Question-can this be right on the news??

[jball49]

Hi, I saw on the early CBS morning news recently that as of April 1st they are banning ecigs in carry on luggage and as most of you know they had already banned them from checked luggage. I have scanned through many of the different headers here trying to find someone talking about this issue (sorry if it is here somewhere and I just missed it) but didn't see anything. I tried to call the airline on Friday (hold time was too long) because I am flying later this month and always was able to take vape gear in my carry on in the past so I am really worried as to how they expect us to travel without any means to transport our vape if this is true and I did record the piece on TV and watched it again to make sure I didn't hear it incorrectly. Now it was VERY early in the morning and it may have been misinformation but if not this is huge for the vaping community. I plan to call again tomorrow but also wanted to throw this subject out here to see what anyone has heard about this? The report said it was because of multiple ecigs blowing up or catching fire on airplanes which I personally don't worry about but can see how some of the problems have occurred.

So does anyone have any information on this ban of ecigs in carry on bags on US flights??

 

[Whiskey]

To get your carriers correct rules on E-cigs I would go to the website or call them and ask

 

[SMOKIE]

Hi, I saw on the early CBS morning news recently that as of April 1st they are banning ecigs in carry on luggage and as most of you know they had already banned them from checked luggage. I have scanned through many of the different headers here trying to find someone talking about this issue (sorry if it is here somewhere and I just missed it) but didn't see anything. I tried to call the airline on Friday (hold time was too long) because I am flying later this month and always was able to take vape gear in my carry on in the past so I am really worried as to how they expect us to travel without any means to transport our vape if this is true and I did record the piece on TV and watched it again to make sure I didn't hear it incorrectly. Now it was VERY early in the morning and it may have been misinformation but if not this is huge for the vaping community. I plan to call again tomorrow but also wanted to throw this subject out here to see what anyone has heard about this? The report said it was because of multiple ecigs blowing up or catching fire on airplanes which I personally don't worry about but can see how some of the problems have occurred.

So does anyone have any information on this ban of ecigs in carry on bags on US flights??

Hey good topic, I am also flying twice this year, and one time out of the country. So any info would be appreciated here, just post it if anyone has any updates.

 

[SMOKIE]

DOT Issues New Flight Safety Rule for E-Cigarettes
OCT 26, 2015

WASHINGTON – In its continuing effort to improve transportation safety, the U.S. Department of Transportation Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration today issued an interim final rule (IFR) to prohibit passengers and crewmembers from carrying battery-powered portable electronic smoking devices (e.g. e-cigarettes, e-cigs, e-cigars, e-pipes, personal vaporizers, electronic nicotine delivery systems) in checked baggage and prohibit passengers and crewmembers from charging the devices and/or batteries on board the aircraft.

“We know from recent incidents that e-cigarettes in checked bags can catch fire during transport,” said Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “Fire hazards in flight are particularly dangerous. Banning e-cigarettes from checked bags is a prudent safety measure.”

On January 22, 2015, the Federal Aviation Administration issued a Safety Alert for Operators recommending that air carriers require their passengers to carry e-cigarettes and related devices exclusively in the cabin of the aircraft. Also, on June 9, 2015, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) published an addendum to the 2015-2016 ICAO Technical Instructions for the Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air prohibiting the carriage of e-cigarettes in checked baggage and restricting the charging of these devices while on board the aircraft.

“The importance of the safety of the flying public provides good cause for our issuing an IFR,” said PHMSA Administrator Marie Therese Dominguez. “E-cigarettes in checked bags present a safety risk because they are capable of generating extreme heat, which could lead to a fire on board the aircraft.”

Passengers may continue to carry e-cigarettes for personal use in carry-on baggage or on their person but may not use them on flights. The Department’s current regulatory ban on smoking of tobacco products on passenger flights includes the use of electronic cigarettes. Nevertheless, to prevent passenger or crewmember confusion, the Department has proposed to amend its existing airline smoking rule to explicitly ban use of electronic cigarettes aboard aircraft.

The IFR does not prohibit a passenger from carrying other devices containing batteries for personal use (such as laptop computers, cell phones, cameras, etc.) in checked or carry-on baggage, nor does it restrict a passenger from transporting batteries for personal use in carry-on baggage.

An e-cigarette is a battery-powered device that simulates tobacco smoking by producing a heated vapor, which resembles smoke.

- See more at: https://www.transportation.gov/brie...safety-rule-e-cigarettes#sthash.DB78j0VG.dpuf

 

[jball49]

DOT Issues New Flight Safety Rule for E-Cigarettes
OCT 26, 2015

WASHINGTON – In its continuing effort to improve transportation safety, the U.S. Department of Transportation Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration today issued an interim final rule (IFR) to prohibit passengers and crewmembers from carrying battery-powered portable electronic smoking devices (e.g. e-cigarettes, e-cigs, e-cigars, e-pipes, personal vaporizers, electronic nicotine delivery systems) in checked baggage and prohibit passengers and crewmembers from charging the devices and/or batteries on board the aircraft.

“We know from recent incidents that e-cigarettes in checked bags can catch fire during transport,” said Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “Fire hazards in flight are particularly dangerous. Banning e-cigarettes from checked bags is a prudent safety measure.”

On January 22, 2015, the Federal Aviation Administration issued a Safety Alert for Operators recommending that air carriers require their passengers to carry e-cigarettes and related devices exclusively in the cabin of the aircraft. Also, on June 9, 2015, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) published an addendum to the 2015-2016 ICAO Technical Instructions for the Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air prohibiting the carriage of e-cigarettes in checked baggage and restricting the charging of these devices while on board the aircraft.

