Ok you Diy'ers lol

[lordmage]

it has been a while since i did Diy but with the recent @fucktheFDA news i am going to re-enter that area.

i have already ordered my preferred nic base 100mg which i opted for a 30/70 blend pg/vg Nude nicotine extended shelf life v2

i plan to use Vg base flavorings or others. my profile of late has been fruity.
im working on a clone of naked lava flow (coconut,pineapple,strawberry)
and maybe others.
what i would like from you are suggestions on which flavorings make better shake and vapes?

i will be doing 15 ml sample batches and 30 ml daily drivers of the ones i like.

so far my base recipe to add flavorings to is about .5m/l to a 15 ml test. target nic level 3mg. ratio close to 30/70 pg/vg

 

[AmandaD]

You'll be very limited if you want flavorings in a VG base - most of them are in PG, but if you use a low percentage of flavoring (I rarely go over 8% total) you can still get a high VG level.

 

[OMEGA VAPOR SUPPLY]

You'll be very limited if you want flavorings in a VG base - most of them are in PG, but if you use a low percentage of flavoring (I rarely go over 8% total) you can still get a high VG level.

I totally agree - We have an extensive kitchen in our lab, and only a small portion of our arsenal is VG based flavorants or molecules. I can say that there is very little success with VG flavoring profiles coming out with any real success.

 

[lordmage]

well the others i had used a SAC but i have had limited success with them. im open to PG based of course. ill just have to adjust the VG ratio which is fine.

added a few points to the OP.

 

[AmandaD]

well the others i had used a SAC but i have had limited success with them. im open to PG based of course. ill just have to adjust the VG ratio which is fine.

I love Flavor Art coconut and pineapple. The strawberry, while very good, is pretty weak. Many people like to mix that one with Capella Sweet Strawberry!

(I don't know what a SAC is!)

 

[lordmage]

SAC =Super Alcohol concentrate @AmandaD

 

[Teresa P]

Vg does tend to mute flavors, but I've never tried vg based flavorings.
Fruits are generally shake and vape, creams, custards, and tobaccos require steeping.

 

[Mattp169]

if you want fruit tasting fruit flavors id go flavourart. if you want candy flavored fruit go with CAP. but there are so few VG based flavors out there it will be tough

 

[Teresa P]

ECX has Northwest, not sure how vast those offerings are.

 

[lordmage]

now to find a vendor who carrys both

 

[AmandaD]

But if someone's already mixing in a 70/30 base I can't see the reason for limiting to VG flavors. Easier to use either a VG or PG base I would think! I use a PG base and my juice is often around 90% VG, which is more then the max VG many commercial juice makers are using!

 

[Teresa P]

http://www.ecigexpress.com/shop/diy-e-liquid/l/northwest.html

 

[lordmage]

well ordered thanks to all went with flavor art for the pineapple and coconut and cap for the strawberry added a few others as well. now i should be set

 

[gopher_byrd]

now i should be set

Until you go wandering through the recipe forum and find something that looks good to you...

 

[lordmage]

Until you go wandering through the recipe forum and find something that looks good to you...

for now i have avoided that area but yes i see your point

 

[Huckleberried]

$12,000 later...

Have fun with 'em!

 

[gopher_byrd]

$12,000 later...

!?!?!? If I had spent that much I wouldn't be here talking to you. My wife would freaking kill me...

 

[Huckleberried]

!?!?!? If I had spent that much I wouldn't be here talking to you. My wife would freaking kill me...

I might've exaggerated a tad.

 

[Hottvapz]

$12,000 later...

Have fun with 'em!

It feels like I have spent that much
But ooooo the juice combos I can make. Lol

Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk

 

[RatRacer]

I might've exaggerated a tad.

Fucking thing took me on a $300 journey today.
So maybe exaggerated, but still pricey up front. (Though cheap when thinking long term)

 

[lirruping]

now to find a vendor who carrys both

Some people are having good results with Real Flavors and Medicine Flower flavors, both (I think) VG based. I have yet to try either, but I've heard only good things about both companies.

 

[mjag]

ECX renames Real Flavors as Northwest VG. I have never tried Real Flavors but GremlinDIY carries them: http://gremlindiy.com/flavors/real-flavors/ and I heard there Vanilla Custard and there Cream is pretty good so I placed an order tonight. They have a sale going on for the next 75 minutes mom15 for 15% off.

Price wise Gremlin beats ECX, you get 15ml for $3 instead of only 10ml at ECX.

I wound up picking 6 other RF to give them a try.

If you wind up really liking Real Flavors they have an ongoing deal at there website for 25% off, they only carry 60ml sizes though: https://www.realflavors.com/pages/welcome-elr-friends

Seems like a good alternative to those who are PG sensitive.

Nudenicotine also carries a line of VG based flavors, never tried them though.

 

[lirruping]

ECX renames Real Flavors as Northwest VG.

Oh! Well, if that's the case, I guess I may have tried them. I have NW Lemondade and NW Birthday Cake. Both very nice. Though come to think of it, I am not sure they are VG.

