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Tony Stark

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Hey All,

I am currently using LG HE2's in my Reuleaux 2/3. I usually stay with the 2 battery set up as it is more pocket friendly. Anyway I was just wanting to make sure that these batteries are within the safety limits of my builds as I am relatively new to building lower ohm builds. I usually build somewhere around .25 and fire at about 45-50W as I prefer a cooler vape. There are times I build slightly lower, around .15-.19 and fire that between 65-75W. I just want to make sure that this is a safe range as I have done a lot of research but have come up with different things each time. If these batteries are not good for what I am building what would you all recommend. Thanks in advance!!
 

MrScaryZ

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Hey All,

I am currently using LG HE2's in my Reuleaux 2/3. I usually stay with the 2 battery set up as it is more pocket friendly. Anyway I was just wanting to make sure that these batteries are within the safety limits of my builds as I am relatively new to building lower ohm builds. I usually build somewhere around .25 and fire at about 45-50W as I prefer a cooler vape. There are times I build slightly lower, around .15-.19 and fire that between 65-75W. I just want to make sure that this is a safe range as I have done a lot of research but have come up with different things each time. If these batteries are not good for what I am building what would you all recommend. Thanks in advance!!
you are fine at that wattage on the RX 2/3 you are only pulling 12.6 amps just tested it with a 2/3
 

Tony Stark

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you are fine at that wattage on the RX 2/3 you are only pulling 12.6 amps just tested it with a 2/3

Thanks! I just wasn't sure how reliable the amps reading was on the device so I wanted to check with some seasoned vapers. I appreciate the feedback.
 

MrScaryZ

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Thanks! I just wasn't sure how reliable the amps reading was on the device so I wanted to check with some seasoned vapers. I appreciate the feedback.
actually you can compute amp draw here www.steam-engine.org great site all the info . the HE2'S are good for approx 20amps so you are good also in time the way that regulated mods work vs mech's is different you can blast that thing at around 130w so have fun
 

SirRichardRear

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Hey All,

I am currently using LG HE2's in my Reuleaux 2/3. I usually stay with the 2 battery set up as it is more pocket friendly. Anyway I was just wanting to make sure that these batteries are within the safety limits of my builds as I am relatively new to building lower ohm builds. I usually build somewhere around .25 and fire at about 45-50W as I prefer a cooler vape. There are times I build slightly lower, around .15-.19 and fire that between 65-75W. I just want to make sure that this is a safe range as I have done a lot of research but have come up with different things each time. If these batteries are not good for what I am building what would you all recommend. Thanks in advance!!
I made a video to explain it all ;)
 

Tony Stark

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actually you can compute amp draw here www.steam-engine.org great site all the info . the HE2'S are good for approx 20amps so you are good also in time the way that regulated mods work vs mech's is different you can blast that thing at around 130w so have fun

After running a few things through steam-engine I'm realizing I might need some higher amp batteries to hit that 130W mark. either that or different builds...any recommendations?
 

HondaDavidson

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you are good for approx 130-160w with the He2s steam-engine uses strict ohm;s law with your regulated mod the formula is different
3 batts should go to 230 watts at 20 amps battery draw. IDK how high that mod goes. But your batteries should cover any wattage your actually going to want to vape.

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Tony Stark

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you are good for approx 130-160w with the He2s steam-engine uses strict ohm;s law with your regulated mod the formula is different

Ah, didn't realize that. Once I get a better grasp of all this I want to give a mech mod a go. For now I'll stay nice and safe with my regulated mods
 

Tony Stark

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3 batts should go to 230 watts at 20 amps battery draw. IDK how high that mod goes. But your batteries should cover any wattage your actually going to want to vape.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk

Thanks for that info. I wasn't 100% sure since a lot of people I know who vape use mechs and not regulated. That would explain a lof of the contradicting info I've been given.
 

SirRichardRear

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Ah, didn't realize that. Once I get a better grasp of all this I want to give a mech mod a go. For now I'll stay nice and safe with my regulated mods
the video i posted for you explains every in an easy to understand way ;) the the description of the video has short numbers that are safe to use. you should be good to go once you watch it but if not feel free to ask any questions
 

Tony Stark

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the video i posted for you explains every in an easy to understand way ;) the the description of the video has short numbers that are safe to use. you should be good to go once you watch it but if not feel free to ask any questions

Thanks. If I have any more questions I'll be sure to ask. Just have to get the baby fed and to bed and I'll be giving it a watch.
 

SirRichardRear

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Thanks. If I have any more questions I'll be sure to ask. Just have to get the baby fed and to bed and I'll be giving it a watch.
Nice! kids come first for sure. thats why i record all my videos at night when everyone is sleeping but me and my dogs lol
 

HondaDavidson

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Thanks for that info. I wasn't 100% sure since a lot of people I know who vape use mechs and not regulated. That would explain a lof of the contradicting info I've been given.
Regulated mods use Watts law for battery drain...... Steam engine does also if you enter the correct values. Note on the battery tab.. the draw at the atty and draw at the battery.... don't forget to adjust battery volts to account for the number of batteries if in series. Or amps for parallel.

