So far I've had experience with the Smok Xpro M80 (I think I got that right), eleaf iStick 50W, Tesla 2 sub mod, and IPV D2. Basically I've only had good experiences witb the smok and eleaf. The M80 eventually just completely died on me. And so now I have the IPV D2. Which I completely hate. The battery life is pure garbage. Vape on it for 3 maybe 4 hours and its dead. I'm considering going back to a mod with a completely internal battery like the iStick. It never gave me problems, would charge off any charger I was ever around, and had pretty decent battery life. But I think I want to go back to something like that. I don't care too much for carrying around extra batteries and having to buy a special charger for 18650s. I just want something that I can run rdas and rtas (flavor chasing I don't particularly care about clouds) and my herakles plus and still get good battery life. What are my options? I also don't have the biggest budget.
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Keep in mind guys I'm not an expert but I don't think I'd really need anything over 100w. From what I've read I can build hard hitting rdas and rtas under 100w. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
Why not just get another Smok X-Pro M80?
It's a decent mod and fairly cheap at Vape America for $45
http://www.vapeamericainc.com/products/the-80w-smok-xpro-m80-plus-vw-vt-mod?variant=1898328769
I have 1 and I love it.Sorry yours bought the farm...Cheers!
It's a decent mod and fairly cheap at Vape America for $45
http://www.vapeamericainc.com/products/the-80w-smok-xpro-m80-plus-vw-vt-mod?variant=1898328769
I have 1 and I love it.Sorry yours bought the farm...Cheers!
I've been looking at the Wismec but I'm also trying to find other options.
My vote also goes to the Wismec Rx200
I own two of these wonderful mods.. Best mods I've vaped in a long time..three batts in a compact package that fits my hand well..and batts go for days on a single charge..although it is a 200w mod I seldom vape above 80w, but its nice to know I have that extra power should I ever need it..I paid $45 (ea) for my two..can't say enough about the RX200..they're great!
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I'd shy away from the Wismec if you refuse to buy a decent battery charger. Matter of fact, that really should limit you to integrated battery mods like your M80 - you can use on board charging occasionally (though I've heard the Wismec isn't great at that),but 18650s really should be charged with a charger.
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Agreed..I charge my batts for the RX in the LUC V4 ..I tried charging them in-mod and although it did work it just took too long to fully charge..good point there Dave..
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I'm looking at ones with integrated batteries but those seem to be dying out slowly and getting replaced by single or dual 18650 batteries.
Yep, most mods with built in batteries are throw aways ..I mean when the batt no longer takes a charge the mod is useless and thrown away..it is for this reason I never wasted my money on a throw away mod... Just sayin
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I just feel like it would be very inconvenient to carry a mod around that can't be recharged easily if you're out and about. I'm usually never home and don't really go to many places where I can plug a nitecore in. Maybe some of you guys know some tricks I don't know though.
I think it'd be important to figure out what I need for my goals first before I start looking at mods. As I know currently almost nothing about building coils for RDAs and RTAs I have no idea what type of wattage I would need. A guy told me I can run an RDA at any watt if I build it right but he also sent me to a local vape shop where I bought two mods (Tesla 2 and IPV D2)and an 18650 that all turned to junk after about two days so I don't trust him much.
That does largely seem to be the case - I think a lot of it is that they don't push the power vapers are demanding, and that they literally die - dead batteries in an 18650 mod? Replace 'em! Dead batteries in a fixed-battery mod? Throw the mod away, even if everything else is still in good shape!
Seriously, a decent 4-bay charger can be found for $25 or so, the price isn't all that bad. And LG now has a 20A 3000 mAh battery callled the HG2 - put those in a dual-cell 18650 mod and you've got more power than any lipo pack I've seen in a fixed-battery mod. And yes, virtually all mods have micro-USB charge capability (the fact that it doesn't is the only thing I hate about my D2), but that USB port is usually meant a) for installing firmware updates and b) for topping up your batteries in a pinch. It's not intended to be a full-time replacement for a real charger.
