New to Temp Control and seeking advice

[snake94115]

I mostly use sub-ohm tanks at around 32 watts using a MTL style.And I'd honestly like to know about what temp range would be good for me on the following device tank combo below.

Device : Eleaf iStick TC40W
Tank : Eleaf GS Tank

Thank you in advance.

 

[ej1024]

I mostly use sub-ohm tanks at around 32 watts using a MTL style.And I'd honestly like to know about what temp range would be good for me on the following device tank combo below.

Device : Eleaf iStick TC40W
Tank : Eleaf GS Tank

Thank you in advance.

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[snake94115]

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Yep I'd show you a pic but I can't remember where the heck I put my camera.

 

[Neunerball]

I mostly use sub-ohm tanks at around 32 watts using a MTL style.And I'd honestly like to know about what temp range would be good for me on the following device tank combo below.

Device : Eleaf iStick TC40W
Tank : Eleaf GS Tank

Thank you in advance.

We can't answer your question, due to not knowing your preferences. In addition, it also depends on your liquid. You'll have to play with the settings, until you find the sweet spot. Start at a lower temperature and power setting, and increment, until you found it. For the time, it takes to heat up the coil, you use the power setting. However, if the power setting is too high, some mods "stutter".

 

[AmandaD]

Are you using Ni or TI? There is a hidden setting to turn on tc for Ti with the Istick 40w. Someone posted it here, and I did it on mine, but I can't remember now how I did it!

You're stuck at a standard 40 watts in TC - that part's not adjustable. I generally run mine anywhere between 450 and 550f, depending on the coil and juice.

 

[snake94115]

We can't answer your question, due to not knowing your preferences.

I listed my preferences.
If I missed something let me know what additional information you need.
Thanks...Cheers!

Are you using Ni or TI?
I generally run mine anywhere between 450 and 550f, depending on the coil and juice.

It came with Ni200 coils.
Currently I'm at 470f and I feel that's still a bit weak.So far I'm not impressed with the whole TC thing.I'm thinking maybe I'd be happier with the 1.2ohm Eleaf GS Air Organic Cotton Coils.

 

[Powerman]

There is no setting. Turn it up, turn it down, find what you like. Not trying to be a jerk. You know what you like, find it.

TC is different than power. Yes, duhhh, but it can seem weak, but you are limiting output, it's going to be weaker. At 400F for me, and my air flow, there is no heat. I can't even tell I'm vaping till I exhale. But it's still plenty of vapor. I never tried for heat, but now I like warm. 450-500 works good for me, my equipment, and what I like. YMMV

 

[Lost]

I saw a breakdown last night, somewhere, with general temp ranges. Pretty sure they linked it to watts somehow. Basically, "At this temperature range, you'll get this type of vape."

My takeway wasn't "Oh, I have to save this link." My takeaway was similar to Powerman's suggestion: "You just have to play around a bit."

I'd try to find the page again, but my browser automatically deletes histories, and I'm running out the door. Sorry. I'm certain you'll be able to find similar pages without a lot of searching.

 

[Adam Paseman]

Personaly I struggle to find a difference between TC and Power modes. I can vape my crown stainless steel coils at 530° and it gives me a great vape. I can also vapor it at 50 W and get a very similar Vape. I don't really see a difference between the two.


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[MrScaryZ]

Personaly I struggle to find a difference between TC and Power modes. I can vape my crown stainless steel coils at 530° and it gives me a great vape. I can also vapor it at 50 W and get a very similar Vape. I don't really see a difference between the two.


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If a person knows how long they hold the button down every single time does not run their juice low in a RDA then you are correct most will never notice a difference unless you get into extreme flavor chasing where you want a close to identical vape every time.. Temp control is one of the most over hyped technologies.. IMHO

 

[Adam Paseman]

Have to agree with you. In the past i guess it would take care of potential dry hits but with tanks these days I haven't had a dry hit in powermode so it's a non issue for me.


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[Powerman]

If a person knows how long they hold the button down every single time does not run their juice low in a RDA then you are correct most will never notice a difference unless you get into extreme flavor chasing where you want a close to identical vape every time.. Temp control is one of the most over hyped technologies.. IMHO

It's not hyped. Nobody promised it's as great as a fairy BJ riding on a unicorn. It's another layer of regulation. No different than regulating voltage.

I most certainly know the difference. It isn't over heated like power, and it heats faster than power. Power only pull is weak-great-hot. TC is great-great-great. Not BJ great, just consistent start to finish. What's not to like about that?

 

[MrScaryZ]

It's not hyped. Nobody promised it's as great as a fairy BJ riding on a unicorn. It's another layer of regulation. No different than regulating voltage.

I most certainly know the difference. It isn't over heated like power, and it heats faster than power. Power only pull is weak-great-hot. TC is great-great-great. Not BJ great, just consistent start to finish. What's not to like about that?

