Sigelei 213W Questions

[Khaoticfury]

I don't know if anyone has had hands-on with the Sigelei 213W, but just in case, I have some questions:

1. How does the chip fare vs the DNA 200 in the TC arena?
2. Is there a button "lock" to prevent accidental up/down button presses?
3. When is the estimated release date/period?

I am looking at upgrading my RX200, and trying to decide between this and the Realeaux DNA 200. Just wish this came in a dark black, to match the Black Griffin 25 RTA I pre-ordered!

 

[ej1024]

I will go with the DNA...
You can put a SKIN on the REALEAUX if you want to MATCHY MATCHY...


VAPE IT

 

[rice721]

As of today 4/7/2016 the Sigelei 213 isn't purchasable for the mass market yet.

And agreeing with the above posting, a DNA200 or the coming Yihi sx450 chip is still the most advanced chip on the market.

 

[Khaoticfury]

I try to read up on all the specs and reviews of all mods/tanks, but i can't help but notice how "die hard" certain fans are. I have noticed a large percentage of RTA fans are die hard about Griffin, and for mods they are die hard about Sigelei. This got me into ordering the Gemini RTA, which is pretty much an upgraded Griffin, and I love it. Thats why I am leaning towards the Sigelei. I have a good friend and coworker that is a proud member of the Sigelei die hards, and when people are that fanatical about a brand, it generally means it is a very good product.

I have heard alot of good things about the DNA 200 chipset, but I have to wonder if it falls victim to being surpassed by newer chipsets, like the new Yihi or the upcoming Sigelei.

 

[StereoFreeze]

I'm wanting to check out the 213 as well. It was designed in collaboration with Suprimo and I quite like the mod they put out called the Spade.

 

[Neunerball]

I have heard alot of good things about the DNA 200 chipset, but I have to wonder if it falls victim to being surpassed by newer chipsets, like the new Yihi or the upcoming Sigelei.

If those new chipsets are providing the ability that the DNA200 has with Escribe, then there might be a chance. IMO, there's nothing better than the DNA200. I have a Reuleaux DNA200, and a Whitecloud DNA200, as well as a VTC Mini, RX200, and a IPV4s. The DNA200 beats all of those three in TC.

 

[Khaoticfury]

so noone knows a general timeframe for release?

 

[Khaoticfury]

so VapeNW just told me it is expected to be released later this month! Can't wait.

 

[Fictitious Character]

If you are open to pre-orders Vape NW has the 213 in their 20% off pre-order list. If you use the code: 20%offPre-Orders for a total of $99.99

As to when it will get released, I have no idea.

 

[Khaoticfury]

Yeah I think i am decided. I am going to pre-order the Sigelei.

From the review I saw (VapeNW), it hits fast, has adjustable ramp up, and doesnt require any software to adjust.

 

[Fictitious Character]

Yeah I think i am decided. I am going to pre-order the Sigelei.

From the review I saw (VapeNW), it hits fast, has adjustable ramp up, and doesnt require any software to adjust.

I look forward to your impressions then. I am not real big into Sig stuff but I use a 150tc as a work beater and so far it has yet to let me down.

 

[centella4u]

IMHO, I think this one will probably make an entrance (and opening) at the Shenzhen expo later this weekend.


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[Deucesjack]

Anyone know if the 213 is going to be upgradeable? I love the Sigs I currently own but not being upgradeable has been a deal breaker for me.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

If you want to buy the Sig because you just want it then get it. I however wouldn't buy it because you think it's going to better at TC than a DNA200. As far as I'm concerned the DNA200 is top dog for TC. If I just wanted to try something different it would be the new Yihi SX450.

Cheers,
Steve

PS. When a company has to stoop to a gimmick in order to try and make sales, I run don't walk away. To me trying to squeeze more than 100 watts per 18650 is a gimmick at best.

 

[skt239]

If you want to buy the Sig because you just want it then get it. I however wouldn't buy it because you think it's going to better at TC than a DNA200. As far as I'm concerned the DNA200 is top dog for TC. If I just wanted to try something different it would be the new Yihi SX450.

Cheers,
Steve

PS. When a company has to stoop to a gimmick in order to try and make sales, I run don't walk away. To me trying to squeeze more than 100 watts per 18650 is a gimmick at best.

Amen to that... After the 150 watt touch screen joke they put out, I don't have much faith in their new products.

