How safe does this Mech build sound.

[theycallmehydro]

I have asked this before and learned alot of stuff, Now I have fully ordered my parts and took everyone's advice on things. Im just curious if anyone thinks this new build won't be safe, not trying to end up with a pipe bomb lol

Mech Build:
Nemesis Clone (Fasttech)
Plume Veil V1.5 Clone (Fast Tech)
26g Hive Coils 0.18 Ohms (Tradition Vapes)
Mutation X v4 RDA (Both this and the Plume Veil will be used with the Hive Coils on the Nemesis)
Sony VTC 4 18650 30a

So what do you guys think? I should be everything in the next few days. I also want to ask a question about the battery. My Sony VTC 4 will come in a day or two after my mech, Im currious if the batteries in my Sigelei 150w would work. I got them at a local vape store, there blue wrapped and don't say the amps. They have been running fine at 70-80w pushing my Atlantis V2, would they be safe to use temporarily in my Nemesis? Or should I just wait out the day or two till the VTC 4 comes?

Thanks!!

 

[Manimal3497]

With not knowing for sure what kind of battery they are me personally i would just til the new ones come in just to be on the safe side since they are going into an unregulated mod. I am going to take a guess that if they are baby blue they might be the samsung 25r batteries which should be ok in that setup but without knowing for sure I would not risk it.

 

[BigNasty]

No just no.
Single coils not dual coils or you are going to be a into vapetardland poking the darwin bear.

 

[theycallmehydro]

No just no.
Single coils not dual coils or you are going to be a into vapetardland poking the darwin bear.

But the Sony VTC 4 could push dual coils correct?

 

[BigNasty]

But the Sony VTC 4 could push dual coils correct?

OK lets put it this way.
a. that nemmy is not going to hold up.
b. below .18 is going to tax the battery like a sumbitch. below that it is going to remove ANY safety cushion you are going to have.
c. .09 on a unknown quality clone mech, hey it is your face and hand.

 

[BoomStick]

It's not about how many coils you're using, it's about the total resistance of the build. Two .18 coils in parallel end up at .09 ohms. You're gonna need an accurate ohm meter. One that measures to at least a 1/100th of an ohm. Do you have a solid understanding of ohms law and the power formula?

 

[OBDave]

1. Keep the batteries in your Sig in a married pair, don't use them separately.

2. Your FT Nemmy should be fine, I have one and its been my most durable mech.

3. You NEED an ohm meter and an understanding of what you're doing when building on a mech. Might I ask why you feel the need to go this route when you have a great regulated mod and obviously haven't done much safety research yet?

fat fingered flubs courtesy dumb mobile phone

 

[theycallmehydro]

1. Keep the batteries in your Sig in a married pair, don't use them separately.

2. Your FT Nemmy should be fine, I have one and its been my most durable mech.

3. You NEED an ohm meter and an understanding of what you're doing when building on a mech. Might I ask why you feel the need to go this route when you have a great regulated mod and obviously haven't done much safety research yet?

fat fingered flubs courtesy dumb mobile phone

I have a ohm meter on the way should be here in a few days. Ive been trying to do research on it, but most tutorials and stuff just give you the basic run down on building one, can't find any that get into depth. As for the 0.18's I didn't know on duals it worked like that, another reason I went ahead and asked on here to make sure. Alot of my friends who are vaping all started with RDA's. One started on a AR15 with a Mutation Clone, and the other on a Authentic Corsair mech running a Lethal RDA. They all started on RDA's and got them made at the store and use the same batteries I got running in my Sigelei 150W thats why I thought it would work the same.

 

[BigNasty]

I have a ohm meter on the way should be here in a few days. Ive been trying to do research on it, but most tutorials and stuff just give you the basic run down on building one, can't find any that get into depth. As for the 0.18's I didn't know on duals it worked like that, another reason I went ahead and asked on here to make sure. Alot of my friends who are vaping all started with RDA's. One started on a AR15 with a Mutation Clone, and the other on a Authentic Corsair mech running a Lethal RDA. They all started on RDA's and got them made at the store and use the same batteries I got running in my Sigelei 150W thats why I thought it would work the same.

They will but your coils in single are .18 duals are .09. steamengine is going to help you out and the lower you go than .18 the more sharply the amp drain goes.

 

[theycallmehydro]

They will but your coils in single are .18 duals are .09. steamengine is going to help you out and the lower you go than .18 the more sharply the amp drain goes.

Ah, Now im glad I asked. Better safe then sorry, So If I wanted Duals. They would both have to read at .32?

 

[BigNasty]

To keep in the realm of safe then yes they would need to be .32 each to get the .18ish.

 

[theycallmehydro]

To keep in the realm of safe then yes they would need to be .32 each to get the .18ish.

Alright man thanks alot. So you think as long as I run a single coil at 0.18, Sony VTC 4, on the Nemesis with eather RDA, I should be fine? I wanna start making my own coils but I wanna see how I feel vaping on a drip for a long period of time.

 

[BigNasty]

You will get a more constant from a sigelei, since I picked mine up I have not touched my mechs.

 

[theycallmehydro]

You will get a more constant from a sigelei, since I picked mine up I have not touched my mechs.