I did not say I "Do not like it" I said its over hyped re-read my post.. I use it all the time with SS on my DNA 200 but its still over hyped..
Do I need it? No? Do you ? maybe

 

[Powerman]

I never said anything about you liking, I asked what is over hyped about. Read... So what was over hyped? What was promised, what wasn't delivered? All I know is TC came available, I read about it, I bought it, I like it better than no TC. Nobody "needs" nic, so why go there.

 

[georgemeadal]

I had the iStick 40TC and in NI mode at 420F the vape was craptastic. Bumped it up to 560 and the vape was nice and all...about the same feel (heat of the vapor) as using same tank/coil on my eVic VTC Mini at 470F. That being said the iStick 40TC is a little under powered. Just know that even if you bump the temp up to 600 you are really not getting the coil that hot...my "guess" is that it is about 80-100 degrees cooler than what the screen says. Edit- Try 560F and I think you will like the heat/flavor. Definitely try the 1.2 ohm coil...your battery life will thank you.

 

[Adam Paseman]

I don't see an issue here....where's the argument? If you feel TC is beneficial go for it? If not, who cares?

Personally I have used it a lot, but when I go back to powermode I can't see much of a difference in my vape. If I vape at 40w, the vape seems consistently the same everytime. Thats just my experience. It's nice to have TC, it's just an extra feature but for me it doesn't equate to a different vape experience.


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[Bean8379]

If a person knows how long they hold the button down every single time does not run their juice low in a RDA then you are correct most will never notice a difference unless you get into extreme flavor chasing where you want a close to identical vape every time.. Temp control is one of the most over hyped technologies.. IMHO

Although I have not used temp control myself, I agree with this sentiment exactly.

 

[Powerman]

How can you agree if you have never used it?

I'm not arguing it's the best thing since ejuice. It is just a feature. I guess I just missed all the hype.

 

[Bean8379]

I agree that power and tc do the same exact thing with varying degrees of consistency and reliability. You are putting electricity through a coil. As a result, that coil gets warm. The temperature is dependent on the amount of power either way.

 

[georgemeadal]

Regulating said power before coil gets too hot to burn the cotton is a good thing...coils last longer too IF you can keep the temp low enough and still get a satisfying vape...just sayin... @snake94115 just vape the way that keeps you off the butts.

 

[Bean8379]

Lower wattage/voltage will also keep the coil cool enough to not burn the cotton, but many don't get that simple concept. That is all I am saying.

 

[Powerman]

Lower wattage/voltage will also keep the coil cool enough to not burn the cotton, but many don't get that simple concept. That is all I am saying.

Because it's not that simple. I ran my D2 at 55-65 watts on my favorite coil. On my DNA I do 120w for a second. I have it set to 85w max limit. But once the coil is up to temp, it only is doing around 20 watts to maintain temp. All my D2 is doing at that point is overheating it by 50w.

But ya, I can turn my D2 down to 20w and never go over that temp.... That is if I want a crap vape and wait for a while to get it up to temp. So no, it isn't the same thing. Doesn't mean it's awesome, or the best ever.... But it's not the same.

 

[snake94115]

There is no setting. Turn it up, turn it down, find what you like. Not trying to be a jerk. You know what you like, find it.

TC is different than power. Yes, duhhh, but it can seem weak, but you are limiting output, it's going to be weaker. At 400F for me, and my air flow, there is no heat. I can't even tell I'm vaping till I exhale. But it's still plenty of vapor. I never tried for heat, but now I like warm. 450-500 works good for me, my equipment, and what I like. YMMV

No worries I cranked up the heat as high as went 600f too hot 550f seems alright to me.Still not getting as dense or as warm as I'd like.I'll keep playing with it but so far it sees pretty much hit and miss for me so I'm not really impressed with TC still.
Oh well at least I can just get those 1.2ohm Eleaf GS Air Organic Cotton Coils.Then run it as a Variable Wattage System.

 

[snake94115]

Regulating said power before coil gets too hot to burn the cotton is a good thing...coils last longer too IF you can keep the temp low enough and still get a satisfying vape...just sayin... @snake94115 just vape the way that keeps you off the butts.

smoke free 2+ years no worries

 

[gtrtech]

Are you using Ni or TI? There is a hidden setting to turn on tc for Ti with the Istick 40w. Someone posted it here, and I did it on mine, but I can't remember now how I did it!

You're stuck at a standard 40 watts in TC - that part's not adjustable. I generally run mine anywhere between 450 and 550f, depending on the coil and juice.

To enable/add the TI Coil mode on your iStick 40w TC follow these simple steps:

1) Turn your iStick 40w TC OFF
2) Press and hold the Power Button and up arrow simultaneously for 25 seconds until you get the reading "TI Mode"
3) Turn your iStick 40w TC back on and now you have Wattage Mode - Nickel Mode & TITANIUM MODE!

 

[snake94115]

Just vaped the following combo.

