Safety and suggestion questions

[JERUS]

So, I have this new "tank" (Haze Dripper Tank) and I'm running a .18Ω coil. According to Ohms law on my 4.2v regulated mod that's 98w (23amps).

I'm curious about getting a mech mod for it so I can interchange batteries I have instead of having to charge this thing regularly.

So my question, what can I get that will safely run this and is 22mm diameter?

I'm enjoying the sleek design of what I have but like I said charging it is going to be a pain (oldschool pen type charging, no USB and no battery replacing). So again I was thinking a mech option could solve those woes. Of course then I'm dealing with variable wattage as the battery loses charge but I think it'll be fine as when the voltage drops and the performance goes I can just pop in another 18650 battery which I have in abundance already and keep going. But, is it safe? All my batteries are the Samsung IMR... something 25r (green samsungs). As I understand it I should be safe but not really interested in blowing myself up and figured asking those more knowledgeable would be a good idea before I move forward.

I've been having a lot of fun learning more and have really dove into coil building. I feel like I got the hang of that, but I still haven't gone to a mech yet. I want to make sure I'm doing things safely when I do.

 

[OBDave]

Why not look into a high-wattage regulated device? Those Samsung 25r5 (the green ones, the blue ones are just 25r) would work great - in a mech you'd be pushing them a little beyond their limit, as 23 amps at full charge is beyond the 20 amp limit of either 25r battery.

For a mech, you'd want Sony VTC3 or VTC4, which are 30 amp batteries (not the VTC5, that's a 20 amp) - they're regularly counterfeited, though, so use caution and buy from a trusted vendor, never an Amazon or eBay seller. LG now makes a battery called the HB2 that goes to 30 amp, but like the VTC3 it's limited in lifespan at only 1500 mah (the VTC4 is 2000 mah, still lower than the 2500 mah your Sammies are providing).

I've got a big beginner thread that touches on beginner mech safety (and a lot of other things) in the Help I Have Questions sub, would recommend checking it out if you've got 15 minutes to spare...

 

[JERUS]

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for.

My concern is basically that the regulated device I have, or more devices just don't suite my needs. I have one that sleek and nice but requires regular recharging, which is a pain. My other regulated devices are bulkier and likewise not what I want. If I can get batteries that will fit a mech that's the correct size I'm down to purchase them (sounds like I can)

As I understand it, the Samsungs I have are capable of the 23amp range, but become bordering unsafe ranges (can heat up), if I can grab VTC4s or HB2s and be completely safe that's very much worth it. The idea being I can grab a couple of those, swap as needed, be safe and satisfied.

My goal is simply something that I can carry backups that I can swap in, while still being able to grab the performance I desire. I carry my backpack full of batteries and juice in my car, so that's not a concern as much as safety and performance. My sleeker regulated mod lasted about an hour, but then it's back on a 3+ hour recharge hardly what I want.

Anyways thanks for the feedback. Sounds like I should pick up some new batteries and grab myself an unregulated mod that will fit... unless there is a nice tube regulated mod that has replaceable batteries? I just haven't seen one, they're all box mods and a bit bulkier than I want.

Clouds are hardly my goal as much as a satisfying feeling. I feel that smaller clouds generally don't hit my throat in a way that satisfies my need for that smoking feeling. So that's my only desire there. I have no problem adding an extra wrap or two (increasing resistance) as long as it tickles my throat just right.

 

[Neunerball]

I'd definitely get some VCT4 for a mech mod. However, due to the resistance you're planning on using, the battery won't last long. According to steam engine, it would last ca. 6 Minutes, or 74 drags (@ 5 Seconds).
Here's the place where I get my Sony batteries from http://liionwholesale.com/collectio...2100mah-flat-top-wholesale?variant=1038136780. They are shipping fast, and are reliable.

 

[JERUS]

Yeah that was my plan for the company. Now I just need to find a well priced nice feeling/looking tube mech. And I may redo the build and add a few wraps but that's what I made on my first go around with my new Haze Dripper Tank, and it's been wonderful on my Aspire SubΩ battery, just like you said it drains quick being that low of resistance, but again, it's heavenly.

 

[JERUS]

Guess I just found a regulated one, didn't see it last time I had looked around the Aspire website, but http://www.aspirecig.com/products/MOD/mod184.html

So Merry Christmas to me. I take it if I'm running what I'm running I should still grab the higher amp batteries?

 

[OBDave]

Interesting - I like the idea of the button light to monitor voltage and remind you that it's time to swap when the button changes color - wish it did it at 3.7 instead of 3.5, though. But yeah, that should work with some good 30 amp batteries for safety...if you're willing to add a couple wraps and bump your build above 0.25 or so you could potentially even keep the batteries you've got.

When you say your Sammies are "capable of the 23amp range" you're probably going off the "pulse" or "burst" rating - while some people will use this when considering their builds, I don't recommend it - the highest they're safely rated to continuously discharge is 20 amps, with a safety "burst" factor built in for accidental shorts or battery malfunctions, not for pushing your luck...

 

[BigNasty]

OK seriously confused.
The aspire is .3-1.0 how can it push the .15?
At a bare min. instead of a mech which is going to curve south rather quickly in performance.. why not a 100w+ reg box?

 

[JERUS]

That's exactly what I meant. I'd not be exceeding the burst/pulse ratings, and only slightly exceeding the continuous, I figured that means I'd be pretty safe, but not completely safe, which is why I've already ordered some VTC4s from liionwholesale. Also already wrapped a coil of the same wire with 2 extra wraps which should chime in closer to .25 . If the quality isn't as good I'll have the batteries capable, if the quality is good enough I'll have both things pushing me well within safety guidelines.

Eek, you're right BigNasty, the SubΩ battery I have is rated for .3Ω-1.0Ω, I've used two full charges on it so far, not noticed any heating and certainly no venting. But, thanks, that's a screw up on my part. I didn't notice such restrictions on that replaceable battery mod I have coming though. Should I be concerned?

The reason I wanted what I want is that I want a sleeker setup. I have a few regulated box mods which I'm using other tanks on. Of all the mods I've had the 22g tube has felt the best, and with this new topper it just looks so good. I did toss it on one of my box mods last night and ramped it up a bit and was amazed at how cool the topper is running compared to my other tanks at similar wattages. Warm would be an overstatement, not cold would be more like it.

Anyways thanks both of you for the feedback. Of course I want to be safe, if not just for me for those around me.

Quick add, it is strange that it's accepted this new topper running .18Ω considering I've had higher resistance tank builds that it's denied. I wonder if my ohmmeter is acting up? It's been pretty dead on matching my regulated mods that report the resistance.