New to Mechs. Safety questions

[thepopenale]

Hi, Ive been using the Kbox mini for a while, wrapping my own coils etc.

Today i just got a Sigelei 19 and a Solotech IMR 18500 3.7V 20A 1100mAh battery (because the mod is telescopic and the battery is short!).

Im holding off firing up the mod because I have a safety question... What resistance coil is best suited for this battery?

I have an RDA with .3 parallel coil, a Goblin Mini with .3 dual coil, Kanger Subtank Mini .5 single coil.

Are any of these setups safe or best suited to the Sigelei mod and aforementioned battery?

Its my first post here, ive lurked a lot and help off asking any dumb questions until now! Thanks in advance for the help. Great forum btw.

EDIT: I also have a Samsung 25R and Solotech 18650 3.7V 30A battery but use them in my Kanger Subox mini. Ideally I want to use the 18500 battery in the Sigelei mod.

 

[PaulS]

I would say build .5 and higher. The Goblin mini I assume can be built a bit higher, no? It has the best flavor. Now I'm assuming you have a 510 connector on that tank right?

 

[thepopenale]

I have some clapton wire Ive yet to try so I wont be too down about it. Im sure the Goblin can be built higher, ill check it out. Im pretty sure its 510, I have the 510 adapter in my vape drawer anyway.

Now my struggle is gonna be making a coil that doesnt need a dozen wraps and gets to .7/.8 I have 26 guage Kanthal and the Clapton (I dont know what guages the wire are for it). Ill type some numbers into the Steam calculator. Thanks for your input.

 

[Faceless Vapes]

Let us know how the ramp up time is on that

 

[thepopenale]

Let us know how the ramp up time is on that

Im still new to coil building and completely new to mechs. I honestly cant tell if you were being sarcastic or not? Would you advise against clapton at .7? Or do you genuinely want me to test it and report back?

 

[Faceless Vapes]

Im still new to coil building and completely new to mechs. I honestly cant tell if you were being sarcastic or not? Would you advise against clapton at .7? Or do you genuinely want me to test it and report back?

lol No I wasn't being sarcastic. 3.7V on a .7ohm coil is approximately 19 watts. So I'm wondering how the ramp up time will be on that coil.

 

[thepopenale]

oh haha, okay sorry! I was worried that my idea was ludicrous...it might be...from what ive read on clapton coils they need plenty power. I will report back with my findings. I wont try the clapton for a few days...my tank wicking is still hit and miss.

In the meanwhile, will the other batteries (Samsung 25R) work okay with the sigelei 19 using the Goblin or dripper? Both are .3. Im just eager to see what the mech mod hullaballoo is all about!

Is it just the heat of the battery in the mod itself I need to keep an eye on. Keep it cool and dont chain vape?

 

[robot zombie]

The 25r is your best bet for a mech. You can run down to .2 without straining it too much. It would be perfectly fine for anything that you have.

I would steer clear of anything smaller than an 18650 in the Sig 19. Though the form factor of smaller batteries may seem appealing, you won't find too many mech users running anything smaller than 18650 batteries (some even use 26650's) because of the amp limits on smaller batteries. The archetypal mech experience is had at low resistances. Most people opt to have the extra headroom and capacity of 20-30 amp batteries in order to safely run rather low-resistance builds.

And on another note, I personally wouldn't trust the amp ratings on those Solotechs. I'm fairly certain that they don't make their own batteries. They're just rewraps of batteries made by other companies. What's actually under the wrap is anyone's guess, but I find it unlikely that their 18500 can actually handle 20 amps of current too well.

And even if it could, the capacity is going to be garbage. It won't last long powering a .3 or even a .5.

Now the 30-amp, judging by the specs, is a Sony VTC4, which would be fine in your mech. Assuming that the specs are correct, you have what is essentially THE sub-ohm mech battery.

 

[thepopenale]

Now the 30-amp, judging by the specs, is a Sony VTC4, which would be fine in your mech. Assuming that the specs are correct, you have what is essentially THE sub-ohm mech battery.

