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Been vaping a long time and wanna add a mech to the collection. I vape from .07-.4 and from 50-100 watts depending on the rda/rta. Looking for some recommendations for a mech mod that would suit me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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Been vaping a long time and wanna add a mech to the collection. I vape from .07-.4 and from 50-100 watts depending on the rda/rta. Looking for some recommendations for a mech mod that would suit me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thinking about a Mech, read this and judge to see if you're ready.

1.Ohm's law, http://www.steam-engine.org/ makes it easy and there's even an app on it for Android

2.Batteries, fucking batteries, take good care of your batteries and know them!!!!!!!

a.Avoid shit batteries like eFest who rewrap rejects with grossly inflated amp ratings. Stick with authentic LG, Sony or Samsung from reputable (not eBay or Amazon) sources, great places that I get authentics from are -

http://liionwholesale.com/

https://www.imrbatteries.com/

b.Stick well within Continuous Discharge Rate (CDR) Not the "pulse"

c.Keep up to date with what Mooch tests and battery ratings, follow his posts on Facebook and his Blog and only use his recommend batteries.

d.In Mod's with multiple batteries, marry them.

e.Get some battery wraps, they're cheap and easy to re-wrap batteries. Any nicks,tears or what ever don't be stupid and just re-wrap.

3.Don't build stupid low a good builder can chuck and get awesome dense vape from a good build. It's simple, with 20 CDR Amp batteries -

a.Single battery mod's you're fine with .2 ohms on up

b.Dual Parallel you're fine with .15 on up. Parallel you take the full CDR of one battery then add 1/2 the CDR of the next battery

c.Series you double the voltage but you share the amps . So a series you build high with a lot of wire mass no lower that .4 ohms.

4.Make sure you don't have any shorts. For an extra caution any new build I will vape on a regulated mod for a few drips or with a tank about a 1/4 tank. This is to insure nothing wonky with my build like shorts.

5.Careful if it's not in your hand, if it doesn't have a lock on the button and you put it in your pocket (which I really don't recommend) insure nothing else is in your pocket and it's loose. Don't want to put it in your front pocket and blow your dick off ya know ;)

6.Last but certainly NOT the least, keep it clean! Clean it when you first get it "before" you even use it and clean it on a regular basis.

a.Ultrasonics are a very good investment, got mine off Amazon for around $25.


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Price range would be helpful. A Broadside makes for a great starter tube though
 

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Thinking about a Mech, read this and judge to see if you're ready.

1.Ohm's law, http://www.steam-engine.org/ makes it easy and there's even an app on it for Android


2.Batteries, fucking batteries, take good care of your batteries and know them!!!!!!!

a.Avoid shit batteries like eFest who rewrap rejects with grossly inflated amp ratings. Stick with authentic LG, Sony or Samsung from reputable (not eBay or Amazon) sources, great places that I get authentics from are -

http://liionwholesale.com/

https://www.imrbatteries.com/

b.Stick well within Continuous Discharge Rate (CDR) Not the "pulse"

c.Keep up to date with what Mooch tests and battery ratings, follow his posts on Facebook and his Blog and only use his recommend batteries.

d.In Mod's with multiple batteries, marry them.

e.Get some battery wraps, they're cheap and easy to re-wrap batteries. Any nicks,tears or what ever don't be stupid and just re-wrap.

3.Don't build stupid low a good builder can chuck and get awesome dense vape from a good build. It's simple, with 20 CDR Amp batteries -

a.Single battery mod's you're fine with .2 ohms on up

b.Dual Parallel you're fine with .15 on up. Parallel you take the full CDR of one battery then add 1/2 the CDR of the next battery

c.Series you double the voltage but you share the amps . So a series you build high with a lot of wire mass no lower that .4 ohms.

4.Make sure you don't have any shorts. For an extra caution any new build I will vape on a regulated mod for a few drips or with a tank about a 1/4 tank. This is to insure nothing wonky with my build like shorts.

5.Careful if it's not in your hand, if it doesn't have a lock on the button and you put it in your pocket (which I really don't recommend) insure nothing else is in your pocket and it's loose. Don't want to put it in your front pocket and blow your dick off ya know ;)

6.Last but certainly NOT the least, keep it clean! Clean it when you first get it "before" you even use it and clean it on a regular basis.

a.Ultrasonics are a very good investment, got mine off Amazon for around $25.

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Thanks bro, I appreciate you being so thorough. I am completely up on battery safety and all that goes with it and follow mooch as well. I only use Sony and lg 18650 batteries and for 26650 I prefer ijoy. I'm familiar with ohms law as well. Price will really be up to whatever I decide I like but preferably under $100.
 

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Just don't build stupid low with a single battery mod.