Edit to add... If you are concerned with TC but don't want to spring for a DNA, then I would look at the IPV5. I got one recently and have been talking it up more and more. The longer I've had it, the greater my appreciation grows for it. All of my mods seem to operate the same way in TC, basically like vaping kanthal that suddenly cuts back drastically once it hits temp. With the IPV5, you can feel the vape changing through your entire toot. It's almost as if its changing the the power output as the resistance changes rather than one abrupt change when it reaches temp. I understand that the DNA uses dynamic voltage output or something like that and while I don't have any experience with the DNA, it seems like the IPV is doing something closer to that than what I'm used to. I'm probably way off so hopefully someone can set me straight. BTW - I've only used it in SS TC.

 

[Khaoticfury]

If you want to buy the Sig because you just want it then get it. I however wouldn't buy it because you think it's going to better at TC than a DNA200. As far as I'm concerned the DNA200 is top dog for TC. If I just wanted to try something different it would be the new Yihi SX450.

Cheers,
Steve

PS. When a company has to stoop to a gimmick in order to try and make sales, I run don't walk away. To me trying to squeeze more than 100 watts per 18650 is a gimmick at best.

It's not that I think it will handle TC better than DNA 200. What I am saying is that the way it handles TC is better than what I have now, and doesn't require the software that DNA 200 does. It is simplified, yet robust.

And some people keep saying this or that is better than the Sigelei 213w. These are people who havent used it yet. Noone knows how this new chip will perform. I am hoping for the best, and understand it is a gamble pre-ordering this.

 

[PaulS]

The IPV5 is in my rotation. It hits like a brick shit house. I'm not big on TC anyway. But the IPV5 works well in both TC and power mode. Now i had a DNA200. I'm one of those guys that happens to be a Yihi fan though. I've yet to be disappointed with any of their chip sets. I have the IPV5, the Swoop and the Sx Mini ML. I'll eventually pop for a mod with the SX450 chip - just waiting see what will be released as we know something will be - something always is.

Sigelei fans like their mods because they are robust. I've owned a few and now my son has one - the !50TC which was one of their better mods and a friend I turned on to vaping has my Sig 100w. Both work as well as the day I purchased them. Neither ever had an issue with any atomizer attached to them. For me though that is not really enough of a recommendation. I have a number of older mods still ticking and taking a beating. I'm intrigued by the 213w because it looks lovely and I like the fact i can adjust the ramp up in power mode as well as TC. But I question wether it will perform better than a DNA200 chip or a Yihi chip which both do the same.

 

[84Harley]

I've preordered both the brass and gunmetal, these will be my 1st Segelei's. I didn't buy to compare to my DNA's, bought them simply for their looks and power, since I've recently also purchased the Boreas and the Aromamizer Supreme......I need more power Scotty!!

 

[Wingsfan0310]

What I've noticed about Sig though @PaulS is they no longer seem to be using Yihi chips so the robust reputation thing is out the window for me. I obviously prefer the DNA200 chip, but I'll also steer people towards Yihi's top chips. To me those two are the king of the hill now, especially for TC.

My other problem with Sig is that I think advertising a dual 18650 mod as over 200 watts is jumping the shark. It's funny how Evolv limits their DNA200 to 133 watts when using two 18650's but other companies are now releasing mods at 200+ watts using the same power supply. You have to ask yourself why? It cracks me up, people that have SX Mini's know that if they try to drive their mod at 75 watts there battery life will be horrendous. Yet Yihi themselves are now coming out with a 200 watt mod using two 18650's. If that's really doable, why aren't we seeing single 18650 mods at 100+ watts?

In the end I want a mod that can actually deliver it's claimed specs throughout the runtime of it's batteries. Not just for the first few puffs or with an extremely limited resistance range. I'm old school - I believe it's better to under promise and over deliver instead of over promising and under delivering.

PS IMO Dual 18650 mods should be capped at no higher than 150 watts so that that can actually deliver as promised along with runtimes that are not measured in mere minutes

PSS @84Harley I only mentioned the DNA200 because the OP asked "1. How does the chip fare vs the DNA 200 in the TC arena?" in his first post.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Mythical_OD]

For my next regulated mod Im gonna be looking at the new 300w device that just came out (Think its called the Spartan or something of the sort). Not that Ill use 300w ever, its just nice to have basically unlimited power. Plus with 3 18650s youre gonna get really good battery life and lets face it, its new and it looks cool, and as much as we want the best performance and all that, its nice to have shit that looks good and not many other people have.

 

[skt239]

For my next regulated mod Im gonna be looking at the new 300w device that just came out (Think its called the Spartan or something of the sort). Not that Ill use 300w ever, its just nice to have basically unlimited power. Plus with 3 18650s youre gonna get really good battery life and lets face it, its new and it looks cool, and as much as we want the best performance and all that, its nice to have shit that looks good and not many other people have.