I need to change my D2 battery at least once, if not twice, if I'm carrying it all day - that's definitely frustrating. But I've had dual-18650 mods that will last at least through a workday on a charge, and since I've got several sets of married batteries I know I'll have some fresh ones waiting for me when I get home.
So all these guys are right, in the end you're going to thank yourself for investing a little in a removable battery mod.
But, I wanted to jump in and throw some things out there.
Charger - $10-40 (depending on quality and size, I have no problems with my 2 bay charger, 2 in the mod 2 in the charger)
Battery - ~$6-7 each (so that means $24-28 for a set of 4 to rotate, or $36-42 for 6 for 3 battery mod)
Mod - ~$40-60 depending on what you get but there's a solid amount of good options in that price range.
Point being, realistically you're looking at around $100 to get all set up. Good news, once you get that charger you have it and you'll be good for a long time on that end. Batteries last quite a while, though do need replacing eventually. BUT, compared to a fixed battery mod you're not going to have to pay that mod price again any time soon. Basically you get the upfront punch in the wallet, but over time you'll save money only really having to replace batteries as they go bad.
One last thing: http://liionwholesale.com/search?type=product&q=18650
Solid vendor, trusting a vendor is huge when you're talking about batteries. Companies like Efest and all these blahfire things simply rewrap batteries. IIRC there are 3 actual battery producers, Sony, LG, and Samsung. So stick to the big boys because otherwise you're just getting a random one of their batteries with a fancy piece of plastic around it.
But, I wanted to jump in and throw some things out there.
Charger - $10-40 (depending on quality and size, I have no problems with my 2 bay charger, 2 in the mod 2 in the charger)
Battery - ~$6-7 each (so that means $24-28 for a set of 4 to rotate, or $36-42 for 6 for 3 battery mod)
Mod - ~$40-60 depending on what you get but there's a solid amount of good options in that price range.
Point being, realistically you're looking at around $100 to get all set up. Good news, once you get that charger you have it and you'll be good for a long time on that end. Batteries last quite a while, though do need replacing eventually. BUT, compared to a fixed battery mod you're not going to have to pay that mod price again any time soon. Basically you get the upfront punch in the wallet, but over time you'll save money only really having to replace batteries as they go bad.
One last thing: http://liionwholesale.com/search?type=product&q=18650
Solid vendor, trusting a vendor is huge when you're talking about batteries. Companies like Efest and all these blahfire things simply rewrap batteries. IIRC there are 3 actual battery producers, Sony, LG, and Samsung. So stick to the big boys because otherwise you're just getting a random one of their batteries with a fancy piece of plastic around it.
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I think the reasons I'm so against changeable batteries is a) I haven't had a very good experience so far with this D2 using at the same watts I ran at and it dies within like 2 hours and b) I've been told that if anything happens to the batteries, even so much as the wrapper comes off they can cause injury. Should I shoot for finding a 200w for a low price or can I settle for less power and still get a great vape with lower power and an RDA?
The wrapper doesn't just come off, but yes there is certainly a necessity for awareness with batteries. But, you should have that same awareness with fixed battery mods. I know my old Aspire CF SubΩ mod was supposed to not fire below .3Ω but I was able to put a .19Ω topper on it and fire it just fine. So with the 4.2v I was using 20+ amps, not something that's all that safe with any battery but surely not a fixed battery setup. So safety is something we should be aware of as even these protective chips in the mods aren't necessarily going to prevent us from doing something dumb.
You don't need 200w, not at all honestly. I'm using my Haze Dripper Tank at 50-65w lately. I used my TFV4 up to 180w but honestly it was best in the 110-135w range. I've been using the XCubeII from Smok, and I like it well enough, some minor complaints (springs for the Batteries are a PITA and you need to be careful removing batteries otherwise it'll stretch or possibly rip the wrappers) but for the most part it's nice and fancy with that neat light bar and all the fun stuff you can integrate with your phone. And, not too expensive.
BUT, you can actually find 200w options or TC options all for around the same price or even cheaper than some more basic mods like say the Sigelei 150 is no cheaper than the Fuchai 200. Old mods haven't really dropped in price while the new ones come out at a competitive pricing to the old ones. So I'd say find one that you think you'll like and try to find the best pricing, 100w, 200w, TC, whatever they don't really determine prices that much.
