Hello everyone! I am looking for buying TFV4 or TFV4 mini but first I would like to know how much juice does that tank eat? Currently I am using subtank mini which uses 5-6ml juice per day on iStick 40WTC using ni200 coils. If someone has this tank please tell me how much juice you have to use and which coils are you using!
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How much does TFV4 use juice?
- Thread starter Eliitti
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Really hard to nail down the usage. So many variables. Mainly it's how often you vape, but beyond that there's also what coils, what wattage, and how you vape.
Personally I go through 1-2 tanks per day on average. Usually closer to 1 on a weekday, 2 maybe 3 on a weekend, that's with the full size 5ml tank.
I generally stick to the dual coil RBA at somewhere between 50 and 110 watts (depends on juice, coil build and preference at the time). The only time I was surprised at my juice usage was when I popped a quad coil in and turned it up to 110-140, it just drained the tank like no other (and my batteries). With my dual coil setup it's not much different than my old tanks.
So while you see a lot of people commenting about how it eats through your juice, it's not that you have to, it's that it unlocks the ability to do so.
Personally I go through 1-2 tanks per day on average. Usually closer to 1 on a weekday, 2 maybe 3 on a weekend, that's with the full size 5ml tank.
I generally stick to the dual coil RBA at somewhere between 50 and 110 watts (depends on juice, coil build and preference at the time). The only time I was surprised at my juice usage was when I popped a quad coil in and turned it up to 110-140, it just drained the tank like no other (and my batteries). With my dual coil setup it's not much different than my old tanks.
So while you see a lot of people commenting about how it eats through your juice, it's not that you have to, it's that it unlocks the ability to do so.
So i could make 300ml juice (which would last for 1 month with tfv4 on tricoil?) for only 30 bucks?
welll sort of
you need all your supplies
1. a recipe
2. nicotine
3. pg and vg
4 your flavors
lets stasrt with recipes
you can find them all over the internet and in the DIY forum here
then nicotine comes in either pg or v g. pg is easier to work with, but if you like max vg juices then you need vg nicotine
it also coms in different mg strengths
form 3mg to 100
most DIY'ers just buy 100mg becuase of the cost. More mgs means more price
but since your diluting the 100mg down to 6,12 or whatever mg your saving money
then you need to find some pg and vg
then you need the flavors in your recipe
you can buy 1 flavor in 10ml from many places for ABOUT $3 mos t recipes call for 1-10 % of a flavor so even at 10% thats only costing you about 1 cent per flavor per ml you make
nicotine is the most expensive
for people like me who DIY all teh time we buy mass quantities
I just bought a liter of nicotine at 100 mg - that will last me 2-3 years for $60
i just bought 2 GALLONS of VG for $40 that will last me like 2-3 years
so just basing it offd the fact i use 6mg nicotine that 100mg nicotine can make me about 6000ml
plenty of vg in 2 gallons to make that
then i need say 60 10 ml bottles of flavors at $3 each
so to make 6 liters of juice it costs me
$280
which is about 4 or 5 cents a ml
now that nic was cheap and hopefully good, never used it before. my normal nic costs $130 a liter.
Now that is buying in BULK
when you buy in smaller quantities to get started your cost per ml is higher..... I think the avg is 9 to 14 cents a ml STILL ALOT CHEAPER then buying pre made juice.
I would suggest going to the DIY forum here and reading up on some of the tutorials
The check out ecigexpress.com to get you started with a small initial order
Last time i figured this out for some one
i think I figured for like $50ish you could get enough supplies from there to make 200-300 mls to get you started in the DIY world and figure stuff out
DIY does come out to be much cheaper per ML
but the problem is buying the bulk and finding the right recipes FOR YOU. For example I wanted to make a basic peach mango flavor. I tried 4 companies peach and mango flavors and spent like 30 on that stuff and I did not like it
then I found a 5th company's flavors and use them instead. SO there is some trial and error in DIY. But over all MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH Cheaper in the long run
It uses exactly as much as you take in. There in nothing about these new high power tanks that use more juice than others. If you do 5mls a day now. You can do 5 on the TVF4. If it makes you do 10 a day, there is nothing stopping you from doing 10 now.
I used more on my Crown because it was new and I got a new box. Once that wore off, I vape pretty much the same now as I did before. As with vaping in general, it's real easy to sit around and chain vape. Something many didn't do when smoking. But that's not the tank's fault.