Are you thinking of the Kooper Primus?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Are you thinking of the Kooper Primus?

It's a different 300 watt mod called THE VAPMOD SPARTANS. Here's a link if you are curious.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[skt239]

If I had to choose between the two, I'd get the Kooper

 

[Wingsfan0310]

If I had to choose between the two, I'd get the Kooper

I might be forced to go back to smoking if someone made me choose lmao

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Khaoticfury]

ok now i am getting worried...VapeNW dropped the pre-order price from 125 to 100.......does this mean bad things for this mod???

 

[Khaoticfury]

starting to doubt myself....catching myself peeking at Yihi Q Class

 

[Khaoticfury]

Damn. Yihi Q Class only has 22mm connector...so 25mm overhangs....and I use 25mm RTA's....

 

[VaporCarp]

Damn. Yihi Q Class only has 22mm connector...so 25mm overhangs....and I use 25mm RTA's....

That blows

 

[Khaoticfury]

That blows

yep....that may be my deciding factor

 

[Khaoticfury]

one day from my deadline....95% sure on Sigelei for pre-order......

 

[PaulS]

I figure - why pre order. They will be for trade or sale in the Hardware forum in a month.

 

[Khaoticfury]

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I figure - why pre order. They will be for trade or sale in the Hardware forum in a month.

with VapeNW you get 20% off pre-orders bringing the price down to $80

 

[Wingsfan0310]

In my experience, mods normally drop in price after release. There are quite a few instances when people preorder, that they could have got it cheaper and quicker if they would have just waited until it was actually hitting the shops.

My opinion is I don't preorder for the stated reason above. On top of that you are dealing with a new chip and mod and imo it would be better to get some reviews from fellow vapers. Just mt 2 cents.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Deucesjack]

Does anyone know if this mod is upgradeable?

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[Khaoticfury]

Does anyone know if this mod is upgradeable?

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yeah it's upgradeable

 

[DevAuto]

I really hope I can get my hands on one of these. It just looks really awesome.

 

[Khaoticfury]

Yeah people keep trying to tell me to get a DNA 200 instead, but i like the simplicity of the Sigelei, and it can do the same things from the settings...even the curves and ramp up wattage/time....

 

[DevAuto]

Yeah people keep trying to tell me to get a DNA 200 instead, but i like the simplicity of the Sigelei, and it can do the same things from the settings...even the curves and ramp up wattage/time....

That's exactly why I want to get my hands on one of these. I have a DNA 200, and I HATE that I have to use escribe to tailor it. Admittedly, the newer firmware puts a lot more customization options on the mod, but you still have to set everything up in escribe first and upload it all to the mod before it can be used. Outside of that issue (well, for me it's an issue), I think my DNA is the best performer of them all, but only by a nominal margin.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

The newest firmware comes with Ni200, Ti01, SS316l already in the material tab. I really don't understand why hooking a mod up to Escribe is a big deal for further customization. Any mod has to be hooked up to a PC to be updated, never hear people complain about that. Seems like people that can find themselves around the internet just fine are put out by using their computer to be able to customize their mod like no other can be.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[DevAuto]

I take issue with it because I'm not always near a computer when I need to make an adjustment. If I need to adjust TCR from .092 to .096 (just random numbers), if I haven't already pre-loaded the settings, I have to wait until I can get to a computer to do so. I would personally prefer to do it on the mod so I can make adjustments on the fly.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I load every material I think I would ever use in the material tab. Once you have done that it can be switched on the fly. I don't mess around with the TCR like that. I set the one appropriate for the material then fine tune TC by raising and lowering the Temperature. You can also adjust power as needed. Are you saying for example if you are using 316L you constantly adjust the TCR to fine tune your vape?

 

[DevAuto]

I load every material I think I would ever use in the material tab. Once you have done that it can be switched on the fly. I don't mess around with the TCR like that. I set the one appropriate for the material then fine tune TC by raising and lowering the Temperature. You can also adjust power as needed. Are you saying for example if you are using 316L you constantly adjust the TCR to fine tune your vape?

Not constantly, however I have discovered that I do somewhat frequently need to adjust the TCR to fine tune for a specific coil/tank/juice/flavor. For example, if I pulse a coil clean, rewick it, and put in a new flavor, I *may* need to do a TCR adjustment up or down (but not always). Sometimes I just can't get the tuning I really want from temp/power adjustments. This is where it really comes in handy to be able to experiment on the mod for the perfect settings.