If I take direct to lung, its fine until the end.

[conanthewarrior]

I tried some direct to lung hits just to see the difference in clouds, and at first it worked fine.

Now, at the end of my 3-4 second pull, it starts hurting my throat. I don't know if its getting hotter or something.

I am using ego batteries and a Protank Mini 2.

I was thinking maybe its Something to do with the battery also? I'm new so still don't know what will cause what, and also have memory/action issues due to some brain damage aquired last year, so sorry if its a bit of a newbie question.

Thanks in advance, Conan.

 

[madmonkey]

Hey bud, I saw your other threads and posts...

It's not something you need to apologize for asking, never apologize for seeking knowledge about anything and I am sorry to hear about your injury

To answer your question....the coil in that little mini protank is tiny and gets hot really fast but because if it's size it really doesn't have the ability to provide the amount of vapor provided to do true straight lung hits and it might be a bit warm for your throat and burning it a bit.

If you want to lung hit off a little tank like that you kind of have to cheap by sucking in air out the corner of your mouth while inhaling the vapor from your tank, it takes a little practice to get the balance of the two right but the air you're sucking in with it will help keep the vapor cool and hopefully help your throat feel better after you're done inhaling. It will also give the appearance and feeling of a little more vapor than just straight mouth to lung inhales..

hope this helps...happy vaping and cheers

 

[dave/jayce]

Well done and said @madmonkey......
I'll add that not get get caught up in creating huge clouds. I see way too mAny ppl these days, mainly kids, yes kids just wanting to blow clouds. They don't care what they use, how to use it properly, how much it cost or if it is even for them. In your other thread you mentioned your in it for the flavor. I feel you lose out on flavor when you "lung hit". Funny thing is this is how I vape

 

[Doots]

Ive been vaping 7 years and still just like and love mouth to lung.. better flavor that I can savor..

 

[Hey! it's just Ray...]

It's like waving your fingers over a lighter flame. First couple times, no problem.

 

[Zamazam]

Protanks aren't designed for large volumes of vapor for lung hits. It might be hurting your throat because the vapor is getting "dry" the last few seconds as the eliquid in the tank can't get to the coils fast enough to get vaporized, ie: a dry hit. The issue has nothing to to with the battery. If you want to do lung hits, look at another rig such as a Kanger Kbox and a Kanger mini sub tank, or Kanger plus sub tank. They were designed to produce lots of vapor, from mouth to lung on the smallest air flow setting, to a wide open lung hit with the airflow wide open.

In the end, use what make you happy and keeps you off the smokes.

 

[John C]

Guys, could it be his nicotine level? Maybe since he is getting so much more vapor on one hit, it's higher nicotine, therefore more throat hit/burning?

 

[dave/jayce]

Guys, could it be his nicotine level? Maybe since he is getting so much more vapor on one hit, it's higher nicotine, therefore more throat hit/burning?

I believe he is at zero nic, got that from another thread

 

[conanthewarrior]

Hi people, I was just messing around trying the direct lung hits/mouth to lung, mouth to lung seems to get me more flavour. It's not something I plan on doing all the time, I just am doing this really to enjoy the flavours available, using zero nic I stopped the real cigs 8 months ago.

 

[John C]

Hi people, I was just messing around trying the direct lung hits/mouth to lung, mouth to lung seems to get me more flavour. It's not something I plan on doing all the time, I just am doing this really to enjoy the flavours available, using zero nic I stopped the real cigs 8 months ago.

I 100% agree. I mouth-to-lung 80% of the time because i get much more flavor and enjoyment out of it. And I never was a smoker so its not out of habit. Actually I french inhale for mouth-to-lung hits. To me, you get every nuance of the flavor. Although I do sometimes enjoy the large gulp (lung hit)!

 

[Zamazam]

Hi people, I was just messing around trying the direct lung hits/mouth to lung, mouth to lung seems to get me more flavour. It's not something I plan on doing all the time, I just am doing this really to enjoy the flavours available, using zero nic I stopped the real cigs 8 months ago.

I am really cool with that. However doing lung hits from an ego tank setup poses it's own set of issues, which you encountered.

 

[Woodsman]

A light steady draw is best for your setup. If you want clouds, use max VG in an RDA.

 

[Woodsman]

I tried some direct to lung hits just to see the difference in clouds, and at first it worked fine.

Now, at the end of my 3-4 second pull, it starts hurting my throat. I don't know if its getting hotter or something.

I am using ego batteries and a Protank Mini 2.

