Need some help (because I'm an idiot)

[burgundyblack]

I have one of the Hana clones. Great mod. I managed to break off an 808/901 adapter in the connection area. I can't get it out, thus rendering the mod useless. I've tried loosening it by rotating it with a screwdriver and tweezers (not my first rodeo with breaking off part of an atty) and the damn thing won't come out. I was wondering if anyone had any advice or tricks that had worked for them.

Thanks.

 

[CaFF]

Hmm, could you define "break off"? A pic would help.

Can you grab it with a pair of needle-nose pliers or is the pin stuck in there?
Usually, you can use a rubber band, pencil eraser or some silly putty to work it out.

 

[Ace]

My 1st thought was use a carrot like the old potato/light bulb thing.

 

[burgundyblack]

Hmm, could you define "break off"? A pic would help.

Can you grab it with a pair of needle-nose pliers or is the pin stuck in there?
Usually, you can use a rubber band, pencil eraser or some silly putty to work it out.

It is actually stuck around the edge, and not the center/connection itself. I'm trying to attach a picture but I can't get the file size small enough to let me do it. What's this silly putty trick you're talking about?

 

[burgundyblack]

My 1st thought was use a carrot like the old potato/light bulb thing.

how would the carrot work? I'll give anything a shot.

 

[Dutzy]

Push the carrot in gently until it bites into your fitting and try twisting it out.

 

[burgundyblack]

Push the carrot in gently until it bites into your fitting and try twisting it out.

That sounds like a damn good idea. I'll get some baby carrots and try that.

 

[UncleRJ]

Good Lord!

I will wait to see if any of the other ideas work until I submit my drastic ones.

 

[Newtsche]

A pic will no doubt get a solution.

Without one, a couple ideas. Understanding you may not have enough depth in the busted piece, an Easy Out (sp?) screw/bolt/stud extractor. It threads into a center hole and is reverse threaded. As it screws in, it unscrews the offending busted piece.

Alternative possibility, JB Weld. If a piece can be fitted inside the busted piece, the bond should be strong enough to allow screwing out whole thing as one.

 

[CaFF]

It is actually stuck around the edge, and not the center/connection itself. I'm trying to attach a picture but I can't get the file size small enough to let me do it. What's this silly putty trick you're talking about?

Upload here, then you can post it using their BBcode IMG tags. Just copy 'n paste into your post.

http://imgur.com/

 

[UncleRJ]

A pic will no doubt get a solution.

Without one, a couple ideas. Understanding you may not have enough depth in the busted piece, an Easy Out (sp?) screw/bolt/stud extractor. It threads into a center hole and is reverse threaded. As it screws in, it unscrews the offending busted piece.

Alternative possibility, JB Weld. If a piece can be fitted inside the busted piece, the bond should be strong enough to allow screwing out whole thing as one.

I totally agree! If using the JB weld, give it double or triple the time to set just to make sure of the bond. You are pretty much only getting one chance at this.

 

[burgundyblack]

Okay, so here are some of the pictures. I finally figured out how to take a smaller picture than 1MB. First time having to do that. The top view is a little blurry, but it shows the center unobstructed. The side view gives a clearer view of the offending piece. I really appreciate all this help.

 

[UncleRJ]

Thinking JB weld with an upside down screw (head down, the part with the slot for the screwdriver bit) and filled with JB. Then let sit for double the amount of time recommended for it to set just to be sure.

Then take some vice grips, latch onto the protruding threads and unscrew the offending adapter.

But wait a bit to see if some better advice is offered.

 

[burgundyblack]

Thinking JB weld with an upside down screw (head down, the part with the slot for the screwdriver bit) and filled with JB. Then let sit for double the amount of time recommended for it to set just to be sure.

Then take some vice grips, latch onto the protruding threads and unscrew the offending adapter.

But wait a bit to see if some better advice is offered.

Thank you for the advice and the guidance on it as well.

 

[Newtsche]

I guess the bottom of what I'm seeing is what's left of the busted piece? If so, yeah, JB Weld -- a two part epoxy, easily found. Don't use so much it squishes up and out the sides, bonding to the mod's connector too. If some does, wipe off all excess as best possible, should be good to go.

Easier if it would work, a straight blade screwdriver wide enough to wedge down in there. I know you've tried a screwdriver but getting just the right size could work. If tight enough, should be enough friction to back out the piece. If wedged too tight, it would warp the piece and just create more friction.

