I don't know if this is the right place for this or not but, just thought I'd through this out there.
Now, most folks here don't know me. Some do but, most don't. I like to kid around and have a tendency to be a "likable smartass". With that thought in mind, I went to ECF and poked a little fun in a radius thread. Before I could get into talking about it, boy did people get pissed! I never said anything negative about the radius. I just made it known (and not aggressively) that I wasn't going to get one. Talked to a couple of folks about my SX Mini and all was good, or so I thought. I was going to start asking questions and got "attacked" by a couple folks there before I got the chance. What the hell happened to people's sense of humor?? I told them what I thought about their attacks and, promptly, got suspended for 3 days for "trolling". Was I?? I didn't think so. I just posted like I always did in a Provape thread.
3 days later, when I got out of their "Sin Bin" (whatever the hell that is/means) I posted this. I checked the rules first to make sure I wasn't breaking any, just in case. 45 minutes later, I'm suspended, again, for 5 days! People sure are touchy over there. Anyways, here's what I posted...
The things that transpire and the outcome of it...
First of all, let's go back in history just a little bit. I heard Provape came out with the Radius. Figured I'd stop by, check things out, see what people are saying about it and, lo and behold, I saw where a few people were having problems with the device (here and in the Dead Radius thread) and the device just came out. So, me being the smart*** that I am (and if you ever read my profile, you would know that about me) I thought I'd poke a little fun. (go back to page 401 and try to let your small minds look at things objectively) AstroTurf was taking it all in stride and, I thought we were having fun. I didn't get 2? maybe 3? posts in and all of a sudden, I've got Robino "watching for shenanigans". I felt like, "Ut, oh! One of the outcasts is here. I'd better watch him close!" and, I'm fairly sure, she had her finger on the "delete post" button which sits right next to the "ban this person" button. But we'll get back to that.
So, things are going along okay (or so I thought) and I talked to a couple of folks about my SX Mini and that they had some also. Even got some good advice from Kasanova about the next version. Like a lot of vapers do, I posted a picture of my SX Mini. Even got a compliment from AstroTurf about it. All of a sudden, a dude pops in with an attitude, grabs me by my shirt collar waistband and tries to toss me out the door!! (Yes, that's how I took your post when I first read it) To which, I made comment about the individuals post and even got 6 "likes" with what I posted so, other folks thought that person was being rude, as well.
I don't know how y'all jump right into a thread and start conversing but, I'll start out joking around a little bit. (see post# 8015). Obviously, you people can't take a joke. (well, 5 people did by the number of "likes") The atmosphere in the thread seemed light enough for the joking and before I could start actually talking about the Radius, the rudeness started.
There used to be a time that I was a proud Provari owner. I even stayed in the "Provarinati" threads here at ECF and didn't venture outside of those. Everyone was welcome whether they had a Provari or not. It was "home" so to speak. People weren't rude, obnoxious or thought less of anyone if they didn't have a Provari. Then the backbiting, backstabbing and senseless "reporting" started. No one knew what a "PM conversation" was (aka. - Take it outside). Pissed a lot of people off and made it very miserable for others that wanted to enjoy the threads. With that going on constantly, it created what people now call the "mass exodus" from the Provarinati.
What I see now has exponentially gotten worse from back then. Unless you own a Provari, or have every intention of getting one, you're not welcome here. If you use a device other than a Provari, you're not welcome here. You're considered a "troll". If people don't see things the way "you folks" see things (not all but some...ok. A lot), you're considered a piece of crap and shouldn't come in here at all. I'm not going to say everyone is this way but, I see an extraordinarily amount of rudeness, self-centeredness, obnoxiousness and people being elitist. Can I name names? Sure I could but, 1) They're not worth my time and 2) They probably already know that about themselves.
I'm going to answer Bravest1995 questions. (Post# 8308) Yes, we are all here for a common goal. To get off the crap (insert favorite brand of Stinky here) I think it's completely awesome that a Provape device works for you to keep you off of them. Worked for me too, for a while. Provape makes fine quality products and has a wonderful customer base that purchases their products. It's just a shame that the attitudes in this area of the forum push people away from a Provape product. I can't think of anyone that wants to hang around with a "holier than thou" type individual(s). Does their product work for everyone? No. As long as it works for some, mission accomplished. Like you said, "We use what we use cuz it works!".
With any luck, and I'm not trying to change the world, at the very least I would hope that all of the above will get some of you to thinking about how you treat others and your demeanor about yourself.
Rubino (I said I'd get back to that) started watching within a post or two of me coming into this thread. Even though I was one of the last of the "mass exodus" people that left back then, she already had a predisposition about the type of person that I "might" be or she wouldn't have had to look for "shenanigans" that soon. Then, classwife had to come in and put her 2¢ worth in. Instead of smashing the crap out of the "delete post" and the "ban that person" buttons, maybe you two should do your "jobs" and knock off some of the "rudeness" in this place instead of being in favor of it (shown by the lack of other posts not being deleted)
The rest of you can go ahead and post your little snide, snarky and immature comments, pictures and gifs after this. I really don't care, won't be here to read them and it will definitely show the type of person you are.
I just don't think I'll be heading back there. I left ECF for the same crap they pulled more than a year ago. It's gotten worse and not worth my time. Shame on me for giving it another try.
