacturers
so is bull city vapors

 

[CalebT]

Alright cool! Thank you everyone!

 

[Huckleberried]

FA - FlavourArt
TFA-The Flavor Apprentice (ecigexpress has this brand listed under the name "Signature")
FW-Flavor West
INW-Inawera
CAP- Capella's
NF-Nature's Flavors
FE-Flavors Express
VZ-Vaping Zone (some are SC super concentrates)
HS-Hangsen
NV-Nic Vape
FLV-Flavorah

 

[CalebT]

The flavors i got were concentrated. Should i knock them down to like 3% if they are listed as 5% in the recipe i am going for?

 

[CalebT]

And do i need sweetener or is everything generally good without sweetener

 

[Huckleberried]

I have sweetener, but I've never needed it. If you use it, keep it low, or it can kill your flavors. Most flavors are plenty sweet on their own.

 

[nabibrian]

I personally like TFA Watermelon it is great standalone and it pairs great with other fruits.
Good choice! Enjoy and vape on!!!!

 

[Jimi]

All flavorings are concentrated, as stated above start low it is a lot easier to add more than to take some out

 

[MarshmallowScotty]

Hi I just wanted to pipe in since I don't have that much time under my belt, but I remember all my mistakes because I made them recently HAHA
Keep buying some juice... if you run out you *might be left with a bottle of something nasty you made. And make small amounts one mix at a time. I have 6 bottles of crap on my closet shelf I can't bear to throw away, but they really need to be tossed. Also, be patient with your steep. Everything (almost) they say about giving it time is true. I use a drop of Stevia with about everything because I like stuff just a little bit sweeter. But when I say one drop I mean it! Stevia can make your juice taste like crap. Some people like the taste, but I think too much tastes like diet sweetener and if I take a sip of diet Coke it makes me gag There's better alternatives, but this is all I have atm. And also- just imo your nic is still pretty high, so you don't wanna go dunking your hands in it I don't believe. I get 12mg/ml and I know I could cut higher levels but not right now, I'll wait until I get better at this!
Oh 1 more thing- write down your experiments! I have a tackle box I keep all my stuff in, and a notepad