 

[CaFF]

Thinking JB weld with an upside down screw (head down, the part with the slot for the screwdriver bit) and filled with JB. Then let sit for double the amount of time recommended for it to set just to be sure.

Then take some vice grips, latch onto the protruding threads and unscrew the offending adapter.

But wait a bit to see if some better advice is offered.

Wow, that's really messed.

The problem with that is, if he gets the JB on anything but the offending part...it'll REALLY be there forever.

I don't have any good ideas...I didn't even know you could break a 510 like that.

 

[burgundyblack]

I guess the bottom of what I'm seeing is what's left of the busted piece? If so, yeah, JB Weld -- a two part epoxy, easily found. Don't use so much it squishes up and out the sides, bonding to the mod's connector too. If some does, wipe off all excess as best possible, should be good to go.

Easier if it would work, a straight blade screwdriver wide enough to wedge down in there. I know you've tried a screwdriver but getting just the right size could work. If tight enough, should be enough friction to back out the piece. If wedged too tight, it would warp the piece and just create more friction.

I'm gathering that the JB Weld is sort of a nuclear option but it may be my only one at this point. I guess I could go buy the smallest flat head I can find and see if I can get it down there.

 

[burgundyblack]

Wow, that's really messed.

The problem with that is, if she gets the JB on anything but the offending part...it'll REALLY be there forever.

I don't have any good ideas...I didn't even know you could break a 510 like that.

Yeah, I really manged to screw this one up. Then again I've had friends and family say "if there's a new way to break something, Josh will find it." This applies to injuring myself as well.

 

[UncleRJ]

Wow, that's really messed.

The problem with that is, if she gets the JB on anything but the offending part...it'll REALLY be there forever.

I don't have any good ideas...I didn't even know you could break a 510 like that.

There are some really cheap assed adapter floating around that will break if you look at them wrong.

Sadly you don't know until you have one and it breaks!

 

[Newtsche]

I'm gathering that the JB Weld is sort of a nuclear option but it may be my only one at this point. I guess I could go buy the smallest flat head I can find and see if I can get it down there.

Not that scary. If you go that way, mix up a little and play with it to see what you're dealing with. I'd suggest find a machine screw with a flat bottom that's slightly smaller than the opening. If you put a small glob of JB Weld in the bottom, it'll push up a little surrounding the machine screw. Like I said, if too much comes up, you'd be able to remove the excess. Make sure both the screw and the busted piece are well cleaned first. As UncleRJ says, wait longer rather than shorter. Once it's set up, don't just put full force on from the get go. See if it will budge first and proceed slowly.

 

[burgundyblack]

I've got the remains of the adapter that broke. Would it make sense to coat the sides of that adapter (where the break occurred) then place it in and use it to pull it out?

 

[burgundyblack]

There are some really cheap assed adapter floating around that will break if you look at them wrong.

Sadly you don't know until you have one and it breaks!

To further your point the drop that busted that adapter wasn't even that bad.

 

[Saratoga Joe]

Take it to your auto mechanic or local auto parts store. They will be able to help. With your history, JB Weld will be a disaster.

 

[burgundyblack]

Take it to your auto mechanic or local auto parts store. They will be able to help. With your history, JB Weld will be a disaster.

Hadn't thought of an auto parts shop. Thanks.

 

[UncleRJ]

Active swearing can also help!

 

[Saratoga Joe]

They sell Easy Outs (screw/bolt extractors).

 

[burgundyblack]

Active swearing can also help!

There had been an abundance of swearing. I've called that damn adapter every word in the book.

 

[burgundyblack]

They sell Easy Outs (screw/bolt extractors).

I did intend to take a look at an Easy Out before proceeding. Thanks again.

 

[out for dilivery]

plumbers trick, going to have to cut old threading 2 places couple mm apart with hobby knife,may break a couple blades,dremel,what ever it takes,get the mm out ,then collapse the rest, pull out, pins,ice pick lot of small stuff ,probably just brass or pot metal ,should cut fairly easy,if 510 gets cut a little no biggie at least u got it out!

 

[GrumpyEd]

go to hardware/tool store get a cheapo easy out. grind the tip down till it fits snug. then just back it out. only other option is a machine shop

 

[HDMontana]

Maybe get a left hand drill bit. It drill the opposite way of a standard bit. Get one slightly smaller than opening, (would suggest taking mod with you for sizing), a turn with a pair of pliers. Similar to an ez out, but would not have to grind it down.