Are you referring to the 18650 Solotech I have here? Its a rewrapped Sony VTC4?

Thanks so much for all the info you posted! Ill keep the 18500 for its small size and for when i build a .9 coil or something like that (might have to get another RDA ).

Once I get home Im gonna charge up the Samsung 25R, fill up my Goblin with Boss Sauce Apple Crack and take the Sigelei for a whirl! Just to clarify one thing... parallel coils or dual coils dont change the situation right? The final resistance reading is .3 so whatever coil setup beyond that doesnt make much of a difference from a safety perspective?

 

[robot zombie]

Are you referring to the 18650 Solotech I have here? Its a rewrapped Sony VTC4?

I'm assuming. The VTC4 is a 30A 2100mah battery, so if they're not lying about that, then yes, it would have to be the VTC4. The only way to know for sure would be to remove the wrap, which you absolutely should not do unless you have some PVC heat shrink to re-wrap it with. An unwrapped battery can and will short out inside of a tube mod, and possibly some regulated mods.

Just to clarify one thing... parallel coils or dual coils dont change the situation right? The final resistance reading is .3 so whatever coil setup beyond that doesnt make much of a difference from a safety perspective?

You mean like a parallel .3 vs a dual .3 vs a single .3? In that case, yes, they all pull the same amount of power. Whatever the meter is showing is what you go by.

 

[thepopenale]

Okay thanks for clarifying.

I fired up the Sigelei with my Samsung 25R (fully charged). I seem to be getting very little "bang" from it.

Tried my Wisemec Bambino, single parallel coil .3 and it was very flat.
Then I tried my Kanger Subtank Mini with single coil 26guage kanthal .5 and im getting decent vapour production and decent taste.

Using my regulated mod at 24 watts for the Kanger tank and 42watts for the Bambino I was getting more vapour, flavour and throat hit.

I tried reversing the battery in the mod and gave all the attys a wipe with tissue. Wiped the atomiser connector on the Sigeliei mod too.

Just to specify, Its the Sigelei 19b...I think... (spring atty side, magnet at the fire button side)

Whats going on?!

 

[Faceless Vapes]

Okay thanks for clarifying.

I fired up the Sigelei with my Samsung 25R (fully charged). I seem to be getting very little "bang" from it.

Tried my Wisemec Bambino, single parallel coil .3 and it was very flat.
Then I tried my Kanger Subtank Mini with single coil 26guage kanthal .5 and im getting decent vapour production and decent taste.

Using my regulated mod at 24 watts for the Kanger tank and 42watts for the Bambino I was getting more vapour, flavour and throat hit.

I tried reversing the battery in the mod and gave all the attys a wipe with tissue. Wiped the atomiser connector on the Sigeliei mod too.

Just to specify, Its the Sigelei 19b...I think... (spring atty side, magnet at the fire button side)

Whats going on?!

When you say you reversed the battery, you don't mean you have put the negative side up towards the atty do you? That would be a no go.

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[VAPEROXX]

I see another newspaper headline. Vaper blows face off...

 

[Faceless Vapes]

I see another newspaper headline. Vaper blows face off...

That's all the community needs. More injuries to fuel the FDA

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[thepopenale]

Yes I reversed the battery as in flipped it upside down. I was cautious when firing it. Just to see if it did fire.
ToddsReviews suggested this mod works better that way.

In the Sigelei 19b:
Atty side the mod has a spring so just based off that I assume its designed for the negative side.
Base of the mod with the firing switch is the magnet, seems more suitable for the positive/nipple side.

As I said before, im new to this and being very cautious. I knew something wasn't right when there was no "hit" from a full battery so I took it apart and came back here for some help.

Thanks

tl;dr This mod is either counter intuitive or setup backwards. I don't know...

 

[ej1024]

What the is solo tech?
19b
And what who where? 19b??
Reversed? BOOM



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[thepopenale]

What the fuck is solo tech?
19b
And what who where? 19b??
Reversed? BOOM
Wth!


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And people wonder why accidents happen. Probably because when someone asks a question looking for help and guidance, they get a "hilarious" response instead.