“The importance of the safety of the flying public provides good cause for our issuing an IFR,” said PHMSA Administrator Marie Therese Dominguez. “E-cigarettes in checked bags present a safety risk because they are capable of generating extreme heat, which could lead to a fire on board the aircraft.”

Passengers may continue to carry e-cigarettes for personal use in carry-on baggage or on their person but may not use them on flights. The Department’s current regulatory ban on smoking of tobacco products on passenger flights includes the use of electronic cigarettes. Nevertheless, to prevent passenger or crewmember confusion, the Department has proposed to amend its existing airline smoking rule to explicitly ban use of electronic cigarettes aboard aircraft.

The IFR does not prohibit a passenger from carrying other devices containing batteries for personal use (such as laptop computers, cell phones, cameras, etc.) in checked or carry-on baggage, nor does it restrict a passenger from transporting batteries for personal use in carry-on baggage.

An e-cigarette is a battery-powered device that simulates tobacco smoking by producing a heated vapor, which resembles smoke.

- See more at: https://www.transportation.gov/brie...safety-rule-e-cigarettes#sthash.DB78j0VG.dpuf

I was aware of this prohibition but according to this news report they were instituting a ban on them in carry on luggage starting April 1st which left me wondering how they would expect us to take any type of vape device with us if you can't have them in a carry on or checked baggage. I will call the airline tomorrow and I still think the report I saw which I still have on my DVR from the morning of 3-17-16 at about 4:13 am was incorrect but I will find out for sure and post whatever I find out here. Thanks.

 

[jball49]

Hey good topic, I am also flying twice this year, and one time out of the country. So any info would be appreciated here, just post it if anyone has any updates.

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Me too, my flight later this month is to Europe and it isn't likely that there will be much for vape gear readily accessible where I am headed so it had me a bit panicked when I saw that news report but then I forgot until Friday to try to check in to it. Hopefully I don't hit any problems with other countries differing policies if this was false information which so far it looks like it was because the link provided to the FAA does not yield any other notices which seem to support this CBS news story so not sure why they would report that, its weird.

 

[jball49]

Finally talked to Delta customer service. It has NOT changed, you still can NOT have ecigs in your checked baggage but you CAN have them in carry on baggage. This is apparently safer in the FAA's view because if any fire were to start it would be noticed fairly quickly and extinguished compared to a fire in the baggage compartment which could go on longer without being detected or extinguished, supposedly anyway. But good news, now just can't figure out why CBS reported something so blatantly false, obviously their fact checkers at that time of the morning are still asleep!

 

[gtrovil]

I've flown recently. Like 6 weeks ago maybe. They were fine then with it in carry-on. The one TSA that looked at mine said that it was what they like to see which is to say batteries out of mod in a separate case, no liquid in tank and everything powered off and sectioned in a case. They looked at it and let me go no issues. This was domestic though. No idea about international.

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[SMOKIE]

I've flown recently. Like 6 weeks ago maybe. They were fine then with it in carry-on. The one TSA that looked at mine said that it was what they like to see which is to say batteries out of mod in a separate case, no liquid in tank and everything powered off and sectioned in a case. They looked at it and let me go no issues. This was domestic though. No idea about international.

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So how many batteries did you have, and what was your whole set up they looked at? Where was your juice also?

 

[gtrovil]

I took an RX200 so I could just put it on the wall charger when I crashed at night with no worries about getting through the day. The mod, a TFV4 mini, a spare coil and 2 18ml bottles of juice I got to JUST fit in an old large style ego case. Barely. The batteries were in one of the small zippered efest battery cases.

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[SMOKIE]

I took an RX200 so I could just put it on the wall charger when I crashed at night with no worries about getting through the day. The mod, a TFV4 mini, a spare coil and 2 18ml bottles of juice I got to JUST fit in an old large style ego case. Barely. The batteries were in one of the small zippered efest battery cases.

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OK cool because I like to bring 6 bats with me, plus I am checking in baggage so the charger, tanks, extra coils and juice will go in the check in.

 

[gtrovil]

I didn't really know how they would react to charger so I took a mod that I could wall charge. If they even look at it and you explain what it is I'm sure they will be fine with it. They were pretty cool about it I must say.

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[jball49]

I have flown many times with one of my four bay chargers in my checked bag. I think I usually left batteries in it as well and hadn't had any issues in the past but now will probably keep all batteries in the carry on just in case, but I will still put the charger in my checked bag because my carry on gets so full of electronics as it is without adding that.

 

[AmandaD]

I've flown a bunch of times with just carry on luggage and had no problems with anything - nobody has even asked me about my vape gear!

 

[Pancho_Brown]

I'll be flying southwest tomorrow at 3pm. I'll be taking my minivolt with an origin genny, and a 30ml bottle of juice.
I will make sure to keep every one posted, although I just flew in February with no problems at all.

 

[Merrick92]

The report said as of april 1st? Perhaps it was an april fool's joke?

 

[SMOKIE]

UPDATE

URGENT! The US Senate may consider a ban of e-cigs and vapor products in carry on bags on all commercial flights.

Vapor products are already prohibited from being used on flights and from being included in checked baggage this additional prohibition will force consumers to leave their products at home when traveling.

Read more on the action at http://sfata.org/urgent-us-senate-may-consider-ban-e-cigs-carry-bags/ and be sure to share.

 

[Merrick92]

from congressional website:
" SA 3547. Mr. BLUMENTHAL submitted an amendment intended to
be proposed to amendment SA 3464 submitted by Mr. Thune (for
himself and Mr. Nelson) to the bill H.R. 636, supra; which
was ordered to lie on the table."
which means dead in the water.