I van vape the RX for 2 days on one set of batts, without recharging. I own both versions, the Reuleaux RX200, and the Reuleaux DNA200.
With the money you will save by buying the RX, invest in a charger, and 2 sets of batts.and forget about USB charging. If the Reuleaux is lightly discharged, I USB charge it at night. it balance charges, and in spite of all the fear mongers, it has yet to have a reported mishap so far.
You prolly don't need a 200 watt mod. I don't, but why not? If a mod can handle 200 watts, and you vape @ 40, that means your devie is less stressed than a 50 watt device running at 40 watts. FWIW.
With the money you will save by buying the RX, invest in a charger, and 2 sets of batts.and forget about USB charging. If the Reuleaux is lightly discharged, I USB charge it at night. it balance charges, and in spite of all the fear mongers, it has yet to have a reported mishap so far.
You prolly don't need a 200 watt mod. I don't, but why not? If a mod can handle 200 watts, and you vape @ 40, that means your devie is less stressed than a 50 watt device running at 40 watts. FWIW.
I can get the Reuleaux for around $50 with no batteries from a vape shop or $66 on eBay with 3 lg hg2 batteries and a efest Blu6 charger for around $40. I might just go with that.
You can get the Reuleaux for $40 right now from VapeNW
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Is there a difference between 10,20, or 30 amp batteries?
Yes. The HG2s are perfect for the RX, any more explanation on batts, would be better served by your typing than mine. lol There is no shortage of members here who will with best intentions, give you enough batt info, you will want to scream.
LG, Sony, and Samsung are the oinly brands you should ever consider buying.
LG, Sony, and Samsung are the oinly brands you should ever consider buying.
Yes, basically when you set a certain wattage and voltage it'll require a certain amperage from your battery. If your battery is not rated to continuously discharge that amperage that's when you're heading into pipebomb danger. Keep your build at something that is within the safety regulations.
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.asp
So my current build is .19Ω with a 4.2v battery (realistically it'll fire at 3.7-3.8 but always better to do the math on the extreme side to make sure things can't go bad). That results in a 22.11amp pull. If I were using 10amp batteries I'd be a walking time bomb. What I do use are 30A batteries (VTC4). Now, realistically we're being very cautious here and within the use of vaping pulse firing it for a few seconds a few times a minute, well a 20A battery would do me fine as it's been tested that pulse firing like that is not going to cause it to heat up too much, but it's still pushing the envelope and something that shouldn't be done. Why be risky when you can drop a couple dollars and grab better batteries. And again 10A batteries I wouldn't even think of trying.
Which is why so many people look down on the rewrap companies like Efest because you don't know what you're getting and gambling with these things is bad.
You might note that if you were to plug in the values people use with regulated mods that the amperage is beyond what the batteries can handle. That's the chips doing their thing.
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.asp
So my current build is .19Ω with a 4.2v battery (realistically it'll fire at 3.7-3.8 but always better to do the math on the extreme side to make sure things can't go bad). That results in a 22.11amp pull. If I were using 10amp batteries I'd be a walking time bomb. What I do use are 30A batteries (VTC4). Now, realistically we're being very cautious here and within the use of vaping pulse firing it for a few seconds a few times a minute, well a 20A battery would do me fine as it's been tested that pulse firing like that is not going to cause it to heat up too much, but it's still pushing the envelope and something that shouldn't be done. Why be risky when you can drop a couple dollars and grab better batteries. And again 10A batteries I wouldn't even think of trying.
Which is why so many people look down on the rewrap companies like Efest because you don't know what you're getting and gambling with these things is bad.
You might note that if you were to plug in the values people use with regulated mods that the amperage is beyond what the batteries can handle. That's the chips doing their thing.
Quick. Learn more.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/informative-battery-video.99261/
Please don't. We invite you to vape like an adult.
