Vaping_Orchard
Member For 2 Years
So let's talk this witch hunt that is going on against vaping and the vape community. The very first thing I will say is people are so gullible these days they read an article online and they immediately think it's true. " Well it must be...it's on the internet" or "Well it's from CNN or FOX or FDA" And that's with anything, not just vaping
Second, no one has ever claimed that there is zero harm in vaping. What we are saying is it is without a doubt much safer then smoking cigarettes. How many thousands of carcinogens are in a single cigarette? How much tar? Vaping is the safer alternative of the two. And the FDA wants to take away my right to choose to Vape? While it still being OK to buy cigarettes? Now how does that make any sense? That’s like making a law saying that when the traction on your tires reaches under 70 percent you have to change them. Oh but it's ok to run them if they are 10 percent or below. That makes absolutely no sense...does it. Trying to take away my right to do something safer, but saying I can still do the more dangerous option.
Now let's talk misleading articles. Pictures of "Vapes" blowing up. Bloody faces...pants on fire...holes in legs...and a guy dying from shrapnel into the brain. Eliquid flavors (specifically diacetyl) causing "popcorn lung). The Vapes that I've seen articles saying that blow up all show pictures of regulated mods. That is misleading. Mechanical mods are the most basic device you can get. They have no internal circuit boards. Mechanical mods draw straight from the charge of the battery with no "fuse" per se to stop or shut down if the load becomes to much for the battery. But let’s be real…there are a ton of warning signs before a battery is going to “blow up”. If your mod becomes hotter then usual...if it makes any funny noises…push button and nothing happens. Don’t be one of these tools who gets a paper towel or towel and wraps around his Mech because it’s to hot. And don’t put your mod into your pocket if you have change or keys in it. You have to have a little common sense. The article I read showed a picture of a regulated device with a young girl vaping it and the headline said” e-cigarette that all the kids are using explodes killing a man” Again, misleading. The picture was of a regulated device. And THOSE are what the majority of vapors use. Most vape shops won't even sell you one unless you have knowledge of Ohms law and prove to them you do. If you know what your doing and have a proper understanding of ohms law and just have some common sense, they aren’t dangerous.
Now popcorn lung...there were some companies using a VERY SMALL amount of diacetyl in flavoring. However most Eliquid manufacturers refuse to make or stores carry any Eliquid containing diacetyl. As you should be somewhat concerned what you are putting into your body, so research your Eliquid. You can get an ingredients list from most all the reputable Eliquid manufacturers to see what's in your Eliquid. Let's also point out that all those people who died or had lung problems from that popcorn factory...were inhaling powder form of diacetyl. And it took years. Let's also point out there is 100 times more diacetyl in a cigarette.
Now let's talk about second hand vapor. When I vape...I have courtesy for others. I don't blow my vape toward them. But..again this has been proven...that the vapor is just that. Vapor. It's no different then a fog machine or a humidifier you may have in your home. Again..tested and proven. Do some of that research we talked about. You will find it online.
How about this whole flavor ban thing? Isn’t that a crock. Saying it targets children? So adults arnt allowed to want to have strawberry or banana flavored Eliquid? Yet we have strawberry banana daiquiris and wine coolers. Flavored beer and cigarettes. Oh yes…flavored cigarettes. Where is the uproar for that? I started smoking when I was 14. If a kid wants to smoke he/she is going to smoke. Period. Which would you rather have your child do? Yes…I agree…none. I have three teenagers and I would rather have them neither, But if behind my back, as my 17 year old son did, while all his friends were smoking he was vaping. He took one of my devices while I was asleep and tried it. He said it was either that or cigarettes. I ground him and told him that was not ok, but between the two….and that when he is 18 if he so chooses to still want to do something then he can vape. Now don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying it’s ok for kids to vape. I’m saying if they are going to do one or the other. Which would you rather have? And taking away flavors is basically insuring EVERYONE goes to or back to smoking cigarettes. Oh, and the three friends my son was with. They all smoke cigarettes. They had a vape available and they didn’t want it. They chose the cigarette. So this “vaping is a gateway” is a crock. I believe if they take away flavors it will drive more people to smoking. So trying to take away a safer alternative and leave the most dangerous one. Smart move FDA. Another $$$ thing.
Now for one I have researched and I DO believe is not great for you. Inhaling wet condensation into your lungs. That cannot be healthy. Can it kill you? Nothing has been found or linked to it. But that's 1 thing compared to how much goes into your lungs from a cigarette? Remember vaping is the safer alternative to smoking. So many people ask me when they see my vape do you think that is safe? I don't ever recall hearing anyone push that vaping is the absolutely safe. You are inhaling condensation into your lungs. You are still getting Nicotine which raises blood pressure among other things. But of were going to get into everything that might raise your blood pressure including food...we would be here all week. Vaping is the safer alternative to smoking. I used vaping to quit smoking. But it should be my choice if I want to continue vaping. If I can make that choice to go onto a store and buy cigarettes, chewing tobacco, beer, and the millions of over loaded foods containing the biggest poison of all....sugar...then I sure as hell should have the right to vape.