Thanks for your contribution

 

[ej1024]

And people wonder why accidents happen. Probably because when someone asks a question looking for help and guidance, they get a "hilarious" response instead.

Thanks for your contribution

May bad bro, I'm gonna edit,it's just the way I talk without typing can't help it sometimes...


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[ej1024]

@thepopenale
I'm not really sure what you trying to achieve though...
You already know it's not safe, then don't do it, there's enough ytubes video out there that explains battery safety...
Ask first before doing something
Not the other way around
And wtf is solotech ?


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[thepopenale]

In the Sigelei 19b:
Atty side the mod has a spring so just based off that I assume its designed for the negative side.
Base of the mod with the firing switch is the magnet, seems more suitable for the positive/nipple side.

Does it always have to be positive side of the battery towards the atomiser? Im certain Ive seen videos and read other forum posts on the Sigelei 19b that reversing the battery works better.

Solotech is the branding on the battery, 18650. But im gonna play it safe and use only the Samsung 25r in the mech mod.

 

[ej1024]

In the Sigelei 19b:
Atty side the mod has a spring so just based off that I assume its designed for the negative side.
Base of the mod with the firing switch is the magnet, seems more suitable for the positive/nipple side.

Does it always have to be positive side of the battery towards the atomiser? Im certain Ive seen videos and read other forum posts on the Sigelei 19b that reversing the battery works better.

Solotech is the branding on the battery, 18650. But im gonna play it safe and use only the Samsung 25r in the mech mod.

I've never seen negative side up, not really sure though... But whatever it is be safe..


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[thepopenale]

That's why im confused... logically it seems wrong to have the spring at the top/atty side of the mod and not put the negative side of the battery to it. Ill just stick with negative side down then based on your advice.

Okay, It seemed like I was getting a very weak vape from my RDA (.3) and tank (.5). On a full charge Samsung 25r battery, is it safe to vape on? Im not getting a "hit" but there is vapour...

I wanna stay safe first of all, THEN address whatever performance issues im having with it.

Thanks

 

[ej1024]

Do u see a plus and negative sign?? Just follow that


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[thepopenale]

On the inside of the mod? No...there isn't.

 

[ej1024]

On the inside of the mod? No...there isn't.

Get rid of that mod!! And how and where did U get that mod? There's a lot of tubes out there that will not give U this problem,
Check this

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[thepopenale]

Just to clarify... the guy in the above video is using the #19. I have the #19b. His has magnets on both ends, mine has a spring on the atty side and a magnet at the bottom.

I bought it from esmokeireland website. It was on sale for just 7euro.

 

[Faceless Vapes]

Never ever ever under any circumstance put the battery in the wrong way. That's an unregulated current. Honestly based on what you have said, I would recommend you using a regulated device only until you know everything you need to know about unregulated. Don't want any injuries.

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[ej1024]

Just to clarify... the guy in the above video is using the #19. I have the #19b. His has magnets on both ends, mine has a spring on the atty side and a magnet at the bottom.

I bought it from esmokeireland website. It was on sale for just 7euro.

Dude seriously
Throw it far far away


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[Faceless Vapes]

Dude seriously
Throw it far far away


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Then go get it. Throw it further.

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[ej1024]

Then go get it. Throw it further.

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Right...


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[MrScaryZ]

 

[stevegmu]

Make sure to post pictures when something happens...

 

[ej1024]

Make sure to post pictures when something happens...

Hahahahah


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[thepopenale]

Ill just ask somewhere else. Thanks anyway. Sincere thanks to robot zombie who provided some actual useable information.

 

[thepopenale]

I found out that the 19b is designed for the battery to go in upside down. Thanks for the jokes guys, hilarious albeit misinformed stuff

 

[iSubOhm]

As long you're lower than your maximum discharge rate as stated by your batteries specs you'll be fine. I'll give you a simple equation: battery voltage / resistance (ohms) = actual discharge rate. As long as you end up with a number that's lower than your batteries maximum discharge rate you should be fine.

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