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Lol 10-4. I tend to keep on the safer side of things especially until I'm thoroughly educated and familiar with it. I'm wantin to start experimenting more with a lil higher ohm builds from .3-.8ish... since I've been building and using pre-made aliens, fused claptons, etc my highest build has been a .4 with some claptons I made and threw in my aeolus
 

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Lol 10-4. I tend to keep on the safer side of things especially until I'm thoroughly educated and familiar with it. I'm wantin to start experimenting more with a lil higher ohm builds from .3-.8ish... since I've been building and using pre-made aliens, fused claptons, etc my highest build has been a .4 with some claptons I made and threw in my aeolus
My sweet spot for single tube mod is a SS fused Claptons @around 0.2

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Damn r055co -- you putting your credit card ## out there again? :giggle:

BTW -- I hope you have that lecture on speed dial --- I sure would hate to type that in tapatalk every time.

edited just it case it REALLY is!
 

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Damn r055co -- you putting your credit card ## out there again? :giggle:

BTW -- I hope you have that lecture on speed dial --- I sure would hate to type that in tapatalk every time.

edited just it case it REALLY is!
Damn, was a tracking number I had saved

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Damn r055co -- you putting your credit card ## out there again? :giggle:

BTW -- I hope you have that lecture on speed dial --- I sure would hate to type that in tapatalk every time.

edited just it case it REALLY is!
Yeah I have it saved and just copy and paste it, somehow an old tracking number got in

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My sweet spot for single tube mod is a SS fused Claptons @around 0.2

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Cool that's usually right where my ss fused claptons been ending up and my triple core fused just a tad lower but could always add a wrap
 

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Cool that's usually right where my ss fused claptons been ending up and my triple core fused just a tad lower but could always add a wrap
With a single tube or parallel @ 4.2 you don't want a lot of wire mass. Series loves/needs wire mass but not 4.2v.

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I see... Thanks again for all the info man you have been a huge help. I'll be going series. Also u have any experience with the noisy cricket 2? Seems it's a good lil device for the money.
 

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I see... Thanks again for all the info man you have been a huge help. I'll be going series. Also u have any experience with the noisy cricket 2? Seems it's a good lil device for the money.
Yep and no I don't recommend it at all, get a VCP by Vaperz Cloud.

Trust me on this.
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If you are using .07 builds on a mech you will want a 2 plus battery parallel mod - that and it will not result in an output in the range you said you vape at (50-100w) but much closer to 200w. You have to build very accurately for what you want from a mech as you have nothing you can adjust except the build to get the vape that you want. On your regulated mods check what voltages you are vaping at, if it isn't 3.7v then that build isn't gonna vape that way on a mech.
 

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I actually found a great deal on the vcp cuz I thought it was regulated at first when I was searching for another regulated box. How come you don't recommend the noisy cricket?
 

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For a tube mech, my favourite is actually a cheap one- the Wotofo Phantom.

I use it with the standard top cap, not the hybrid, and find it performs really, really well, and it only cost me ÂŁ25. It gets the most use out of all my mechs, tubes, series and parallel.

I usually build at around 0.25-0.3 using dual coil SS316L coils, and with LG HE4's. For the price I think you can't go wrong.
 

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If you are using .07 builds on a mech you will want a 2 plus battery parallel mod - that and it will not result in an output in the range you said you vape at (50-100w) but much closer to 200w. You have to build very accurately for what you want from a mech as you have nothing you can adjust except the build to get the vape that you want. On your regulated mods check what voltages you are vaping at, if it isn't 3.7v then that build isn't gonna vape that way on a mech.

Definitely gave me some things to think about. Definitely understanding why I've always heard "ya build to get the vape you want". Regulated I just press buttons
 

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If you are using .07 builds on a mech you will want a 2 plus battery parallel mod - that and it will not result in an output in the range you said you vape at (50-100w) but much closer to 200w. You have to build very accurately for what you want from a mech as you have nothing you can adjust except the build to get the vape that you want. On your regulated mods check what voltages you are vaping at, if it isn't 3.7v then that build isn't gonna vape that way on a mech.
With a single tube or parallel @ 4.2 you don't want a lot of wire mass. Series loves/needs wire mass but not 4.2v.

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So you can build lower safely on parallel?
 

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Check @r055co post, he provided a lot of information further up.

You can build lower on a parallel mod, yes, but make sure you understand exactly what you are doing before you do decide to build very low on a parallel mod.