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How to Narrow Down a Search for a Mod:
1. List some mods that you see frequently in the Best of 2015 thread(s). Quite helpful.
2. Choose a price point and stick to it.
3. List your "deal killers." For example, anything with one battery or any mod without a juice channel.
4. Disregard companies because they've screwed too many people, or yourself. Or because of some random, irrational irritation... For example, I will never buy any iMod, any eMod, any mod with "fire" in its name or any mod from a company with flames in its logo. I will never acknowledge the existence of Asolo. Oh, and Kanger can suck it.
5. Take the remaining few and check the specs for anything that looks off. You might see one that only supports a certain TC wire and decide you don't want to get boxed in. Also do a VU search for them. I've run across a few contenders that people dumped on too often.
Are vapenw.com and liionwholesale.com US based sites? I made the mistake of ordering one straight from china and it took 4 months to come in the mail.
VapeNW is located in WA State...I ordered both my RX mods from them..
They were delivered three days from the day I placed the order via USPS ..I've ordered from them many times and will order from them again without hesitation... Personally I never order anything directly from China..but that's just me...
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You might like the new Kanger 200W box mod. Two 18650 batteries, and is apparently compatible with damn near every kind of coil (Kanthal, SS, Ni200, Ti, etc.) if you want the option. I've seen them online for $50-60. No idea if they're worth a damn or not (at least a Kanger mod won't leak everywhere...) but they seem amusing enough with the power and options available. For that price I might try one myself as the Sigelei 150W TC doesn't support titanium coils.
Rechargeable batteries can be a pain in the ass if you have to wait for them to charge, but if you get two pairs you can always have one ready to swap out. Plus, if you're running normally and not chain vaping well over 100 watts all day, you shouldn't be having to replace them all the time. I go pretty hard most of the day at 80W with an 0.25 ohm coil, and two 18650s will last about two days, maybe into a third.
Rechargeable batteries can be a pain in the ass if you have to wait for them to charge, but if you get two pairs you can always have one ready to swap out. Plus, if you're running normally and not chain vaping well over 100 watts all day, you shouldn't be having to replace them all the time. I go pretty hard most of the day at 80W with an 0.25 ohm coil, and two 18650s will last about two days, maybe into a third.
So are there no car chargers for 18650s? I guess you could keep a spare charger and plug into a converter. As of right now I'm seriously considering the Reuleaux. Been doing some reading on it and seems to be a good solid option. As far as temp control though I cant say I'd like it or not so I'm going to throw that on the want list because I'll probably try it one day. Gonna check out the Fuchai and Kanger 200w before I make my final decision. I'm not willing to spend $100 on just a mod alone right now so those 3 are at my preferred price point.
Mine works as a car charger. Efest SODA. $20.
I'm also looking at the build quality for the money.
http://liionwholesale.com/collectio...tery-charger-w-car-adapter?variant=1126447468
Has the car adapter.
http://liionwholesale.com/collections/chargers/products/efest-luc-car-adapter?variant=1088084964
+
http://liionwholesale.com/collectio...y-li-ion-battery-charger-1?variant=1306356856
For a cheaper combo.
But you may be able to shop around and find better prices, just always remember to factor in shipping, figure you'll be getting some batteries from these guys anyways so it's a null addition for shipping.
Liionwholesale is based in Pennsylvania I believe, took about a week IIRC to get my last order. I only order from china when it's a smoking deal (like some clone toppers that are 1/10 the price) Gearbest is the worst I've ordered from, Fasttech was anything but fast, 3fvape though was surprisingly fast. But yes batteries from china will spend extra time in customs... and if they do what they did to me they come unpacked clanking around because they couldn't be bothered to repackage them correctly...
Has the car adapter.
http://liionwholesale.com/collections/chargers/products/efest-luc-car-adapter?variant=1088084964
+
http://liionwholesale.com/collectio...y-li-ion-battery-charger-1?variant=1306356856
For a cheaper combo.
But you may be able to shop around and find better prices, just always remember to factor in shipping, figure you'll be getting some batteries from these guys anyways so it's a null addition for shipping.