 

[ghost1k]

I started using a sweetner(from ecigexpress) and it makes the batches way better imo. I was kind of falling off the DIY bandwagon until I started experimenting with the sweetner. Now I make batches that taste just like premium eliquids imo.

As far as a recipe to shake and vape I just started DIYing a lot again and right now I have been vaping :

7% Capella sweet strawberry
5% capella vanilla custard v2
3% FA vienna cream
1% FA Catalan cream
About 10 drops of Capella Blue raspberry cotton candy
and 15 drops of capella new york cheesecake
and 20-25 drops of sweetner
(forgot to write it down but its pretty close to this, basically threw in all the flavorings i have right now lol)

Pretty awesome vape imo but like I said, if you add sweetner and mix up pretty much any flavors you think would make a good vape it will probably come out pretty damn good if not then vapeable at the very least

My opinion is dont over do it on overall flavor percentages and also the more layering of the same sort of flavor you want to get( different strawberry flavorings and creams for example) the more complex and "premium" type vape you will get.

 

[kross8]

if you want fruit tasting fruit flavors id go flavourart. if you want candy flavored fruit go with CAP. but there are so few VG based flavors out there it will be tough

i have 27 fa flavors,, and near 0 success so far in diy........and for some reason, i cant hardly taste raspberry at .50 to 3.0% a lot of frustration lol.

 

[kross8]

i went from max vg to 80/20distilled water,, still nothing really decent. so now i am playing with ohms impact on flavors......might be a tiny dif.. not sure

yes i taste stuff.. not horrible.. but nothing i can say is even good enough flavor

 

[Huckleberried]

i went from max vg to 80/20distilled water,, still nothing really decent. so now i am playing with ohms impact on flavors......might be a tiny dif.. not sure

yes i taste stuff.. not horrible.. but nothing i can say is even good enough flavor

Have you considered using less water?? Your flavorings will thin the vg some.

 

[AmandaD]

i went from max vg to 80/20distilled water,, still nothing really decent. so now i am playing with ohms impact on flavors......might be a tiny dif.. not sure

yes i taste stuff.. not horrible.. but nothing i can say is even good enough flavor

And are you 100% sure they're Flavor Art and not The Flavor Apprentice (whose logo has changed to 'FA'?)

 

[kross8]

And are you 100% sure they're Flavor Art and not The Flavor Apprentice (whose logo has changed to 'FA'?)

no,, they are all fa,, i triple checked each order

 

[kross8]

Have you considered using less water?? Your flavorings will thin the vg some.

at first i did 5% dw,, my next try will be an end 50/50 with vg/pg,, even though i would rather not use pg. my husband pointed out that since i am usually 0 nic now.. that he thinks i will just stop vaping eventually........i dunno.. sometimes i add a little extra nic when i am stressed as it keeps my mouth shut

 

[mjag]

i have 27 fa flavors,, and near 0 success so far in diy........and for some reason, i cant hardly taste raspberry at .50 to 3.0% a lot of frustration lol.

FA has some great flavors, no doubt. I also started out with mostly all FA flavors but wasn't having much success as well, turns out everyone has different tastes so I branched out, best thing I ever did or I would have quit DIY and went back to store bought.

Every flavor maker has there hits and misses and it really makes it more interesting to order a few different strawberries for example to find your taste, not someone else's.

I have never had FA Raspberry, not a big Raspberry fan but use it to enhance strawberries or for a little something extra in a mix. TFA Sweet Raspeberry is decent, I personally like INW Raspberry, maybe not as natural tasting but it does have a sweet rounded flavor to it. I definitely think you will taste INW Raspberry at .50 to 3.0%, the latter probably being way too much.

I do tend to go for more bold flavors, FA is admittedly more realistic in a lot of what they make but some people prefer Peach Ice Cream more than an actual Peach, different strokes for different folks.

 

[kross8]

FA has some great flavors, no doubt. I also started out with mostly all FA flavors but wasn't having much success as well, turns out everyone has different tastes so I branched out, best thing I ever did or I would have quit DIY and went back to store bought.

Every flavor maker has there hits and misses and it really makes it more interesting to order a few different strawberries for example to find your taste, not someone else's.

I have never had FA Raspberry, not a big Raspberry fan but use it to enhance strawberries or for a little something extra in a mix. TFA Sweet Raspeberry is decent, I personally like INW Raspberry, maybe not as natural tasting but it does have a sweet rounded flavor to it. I definitely think you will taste INW Raspberry at .50 to 3.0%, the latter probably being way too much.

I do tend to go for more bold flavors, FA is admittedly more realistic in a lot of what they make but some people prefer Peach Ice Cream more than an actual Peach, different strokes for different folks.

i think you are right,, i watched a few diy or die videos and added some other brands to my shopping cart next go around. i was going to stop diy for about a month then try again. right now i have a ton of juice from venders so its no big deal... so when the 'cupboard' starts looking bare i may get more inspired lol

 

[OBDave]

Most of the pertinent info has already been covered here, but all of Nude's flavors are VG based, since that was mentioned as desirable and OP is using Nude for nic base already...