I used more on my Crown because it was new and I got a new box. Once that wore off, I vape pretty much the same now as I did before. As with vaping in general, it's real easy to sit around and chain vape. Something many didn't do when smoking. But that's not the tank's fault.
Yeah I agree with that but it is a fact that more vapor needs more juice!
Big thanks for your awesome answer! You got me man and I will buy this tank and look into DIY juices now! THANKS!
If your getting into diy the 1st thing I'd say is research. The hardest thing about it is finding out what flavors are good. And not one company has the best of everything. The cheapest route is buy 100mg nic and mix it with bulk vg/pg. Also a good start is nude nicotine give out a free 15ml sample of 100mg nic. That's enuff to mix 300ml of 5mg juice. If ya need any advice hmu idk everything but more than happy to help if I can.
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Ya, and more vapor is determined by the user, not the tank. You are still in charge of the on button.
All true, but there are different styles. I don't really pay any mind to how much juice I'm chugging. Sometimes I want a thicker deeper hit, I close up the airholes, lower the wattage and take slower deeper hits. Sometimes I want to just chuck clouds and I open things up taking deep quick breaths. Most often it's somewhere in between. But, regardless of the style I'm pursuing at the time my tempo doesn't change. A puff or two every few seconds till my mouth is thoroughly dry and then I take a break for a few minutes. So my consumption varies more than my tempo based on the style I'm choosing at the time.
Not saying you're wrong, just that in my experience I can fluctuate quite a bit depending on a few different variables. Sure I could go through 20ml a day on my old setup, but I would be chain vaping all evening to do so (and I have done so), where I could end up doing that without thinking if I left the quad coil at 140w in my TFV4 and just proceeded at my normal pace (a pace that has me at around 5-10ml a day generally). If you max out a TFV4 it's going to have you running out of juice much faster than at least my old tanks if you don't also adjust your tempo.
Thanks for your answer! I will keep it in my mind
That's true but TFV4 uses more juice than subtank mini per puff when using tricoils and pushing over 70 watts.
Thanks for your answer!
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I'm not saying it can't put out more vapor. That's a given. But it isn't something you have no control over. The topic is given more weight than it deserves. Plenty of low wattage great flavor low vapor set ups to choose from. If you don't want to double your juice usage, don't buy a tank that can put out more than you want. If you want a tank that can put out twice as much, then buy more juice. Or, don't use the on button as much. We all have choices.Thanks for your answer! I will keep it in my mind
That's true but TFV4 uses more juice than subtank mini per puff when using tricoils and pushing over 70 watts.
Thanks for your answer!
Or use a different coil in the same tank
The reason I love this tank is it's versatility. Dual RBA is my favorite, nice thick vapor, pleasant vape anywhere from 60-95w with my current setup. I also enjoyed a vertical coil I put on the single RBA, it was quite similar to my old Atlantis which I still like. Then I can toss the quad coil in and crank up the power for huge thin satisfying clouds.
But, again, you're right Powerman, it's all within your control. And, I certainly wouldn't recommend the TFV4 if someone is not interested in building their own coils, especially if they're concerned with juice consumption. Unless you want to vape less often but get the same amount of juice, then I guess it fits quite well, but that idea simply doesn't make much sense to me.
The reason I love this tank is it's versatility. Dual RBA is my favorite, nice thick vapor, pleasant vape anywhere from 60-95w with my current setup. I also enjoyed a vertical coil I put on the single RBA, it was quite similar to my old Atlantis which I still like. Then I can toss the quad coil in and crank up the power for huge thin satisfying clouds.
But, again, you're right Powerman, it's all within your control. And, I certainly wouldn't recommend the TFV4 if someone is not interested in building their own coils, especially if they're concerned with juice consumption. Unless you want to vape less often but get the same amount of juice, then I guess it fits quite well, but that idea simply doesn't make much sense to me.
Agreed.
I'm definitely done with the arms race. It was never my intention, but I've continued to go up. But I don't need to suck vapor from a fire hose. I don't care what the next 300w tank has to offer. I have more than enough right now.
I'm definitely done with the arms race. It was never my intention, but I've continued to go up. But I don't need to suck vapor from a fire hose. I don't care what the next 300w tank has to offer. I have more than enough right now.