Liionwholesale is based in Pennsylvania I believe, took about a week IIRC to get my last order. I only order from china when it's a smoking deal (like some clone toppers that are 1/10 the price) Gearbest is the worst I've ordered from, Fasttech was anything but fast, 3fvape though was surprisingly fast. But yes batteries from china will spend extra time in customs... and if they do what they did to me they come unpacked clanking around because they couldn't be bothered to repackage them correctly...
Not only that but because the rx200 uses series the batteries will need to be rotated.
Yes there is.
When using a higher wattage device or a mechanical device you are pulling more amps thus you will need a battery that can handle that.If not you will risk damage to the battery the mod your hand and face.
You won't be you'll be getting the mod + batteries + charger and you'll spend a tad under/over $100 depending on where you shop.
In the long run it'll be way worth the cost.
I just got a Cool Fire 4 a few months back and it's already on it's last legs as it will not charge above 60% capacity.
I think the Innokin Cortex is what you are looking for....
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin-Cortex-80W-TC-iSub-S-Kit-p/ink-cor.htm
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin-Cortex-80W-TC-iSub-S-Kit-p/ink-cor.htm
I missed your reply before I suggested the inokin.
Looks alright better deal below.
http://www.efun.top/innokin-cortex-...html?mw_aref=7514e9c19f8144d076a81176f7d085d4
EDIT : PLEASE NOTE I'M JUST LISTING A BETTER DEAL I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE CORTEX WORKS
Gonna be between the Fuchai Subox and Reuleaux. Anybody have the Fuchai or Subox?
Kbox 200w I'm sorry.
www.illumn.com for batteries! Great prices, fast service, batteries come packaged in cases. Another option is 101vape, they are having a blowout sale this weekend and i found some pretty good prices. Both are US and reputable vendors I've had good experience with.
Snow wolf vs rx200 any thoughts
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Don't have the SnowWolf but I do have the RX200 and love it..in fact at only $49 it has been one of the best mods I've vaped in a long time...can't go wrong with a RX200
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Dna200 or the reg?? What's the real advantages to pay a extra 100$ is it worth it
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I think the extra $100 is for the DNA chip
that can be customized on a computer using Escribe or something like that..someone maybe will chime in with more info..
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My rambelings from another thread somewhere..
I have both the Reuleaux RX200, and the Reuleaux DNA200.
My advice? Never ask a vaper if their Reuleaux is an RX200, or a DNA200.
If they have an RX, they'll tell you. If they have the DNA, don't embarass them for spending so much extra.
I think the RX will be many's primary mod. It will be the one you vape on, while you spend hours fiddeling with Escribe trying to make the DNA work almost as well.
It will be the mod you use, as you are leaving the house and remember that you forgot to charge the batts overnight, and the one you are still vaping hard on when you get home at the end of the day.
It will be the one that is still sitting upright on the table with an atty on it, surrounded by its fallen comrades when your puppy bashes into the table trying to retrieve its Flatcat (Hartz TM) dog toy, after a bad throw on your part.
It will be the one you clench tightly in your fist while kinetically re-educating the pickup driver who nearly ran you over in the crosswalk, and thought it was a good idea to stop and yell at you and give YOU the finger.....
I have both the Reuleaux RX200, and the Reuleaux DNA200.
My advice? Never ask a vaper if their Reuleaux is an RX200, or a DNA200.
If they have an RX, they'll tell you. If they have the DNA, don't embarass them for spending so much extra.
I think the RX will be many's primary mod. It will be the one you vape on, while you spend hours fiddeling with Escribe trying to make the DNA work almost as well.
It will be the mod you use, as you are leaving the house and remember that you forgot to charge the batts overnight, and the one you are still vaping hard on when you get home at the end of the day.
It will be the one that is still sitting upright on the table with an atty on it, surrounded by its fallen comrades when your puppy bashes into the table trying to retrieve its Flatcat (Hartz TM) dog toy, after a bad throw on your part.
It will be the one you clench tightly in your fist while kinetically re-educating the pickup driver who nearly ran you over in the crosswalk, and thought it was a good idea to stop and yell at you and give YOU the finger.....