I really love the Sigelei too, I use it as a every day vape lol. So it would produce better vapor on the Sigelei then? What watts would I put it at to smoke at .18? Or would it just matter the volts?

 

[BigNasty]

I really love the Sigelei too, I use it as a every day vape lol. So it would produce better vapor on the Sigelei then? What watts would I put it at to smoke at .18? Or would it just matter the volts?

Whatever your sweet spot is at. currently as an example I am running my .35ish coils at only 3.8v or 40 watts.

 

[theycallmehydro]

Whatever your sweet spot is at. currently as an example I am running my .35ish coils at only 3.8v or 40 watts.

Most vaping I do is at 70-80w on the Sigelei, Would the new coil be able to handle that much? If so how far is to much when it comes to firing the single coil on the Plume Veil or Mutation X.

 

[Whiskey]

Moved to Mech area

 

[theycallmehydro]

Whatever your sweet spot is at. currently as an example I am running my .35ish coils at only 3.8v or 40 watts.

The coils actually just came in and the packaging says they are each 0.25 Ohms. Is that better? Still can't run duals?

 

[BigNasty]

The coils actually just came in and the packaging says they are each 0.25 Ohms. Is that better? Still can't run duals?

Honestly you are pushing the battery cells in a single battery mech. In the sigelei it will nom those duals like a fat kid with cheetos.

 

[theycallmehydro]

Honestly you are pushing the battery cells in a single battery mech. In the sigelei it will nom those duals like a fat kid with cheetos.

Sorry for asking so much questions. Rather take your advice than screw myself lol. So the Sigelei will be able to handle 2 of the coils at 0.25 ohms each? Won't that make it under 0.18 Ohms tho? I thought that wasn't safe.

I think ima keep the Mutation X V4 for my Sigelei, and use the Plume Veil strictly on the Mech, What ohm's should I aim for on the Plume Veil for good cloud production without stressing the Sony VTC 4 to much?

 

[OBDave]

If they're 0.25 singles, at duals they'd be 0.125 - I don't think a Sig would fire that, nor is there any reason to go that low - I run 0.6 individual coils as duals that ohm out around 0.3 combined and just crank the wattage on my Sig where I want it - much better than my mechs, which I've hardly touched since I got into the world of big-power regulated mods.

Here's my big thread on a lot of stuff you should probably know before diving deeper - please spend 15-20 minutes with it and let us know if you have any more questions:

http://www.vapingunderground.com/th...-sick-clouds-bro-thread-sticky-edition.78126/

 

[theycallmehydro]

If they're 0.25 singles, at duals they'd be 0.125 - I don't think a Sig would fire that, nor is there any reason to go that low - I run 0.6 individual coils as duals that ohm out around 0.3 combined and just crank the wattage on my Sig where I want it - much better than my mechs, which I've hardly touched since I got into the world of big-power regulated mods.

Here's my big thread on a lot of stuff you should probably know before diving deeper - please spend 15-20 minutes with it and let us know if you have any more questions:

http://www.vapingunderground.com/th...-sick-clouds-bro-thread-sticky-edition.78126/

Thanks alot, looks like alot of useful info. I do have a few questions left tho.

If two builds are made, a Single Coil for the Mutation and for the Plume Veil, If they are 0.18 or 0.25, is there a watt limit I can push them at on my Sig like how my Atlantis V2's 0.3 Ohm Coils have. (70 - 80 W )

 

[BigNasty]

A sig 150 will fire down to .10 as per the mfr. info, I know they will fire .11 and .12 with easy but you are not going to get a whole lot of battery life out of that low of coils.
The sig is regulated and has some safety features built into for safer vaping, where as a mech does not.

 

[Robert B]

two words, STEAM ENGINE Use it, learn it, love it

 

[theycallmehydro]

I got my first coil build on the Plume Veil reading at 0.4 Ohms on my Sig 150W. How high can I fire that? Like can i use it at 70W?

 

[Robert B]

I got my first coil build on the Plume Veil reading at 0.4 Ohms on my Sig 150W. How high can I fire that? Like can i use it at 70W?

Dude, just try it. You will find your breaking point on your own in short order. Just don't use too high pg juice or you will cough up a lung

 

[theycallmehydro]

Dude, just try it. You will find your breaking point on your own in short order. Just don't use too high pg juice or you will cough up a lung

It seems to be doing great at 50W to hot at 70W. Thanks alot everyone for your help. Can't wait to get my Sony VTC 4 in so I can run a build on my Nemesis.

 

[OBDave]

I got my first coil build on the Plume Veil reading at 0.4 Ohms on my Sig 150W. How high can I fire that? Like can i use it at 70W?

Wattage suggestions from clearomizer manufacturers are just that - suggestions. Since you manufactured your own coils on the RDA, you get to make the suggestion - try it. If you like it, try it higher. If you like it better, try it higher again. If you liked it better before, turn it back down.

 

[theycallmehydro]

Wattage suggestions from clearomizer manufacturers are just that - suggestions. Since you manufactured your own coils on the RDA, you get to make the suggestion - try it. If you like it, try it higher. If you like it better, try it higher again. If you liked it better before, turn it back down.

Okay that makes clears up alot. Been doing as much research as I can, always thought those suggestions were the way to go lol. Thanks for clearing that up for me.