Mech use ohms law to calculate amp draw because the atty draws power directly from the battery. In a regulated mod the atty draws power from the PCB at various voltages based on your desired outcome... you could say the atty doesn't affect the battery in a regulated mod. Only the requested wattage output does..


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Tony Stark

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Nice! kids come first for sure. thats why i record all my videos at night when everyone is sleeping but me and my dogs lol

Awesome video, very informative. I guess my only question would be, the amperage thats showing on my screen is higher than what I'm actually using? For example right now I'm running a dual parallel coil 26/32 clapton with 24g kanthal coming in at .21 ohms. At 75w its showing the amps at about 18.5ish give or take fluctuation of .2-.3 so in reality its actually lower than that?
 

Tony Stark

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Regulated mods use Watts law for battery drain...... Steam engine does also if you enter the correct values. Note on the battery tab.. the draw at the atty and draw at the battery.... don't forget to adjust battery volts to account for the number of batteries if in series. Or amps for parallel.

Mech use ohms law to calculate amp draw because the atty draws power directly from the battery. In a regulated mod the atty draws power from the PCB at various voltages based on your desired outcome... you could say the atty doesn't affect the battery in a regulated mod. Only the requested wattage output does..


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Looks like I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the tip
 

SirRichardRear

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Awesome video, very informative. I guess my only question would be, the amperage thats showing on my screen is higher than what I'm actually using? For example right now I'm running a dual parallel coil 26/32 clapton with 24g kanthal coming in at .21 ohms. At 75w its showing the amps at about 18.5ish give or take fluctuation of .2-.3 so in reality its actually lower than that?
Your screen shows the amp output from the mod which is different from the amp draw on the batteries

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IMFire3605

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Hey All,

I am currently using LG HE2's in my Reuleaux 2/3. I usually stay with the 2 battery set up as it is more pocket friendly. Anyway I was just wanting to make sure that these batteries are within the safety limits of my builds as I am relatively new to building lower ohm builds. I usually build somewhere around .25 and fire at about 45-50W as I prefer a cooler vape. There are times I build slightly lower, around .15-.19 and fire that between 65-75W. I just want to make sure that this is a safe range as I have done a lot of research but have come up with different things each time. If these batteries are not good for what I am building what would you all recommend. Thanks in advance!!

Ohm's Law as you are thinking 4.2v/ohms=amps is for unregulated/mech mods, the 2/3 is a regulated which uses another Ohm's Law formula more easily remembered as Watts Law

Set Watts/Lowest Charge of the Batteries before Shutoff/90% chipset efficiency=Max Amps (lowest battery charge is where a regulated pulls more amps compared to a mech it is at fresh charge, voltage needed for a set wattage is higher than what the batteries can supply, the chipset pulls raw amps from the batteries and boosts them into extra voltage to compensate). General lowest battery charge is about 3.2v per battery on most mods, the 2/3 being in series voltage is doubled so 3.2v X 2batteries = 6.4volts, triple setup would be 3.2v X 3 batteries = 9.6volts.

The HE2 is a very nice, very strong battery and very reliable. Though to get up above 130watts you'll be needing either Samsung 25R batteries, or to keep the same Mah rating and gain an extra 5amps CDR, the Sony VTC5A 2500mah is an excellent choice as well (not the older 2600mah 20amp CDR VTC5, the VTC5A is newer 100mah lower but 5amps CDR higher).
 

Tony Stark

Member For 4 Years
Ohm's Law as you are thinking 4.2v/ohms=amps is for unregulated/mech mods, the 2/3 is a regulated which uses another Ohm's Law formula more easily remembered as Watts Law

Set Watts/Lowest Charge of the Batteries before Shutoff/90% chipset efficiency=Max Amps (lowest battery charge is where a regulated pulls more amps compared to a mech it is at fresh charge, voltage needed for a set wattage is higher than what the batteries can supply, the chipset pulls raw amps from the batteries and boosts them into extra voltage to compensate). General lowest battery charge is about 3.2v per battery on most mods, the 2/3 being in series voltage is doubled so 3.2v X 2batteries = 6.4volts, triple setup would be 3.2v X 3 batteries = 9.6volts.

The HE2 is a very nice, very strong battery and very reliable. Though to get up above 130watts you'll be needing either Samsung 25R batteries, or to keep the same Mah rating and gain an extra 5amps CDR, the Sony VTC5A 2500mah is an excellent choice as well (not the older 2600mah 20amp CDR VTC5, the VTC5A is newer 100mah lower but 5amps CDR higher).

I'm actually due for new new batteries soon and am deciding between the getting the HE2's again or trying the 25R for that extra oomph just incase I want to play around a little but. I was looking at the VCT5's but I can get a much better deal on the other two about $2 cheaper a piece so I can order more of them
 

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