I really dont want to go into detail about what I have or may not have but I can say half a block wouldnt be too much to remove from sight
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Let's just leave flaming bags of dog shit with FDA logos on them outside ever member's door until they get sick of it and overturn it.
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really? living in New Orleans and having witnessed that first hand, I cant tell you how nice it is to see an event that I lost everything being used as fodder for your dreams of destruction.
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Good lord, I'm out. It's like people just try to be offended. The thing about taking offense is you have to take it, it can't just be given to you. I grew up in Serbia during the Bosnian Wars, I've seen real life mass graves. Bad shit happens. It happens to all of us, hell, you're the one who said that to me in another thread.
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dude, you are running around screaming for unification and insulting people at the same time. then using the destruction of a major city as a basis of comparison.
focus your anger at the problem and not the people you want to unify? use the issue to unify.
dead bodies being put on a flat boat then dropped off on the side of a major highway. then a house being pushed 5 miles inland with dead bodies found all around it, is not exactly a pleasant memory. - and that did not just happen to me, but an entire region of the country.
let alone the people locked in the dome, the people who were euthanized at the hospitals, weeks of standing in line for an mre and a bottle of water.
and I don't offend easily. but dude, c'mon
a little tact. I say this as a member.
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and this thread shows why nothing got done, we can't even get along with each other, how the hell did they expect us to come together and fight two multi-billion dollar a year industries and the government
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Everybody just needs to calm down. We are all on edge over these bullshit regulations. Chill out, have a vape, and brush it off.
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But honestly, I've been signing vaping petitions for several years and have yet to see a single one amount to shit. They're just a way to make a person feel like they're doing something productive. Your signatures will be ignored; only an uprising will get the attention now.
But honestly, I've been signing vaping petitions for several years and have yet to see a single one amount to shit. They're just a way to make a person feel like they're doing something productive. Your signatures will be ignored; only an uprising will get the attention now.
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Why do you even care if I offend you? Are you more worried about your own little feelings than the overall outcome of vaping? You're contradicting your own statements firebird, you claim you want unification but you pick at everything I say. I don't like you firebird, I never will. Either ignore me or get used to my comments, because they're not going to change. I'm getting involved with a local project through MoV who The Golden Greek (Dimitri) works for and at that location to turn this into a multi million dollar lawsuit. So by all means, you act like kind words and calm downs make a SHIT of a difference, I'll live here in the real world.
-Leans back and takes in the hate with a smile.-
Get over yourself, I don't care that I offended you. I really don't. This is me being honest for once. I made a joke. That one joke is not going to be the straw that broke vaping's back. You are actively making an effort to get uppity over everything I say. I get it dude, you don't like me, the feeling is mutual. But my comment also HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH vaping, yet you bring it up. You're the one making this a he v.s she scenario. Us all holding hands and saying don't take vaping away won't do shit, we'll be like the tank man in Tiananmen Square. I'm sick of pretending to be nicer than I am. This is an open forum, I am not breaking rules, yet you are all over my shit. You've made it clear you don't like me, so either invent a new rule to ban me or just ignore me. I speak what I believe, I act how I am. It isn't changing. This is a social forum, not an advocacy outlet. We can do a GREAT job spreading the word here, but this forum (as it sits) is not a tank on the battlefield of this fight. We can make it be, but not by holding hands with unhurt butts singing kumbaya.
Hate me? Welcome to the club. Hasn't stopped me from succeeding in life. Oh, and yes, I'm aware of how much of a condescending asshole I look like right now.
I don't care. I made a joke, quit acting like I'm killing our hope of survival making jokes on a forum.
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Get over yourself, I don't care that I offended you. I really don't. This is me being honest for once. I made a joke. That one joke is not going to be the straw that broke vaping's back. You are actively making an effort to get uppity over everything I say. I get it dude, you don't like me, the feeling is mutual. But my comment also HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH vaping, yet you bring it up. You're the one making this a he v.s she scenario. Us all holding hands and saying don't take vaping away won't do shit, we'll be like the tank man in Tiananmen Square. I'm sick of pretending to be nicer than I am. This is an open forum, I am not breaking rules, yet you are all over my shit. You've made it clear you don't like me, so either invent a new rule to ban me or just ignore me. I speak what I believe, I act how I am. It isn't changing. This is a social forum, not an advocacy outlet. We can do a GREAT job spreading the word here, but this forum (as it sits) is not a tank on the battlefield of this fight. We can make it be, but not by holding hands with unhurt butts singing kumbaya.
Hate me? Welcome to the club. Hasn't stopped me from succeeding in life. Oh, and yes, I'm aware of how much of a condescending asshole I look like right now.
I don't care. I made a joke, quit acting like I'm killing our hope of survival making jokes on a forum.
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done and confirmed!
Signed and confirmed, just to help and give some warm fuzzies, but its worthless.
The White House no doubt already looked at the FDAs ruling and have done nothing to stop it. A petition is not going to do anything, if it gets a 100k signatures and gets a response from Obama, itll likely be along the lines of "We believe the FDA has the best interest of the people at heart, we know whats best for this country as a whole, and as such, individual opinion doesnt matter."
Its all bullshit. This country is no longer about the individual which is how it was formed. If you dont have a corporation or a lot of money backing up your voice, you cant get shit.
The White House no doubt already looked at the FDAs ruling and have done nothing to stop it. A petition is not going to do anything, if it gets a 100k signatures and gets a response from Obama, itll likely be along the lines of "We believe the FDA has the best interest of the people at heart, we know whats best for this country as a whole, and as such, individual opinion doesnt matter."
Its all bullshit. This country is no longer about the individual which is how it was formed. If you dont have a corporation or a lot of money backing up your voice, you cant get shit.
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Dimitri (The Golden Greek) and many other big name, big brands are banding together to form a multi-million dollar lawsuit to try and get this to the Supreme Court. Find more information about this (SuckMyMod touched on it) and when the time comes donate to support it. Write letters to congressmen, fuck these useless petitions. I've talked to Dimitri personally and this is a sign of hope. Worst case scenario, a lawsuit will draw this out for YEARS before the FDA can do anything and give us time to come up with a better strategy, best case it kills in entirely. If you want to save vaping, these lawsuits are the best hope. By all means, sign your petitions, it supports awareness. But as far as results, it gives zero.