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http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/29/m...study-claiming-e-cigarettes-can-cause-cancer/
"The paper argues traditional cigarettes have already been identified as a risk factor in contracting this disease. To test whether e-cigarettes could also be a risk factor, the team created a vapor extract from two popular e-cigarette brands — V2 and VaporF — and used it to “treat human cells in a petri dish.”
Wonderful!, the "cells in a petri dish" experiment again.
I would be interested to know if things like piss or spit killed the cells if you poured it on top of them in a small dish in the lab as well.
Things like this wouldn't have supported their agenda (funding source for "more" studies) though. - 5150
Even the researchers are balking at the idea that this means vaping causes cancer:
"The press release accompanying the study states that one of the lead researchers, Dr. Jessica Wang-Rodriguez, “notes that cells in the lab are not completely comparable to cells within a living person. The cells lines that scientists work with have been ‘immortalized because of certain cell changes.’ So it could be that e-cigarette vapor has different effects than those seen in the lab.”
Not only may the effect on cells be entirely different in a real world environment, but the press release concedes that “her team didn't seek to mimic the actual dose of vapor that an e-cigarette user would get.”
“In this particular study, it was similar to someone smoking continuously for hours on end, so it’s a higher amount than would normally be delivered,” said Wang-Rodriguez. So in no way does the study reflect how e-cigarettes are used by vapers in the real world."
I often wonder if "in no way does the study reflect how e-cigarettes are used by vapers in the real world" then why the fuck would they waste your (the taxpayers) money doing a study of no scientific value to start with?
This goes Back to the funding & agendas again I guess? - 5150
"The paper argues traditional cigarettes have already been identified as a risk factor in contracting this disease. To test whether e-cigarettes could also be a risk factor, the team created a vapor extract from two popular e-cigarette brands — V2 and VaporF — and used it to “treat human cells in a petri dish.”
Wonderful!, the "cells in a petri dish" experiment again.
I would be interested to know if things like piss or spit killed the cells if you poured it on top of them in a small dish in the lab as well.
Things like this wouldn't have supported their agenda (funding source for "more" studies) though. - 5150
Even the researchers are balking at the idea that this means vaping causes cancer:
"The press release accompanying the study states that one of the lead researchers, Dr. Jessica Wang-Rodriguez, “notes that cells in the lab are not completely comparable to cells within a living person. The cells lines that scientists work with have been ‘immortalized because of certain cell changes.’ So it could be that e-cigarette vapor has different effects than those seen in the lab.”
Not only may the effect on cells be entirely different in a real world environment, but the press release concedes that “her team didn't seek to mimic the actual dose of vapor that an e-cigarette user would get.”
“In this particular study, it was similar to someone smoking continuously for hours on end, so it’s a higher amount than would normally be delivered,” said Wang-Rodriguez. So in no way does the study reflect how e-cigarettes are used by vapers in the real world."
I often wonder if "in no way does the study reflect how e-cigarettes are used by vapers in the real world" then why the fuck would they waste your (the taxpayers) money doing a study of no scientific value to start with?
This goes Back to the funding & agendas again I guess? - 5150