Second, no one has ever claimed that there is zero harm in vaping. What we are saying is it is without a doubt much safer then smoking cigarettes. How many thousands of carcinogens are in a single cigarette? How much tar? Vaping is the safer alternative of the two. And the FDA wants to take away my right to choose to Vape? While it still being OK to buy cigarettes? Now how does that make any sense? That’s like making a law saying that when the traction on your tires reaches under 70 percent you have to change them. Oh but it's ok to run them if they are 10 percent or below. That makes absolutely no sense...does it. Trying to take away my right to do something safer, but saying I can still do the more dangerous option.
Now let's talk misleading articles. Pictures of "Vapes" blowing up. Bloody faces...pants on fire...holes in legs...and a guy dying from shrapnel into the brain. Eliquid flavors (specifically diacetyl) causing "popcorn lung). The Vapes that I've seen articles saying that blow up all show pictures of regulated mods. That is misleading. Mechanical mods are the most basic device you can get. They have no internal circuit boards. Mechanical mods draw straight from the charge of the battery with no "fuse" per se to stop or shut down if the load becomes to much for the battery. But let’s be real…there are a ton of warning signs before a battery is going to “blow up”. If your mod becomes hotter then usual...if it makes any funny noises…push button and nothing happens. Don’t be one of these tools who gets a paper towel or towel and wraps around his Mech because it’s to hot. And don’t put your mod into your pocket if you have change or keys in it. You have to have a little common sense. The article I read showed a picture of a regulated device with a young girl vaping it and the headline said” e-cigarette that all the kids are using explodes killing a man” Again, misleading. The picture was of a regulated device. And THOSE are what the majority of vapors use. Most vape shops won't even sell you one unless you have knowledge of Ohms law and prove to them you do. If you know what your doing and have a proper understanding of ohms law and just have some common sense, they aren’t dangerous.
Now popcorn lung...there were some companies using a VERY SMALL amount of diacetyl in flavoring. However most Eliquid manufacturers refuse to make or stores carry any Eliquid containing diacetyl. As you should be somewhat concerned what you are putting into your body, so research your Eliquid. You can get an ingredients list from most all the reputable Eliquid manufacturers to see what's in your Eliquid. Let's also point out that all those people who died or had lung problems from that popcorn factory...were inhaling powder form of diacetyl. And it took years. Let's also point out there is 100 times more diacetyl in a cigarette.
Now let's talk about second hand vapor. When I vape...I have courtesy for others. I don't blow my vape toward them. But..again this has been proven...that the vapor is just that. Vapor. It's no different then a fog machine or a humidifier you may have in your home. Again..tested and proven. Do some of that research we talked about. You will find it online.
How about this whole flavor ban thing? Isn’t that a crock. Saying it targets children? So adults arnt allowed to want to have strawberry or banana flavored Eliquid? Yet we have strawberry banana daiquiris and wine coolers. Flavored beer and cigarettes. Oh yes…flavored cigarettes. Where is the uproar for that? I started smoking when I was 14. If a kid wants to smoke he/she is going to smoke. Period. Which would you rather have your child do? Yes…I agree…none. I have three teenagers and I would rather have them neither, But if behind my back, as my 17 year old son did, while all his friends were smoking he was vaping. He took one of my devices while I was asleep and tried it. He said it was either that or cigarettes. I ground him and told him that was not ok, but between the two….and that when he is 18 if he so chooses to still want to do something then he can vape. Now don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying it’s ok for kids to vape. I’m saying if they are going to do one or the other. Which would you rather have? And taking away flavors is basically insuring EVERYONE goes to or back to smoking cigarettes. Oh, and the three friends my son was with. They all smoke cigarettes. They had a vape available and they didn’t want it. They chose the cigarette. So this “vaping is a gateway” is a crock. I believe if they take away flavors it will drive more people to smoking. So trying to take away a safer alternative and leave the most dangerous one. Smart move FDA. Another $$$ thing.
Now for one I have researched and I DO believe is not great for you. Inhaling wet condensation into your lungs. That cannot be healthy. Can it kill you? Nothing has been found or linked to it. But that's 1 thing compared to how much goes into your lungs from a cigarette? Remember vaping is the safer alternative to smoking. So many people ask me when they see my vape do you think that is safe? I don't ever recall hearing anyone push that vaping is the absolutely safe. You are inhaling condensation into your lungs. You are still getting Nicotine which raises blood pressure among other things. But of were going to get into everything that might raise your blood pressure including food...we would be here all week. Vaping is the safer alternative to smoking. I used vaping to quit smoking. But it should be my choice if I want to continue vaping. If I can make that choice to go onto a store and buy cigarettes, chewing tobacco, beer, and the millions of over loaded foods containing the biggest poison of all....sugar...then I sure as hell should have the right to vape.