Kanger SubTank Plus
0.5ohm OCC
Smok X-Pro M80 Plus
32watts
Nilla Nutz 50/50 PG/VG 6mg from HiggyCigs

Oh Hell Yeah
Now that was good

 

[snake94115]

To enable/add the TI Coil mode on your iStick 40w TC follow these simple steps:

1) Turn your iStick 40w TC OFF
2) Press and hold the Power Button and up arrow simultaneously for 25 seconds until you get the reading "TI Mode"
3) Turn your iStick 40w TC back on and now you have Wattage Mode - Nickel Mode & TITANIUM MODE!

I'll make a note of that thanks.
However I'll probably just finish off this tank worth of e-liquid then rinse it out while I wait for my next check and pickup some of those 1.2ohm coils I keep mentioning.

 

[Powerman]

No worries I cranked up the heat as high as went 600f too hot 550f seems alright to me.Still not getting as dense or as warm as I'd like.I'll keep playing with it but so far it sees pretty much hit and miss for me so I'm not really impressed with TC still.
Oh well at least I can just get those 1.2ohm Eleaf GS Air Organic Cotton Coils.Then run it as a Variable Wattage System.

It seems to me... Cotton burning at 400F ish seems hot, but it isn't with all the air we pull. In fact it's pretty cool. So I think at first it seems pretty off. I've heard some think coils get around 700. Seems reasonable.

So it's just different. I thought 400F was it to avoid burnt hits. But it kinda sucks. I tried some burn tests. Sure it starts around 400f. Some steady smoke close to 500. Scorched earth 550-600. And that's dry cotton. So for me, anywhere from 450-550 is good. And yes I could singe some cotton, it isn't going to be a smoke bomb.

I also tried closing the air. Plenty of vapor, but warmer. Think of air as cooling. The more air, the more power to maintain temp. Less is less.

 

[snake94115]

It seems to me... Cotton burning at 400F ish seems hot, but it isn't with all the air we pull. In fact it's pretty cool. So I think at first it seems pretty off. I've heard some think coils get around 700. Seems reasonable.

So it's just different. I thought 400F was it to avoid burnt hits. But it kinda sucks. I tried some burn tests. Sure it starts around 400f. Some steady smoke close to 500. Scorched earth 550-600. And that's dry cotton. So for me, anywhere from 450-550 is good. And yes I could singe some cotton, it isn't going to be a smoke bomb.

I also tried closing the air. Plenty of vapor, but warmer. Think of air as cooling. The more air, the more power to maintain temp. Less is less.

I see what you mean.I opened up the Airflow and it was like hitting an Ego to me closing back up is where I get the most pleasure from it.But honestly I'd rather be vaping the setup I mentioned above.
Kanger SubTank Plus
0.5ohm OCC
Smok X-Pro M80 Plus
32watts
than this below.
Eleaf iStick TC40W
Eleaf GS Tank
550f

 

[snake94115]

That being said the iStick 40TC is a little under powered. Just know that even if you bump the temp up to 600 you are really not getting the coil that hot...my "guess" is that it is about 80-100 degrees cooler than what the screen says.

You were right it is under powered.
I put the GS Tank on my Pegasus and at 420f it's damn near perfect.
Much better vape and now I'll just use the iStick TC40W as a variable wattage device.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I pretty much use TC exclusively. The thing people need to remember is not all mods do TC well. So if you try it on a mod that for lack of a better word sucks at TC, then you're not going to be happy. Try it on a properly set up DNA200 and chances are you will have a different opinion.

I'm not saying it's for everyone, just saying not all TC mods do it well.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit. Before I get flamed, I'm not saying the DNA200 mods are the only good TC mods. I picked those because out of all my mods, they do it best.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I pretty much use TC exclusively. The thing people need to remember is not all mods do TC well. So if you try it on a mod that for lack of a better word sucks at TC, then you're not going to be happy. Try it on a properly set up DNA200 and chances are you will have a different opinion.

I'm not saying it's for everyone, just saying not all TC mods do it well.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit. Before I get flamed, I'm not saying the DNA200 mods are the only good TC mods. I picked those because out of all my mods, they do it best.

^^^^^
What that guy said, almost verbatim
I'll add in, yihi350j takes a very close second; followed,by some of the 330 mods. I got to grow with it as am early adopter and have been using tc for 90% of my vaping since the dna40 launch.
I say it that way;because, while the board is the brain, a tcc mod is not only a board.
Tc is only as good as its weakest link.
The coil, 510, atty and everything between the coil and the board play a hand in it.
Especially in the case of a rebuildable a good, solid connection at every join is vital. If you prefer a a smooth, consistent, even vape then it really gets no better than a properly set up, good performing tc mod.
With the dna200, tc is even, starting to get used when I would normally reach For an rda/hexohm.

 

[Adam Paseman]

I only have the ipv4 and vtc mini-bith of which have TC. I find the vtc mini to perform well especially with SS. I just don't find the vape experience to be noticeably different than powermode-though I choose to use It in TC mode.


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[snake94115]

Alright so I finally settled in at 430f on my Pegasus GS Tank combo.Now I just gotta come up with a nickname for it...Sigh.