I was thinking maybe its Something to do with the battery also? I'm new so still don't know what will cause what, and also have memory/action issues due to some brain damage aquired last year, so sorry if its a bit of a newbie question.

Thanks in advance, Conan.

That Protank 2 is definitely meant for a light steady draw. It doesn't have air holes to allow for a strong draw. You likely sucked your wick dry and burned your coil.
The world of vaping has many paths and must be traveled carefully. If you have access to a vape store, you will save yourself many wrong turns.

 

[Mike H.]

With a good home made coil on a protank style tank and the Kanger V3 airflow controller you can take 15 second (what i call) slow and steady lung hits...I do it all the time on my set up with a 1.2ohm single coil ,and this is with 11 watts.

The V3 air flow controller was never an option on an Aerotank...the V3 is what was used on the kanger Geni tanks but fit all the larger protanks and protank 2's...There is also a mini version of the v3 that fit the protank and protank2 mini.

None of the aero tank version flow controllers are even close or as precise in control as the V3

Unfortunately the kanger coils have a small firing pin hole which air is drawn through so you can have airflow controller holes the size of a 12 sub woofer and there is still only so much air you can draw because of the pin.

You can however drill this pin out slightly (as ive done) and it does help but ,its still considered a restrictive lung hitter.

 

[conanthewarrior]

I am really cool with that. However doing lung hits from an ego tank setup poses it's own set of issues, which you encountered.

I know that now . I have people like you and others who are on here who can help out people like me . I may waffle a bit sometimes or have memory issues, but thats part of the damage unfortunately.

 

[conanthewarrior]

That Protank 2 is definitely meant for a light steady draw. It doesn't have air holes to allow for a strong draw. You likely sucked your wick dry and burned your coil.
The world of vaping has many paths and must be traveled carefully. If you have access to a vape store, you will save yourself many wrong turns.

Hi, Unfortunatly I live in the UK and there is no actual brick and mortar vape stores I know of near me, I will be ordering all my upgrades from a UK based online shop. I didn't draw for any longer than I would doing mouth to lung, I just sucked it straight down instead of first holding it in my mouth. Do same length direct to lung use up more juice than standard mouth to lung? I have a lot to learn in this new (to me) vaping world.

 

[Woodsman]

Hi, Unfortunatly I live in the UK and there is no actual brick and mortar vape stores I know of near me, I will be ordering all my upgrades from a UK based online shop. I didn't draw for any longer than I would doing mouth to lung, I just sucked it straight down instead of first holding it in my mouth. Do same length direct to lung use up more juice than standard mouth to lung? I have a lot to learn in this new (to me) vaping world.

Direct to lung with an RDA uses up quite a bit of juice. I can vape all day on my Smok ADC at 3.2 to 3.5 volts and use less than 2ml of juice. I can go through 2ml with my Hobo RDA in twenty? big draws. NOTE: I just tried a long direct lung hit on my ADC. It didn't taste burnt, but it did feel harsh toward the end.
As for no access to a vape shop, I'm in the same boat. As a result, I ended up spending a lot on gear. I've found what works for me, and the rest of my gear I'll set aside or sell (already sold $200 worth on eBay).
So...just trying to save you a few dollars, and unless you WANT to become a "collector", to help keep your gear down to a few pieces that work for you. It's not easy finding the right setup. There's just TOO MUCH information, and too many choices!
My advice is to stay away from the high watts craze. It's not necessary. Your Mini Protank 2 is fine. Buy the airflow base and you'll like it better: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Kanger-Airflow-Control-2-0-Mini-p/krac-mi.htm
And...what I've concluded about Kanger coils is that they like at least 50%PG juice due to the small wick holes. So, when you buy juice, choose 50/50. If you want to go higher on the VG, shift to the Smok ADC with Micro Core-A coils.
I'm repeating myself here, but I have some RDAs and some 28 gauge Ni200 wire that I wrap around a 3mm screwdriver (RIP Trippers youtube Ni200 build shows you how) and vape with a Hana Modz DNA40 at 420 degrees F at 25 watts. I use a lot of juice and blow some clouds, and I do it safely. I could be doing the same with Kanthal wire and a mechanical mod, but I like temperature control. Nevertheless, IF I had to choose a couple pieces of gear to keep, I would keep my Provari Mini and my Smok GDC (see youtube below) and my Provape-1 and my Smok ADC. I also have some EGO batteries, and I would be happy enough with EGO batteries and my Smok ADC set at 3.2 to 3.4 volts.