I understand how they both work as far as amps and mah on parallel and double voltage but amps stay same as one battery for series. I had just read some misinformation where someone tried to say the opposite so it threw me off. I can do all the math involved but I'll need to refer to moch's battery charts for reliable battery info. I dig the fact everyone tries to lookout for others and focuses on the safety aspect. I'm not one who will just jump into it and just start throwing builds on an unregulated device before I understand the whole process fully. I definitely respect the safety aspects of it and appreciate everyone stressing the importance of it. Playing around with steam engine helps
 

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Broadside imo is the best mech out there especially for the money.
Don't know if it's mentioned but it has a pin so it's safe for for atomizers that don't have long contact pin, it's insulated so if you got a torn cell and it goes unnoticed you won't get a hard short (I think it's been tested with wrap less cells), the switch has a clutch system similar to the soi so it doesn't matter where you tap the button it's a sure fire every time and also it's regarded as the hardest hitting mech since the soi. Oh yeah and for 130 bucks you can't beat that, I have mechs that cost 5 times that and don't function as well.
To add topping on this cake they have an extention tube you can use to work it as a series mech, you really can't fuck with it in any way.
In order of my favorite mechs there's the broadside, the rogue (I prefer weight and a hard throw) and then anything from league of scoundrels (except maybe the consvr which is kinda basic to me).

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What do you mean their entry mod?

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They tried to make an economical mod but it gets insanely hot imo and it's like 170 bucks and then went and worked with purge mods on their tubes which is what I want to get into next... my next tubes will either be purge or hangman tubes.

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They tried to make an economical mod but it gets insanely hot imo and it's like 170 bucks and then went and worked with purge mods on their tubes which is what I want to get into next... my next tubes will either be purge or hangman tubes.

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I kind of like Purge's new RDA
 

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I understand how they both work as far as amps and mah on parallel and double voltage but amps stay same as one battery for series. I had just read some misinformation where someone tried to say the opposite so it threw me off. I can do all the math involved but I'll need to refer to moch's battery charts for reliable battery info. I dig the fact everyone tries to lookout for others and focuses on the safety aspect. I'm not one who will just jump into it and just start throwing builds on an unregulated device before I understand the whole process fully. I definitely respect the safety aspects of it and appreciate everyone stressing the importance of it. Playing around with steam engine helps
As I mentioned in my post I always put a new build on a regulated Mod and vape it for a bit to insure nothing is Wonky. I got into that habit when I first started messing about with Mech's and it's become routine now. For the record I've only had one wonky build, just needed to tighten up the leads. Even though I still won't vape a new build on a Mech until I take it for a spin on a regulated Mod.
 

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I see... Thanks again for all the info man you have been a huge help. I'll be going series. Also u have any experience with the noisy cricket 2? Seems it's a good lil device for the money.

I've been using mine for a couple months now. I absolutely LOVE it. It's 3 mods in 1, so there's almost nothing it can't do. It seems to be very forgiving when it comes to the .1 ohm cutoff also. I don't love the way it looks, but i LOVE the way it works. $28 i would spend again in a second


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As I mentioned in my post I always put a new build on a regulated Mod and vape it for a bit to insure nothing is Wonky. I got into that habit when I first started messing about with Mech's and it's become routine now. For the record I've only had one wonky build, just needed to tighten up the leads. Even though I still won't vape a new build on a Mech until I take it for a spin on a regulated Mod.
I do the same thing myself, I thought I was a bit odd in doing so lol! I also find the Ohm meter to be more accurate on one of my better regulated mods than my actual separate Ohm meter, so I usually build straight on the regulated mod now myself, dry fire for hotspots and vape it for a while.

I have had legs to one coil break sometimes, and I have in the past had a couple of 'atomizer short' warnings pop up in my earlier days building. On a mech I wouldn't get this, so feel a lot safer using it on a regulated mod first.
 

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I do the same thing myself, I thought I was a bit odd in doing so lol! I also find the Ohm meter to be more accurate on one of my better regulated mods than my actual separate Ohm meter, so I usually build straight on the regulated mod now myself, dry fire for hotspots and vape it for a while.

I have had legs to one coil break sometimes, and I have in the past had a couple of 'atomizer short' warnings pop up in my earlier days building. On a mech I wouldn't get this, so feel a lot safer using it on a regulated mod first.
Most accurate Ohm Meters are USA Ohm Meters, I and many other swear by them.
 

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Most accurate Ohm Meters are USA Ohm Meters, I and many other swear by them.
They seem good, and also around the same price I payed for my Sigelei Ohm meter I currently have.

I may have to order one of these. I notice even these, that are super accurate, can be out by +/- 0.018 Ohms. When I read of people vaping at 0.08, their build could really be 0.062, which on a mech could have some very bad effects.
 

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Above is link to $10 stingray x mod. Great mech and dirt cheap. Just be sure to clean it well.

Happy Vaping Everyone! CV
 

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