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ej1024

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DNA200 chips require 3 lipo or lion batteries in series (11.1V) to put out the full 200 watts. You can run the chip with 2 batteries in series, but it's limited to 133 watts output (iirc).

Edit I'm not saying the Jaybo/Wismec can be run with only 2 batteries, only that the chip can operate with 2 batteries.
Thank you for the info..


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Yeah, it does need 3 18650's to get close to the 200 watt output, if it was 2 it would be limited to 133 watts. You do have to go into escribe and change the battery parameters, not something they tell you which is BS but something I learned about here in this forum. That is not a Reuleaux problem but a DNA 200 problem as there default setting is 720 mah for batteries which is why my battery indicator was off.
 

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You are talking about a quantity wholesale price, retail for a new one is still going to be in the $150 range. You have to figure in shipping as well per unit and if you ordered 10 how much would that be.
Shipping is $35 for the 10 units, via DHL. Most companies are ordering 50 at a time which brings the shipping price per unit down even more.

Elego out of china has a minimum of qty 5 for $100 each. A quantity that low could probably ship e-packet. Elego also claims (true or not) they can supply 5000 units per week if need be. Wismec is pumping these out fast

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They would pump them out fast if they didn't run out of DNA 200 chips, that is why it is hard to find any in stock, most are all pre-orders. Some I have seen are expecting there next shipment in a month. Not trying to argue here but if there was a ton out there then why are most retailers out of stock?
 

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Shipping is $35 for the 10 units, via DHL. Most companies are ordering 50 at a time which brings the shipping price per unit down even more.

Elego out of china has a minimum of qty 5 for $100 each. A quantity that low could probably ship e-packet. Elego also claims (true or not) they can supply 5000 units per week if need be. Wismec is pumping these out fast

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Is this company legit??
If that will be the price let's do a group buy


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They would pump them out fast if they didn't run out of DNA 200 chips, that is why it is hard to find any in stock, most are all pre-orders. Some I have seen are expecting there next shipment in a month. Not trying to argue here but if there was a ton out there then why are most retailers out of stock?

They have the chip sets. The pre-orders over the last month had to ship first. Give it another couple weeks and everyone will have them in stock. There are a bunch on ebay right now in stock if you want to deal with a scalper over pricing them
 

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Is this company legit??
If that will be the price let's do a group buy

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Sino-Cig is who offered them to me at $101. The problem is, the cost involved dealing with a DOA, should that occur. Buying 100 of them and making a 70 dollar profit off each one, you can absorb the cost of a few returns. Not the case with a group buy.
 

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Evolve will sell chips for what they want. Wholesale pricing is wholesale pricing. Then you have a premium top of the line chip, and there is no point to going full retard and giving them away. You mark them up as usual and make profit.

Hcigar is cheap, but good. They are trying to get a better name. MAP pricing for a VT200 is $170. I bought mine for $90. No warrantee for breaking MAP pricing. I don't care for that price. WISMEC is not doing anything special, and they are not giving them away. Sigelei has a good name. They are not doing anything special, and they are not giving them away.

The Vero has been out for a while and it is triple 18650. It's not new. Several other custom 3/18650s out there. For the size of 3/18650 you can have a lighter lipo with higher capacity and none of the limitations. This isn't ground breaking.

Bottom line is Evolve is at the top of the heap right now. Yihi is playing catch up. Everyone else is a step behind. A metric shit ton of budget cut rate makers out there. It's a hard market to dominate. There is no market for high end budget gear. You either keep your profit margin at the top, or you jump in the swamp. No money in doing both.
 

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I know it's not the dna200, but it will compete with it. I just had the Reuleaux offered to me for $101 qty 10, from Sino-cig out of china. No proof, but I believe the dna200 chipset is now massed produced in a chinese electronics factory, thus, inexpensive now. I don't think evolv could produce this many chipsets this fast out of their small building in Ohio.
I'm pretty sure it is made in China, but evolve isn't giving them away. I'm pretty sure they were always produced in China. But Evolve can't meet demand. Most custom shops are waiting on chips. Prices don't fall when demand is high. Nothing has changed. It is a premium chip, and it commands premium prices. Evolve hit a home run, and they can't make them fast enough. Very few custom shops are even messing with Yihi now.
 

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Hope so! My noisy cricket and Reuleaux are coming from them. Great prices just slow processing and shipping.


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My problem with this LIPOs is that you can't be sure what u have, I feel more safer vaping when I know what battery is Inside you know.
My current adv I can't really trust this LIPOs


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Well some manufacturers tell you what LIPO is inside and you can always replace them the benefit of the LIPO is actually being able to push more than 30amps continuous.. Now given the fact that most of us do not push that high but if you do wander to 150 watts your amps will go way up and a triple 18650 is amp limited the only time you will ever notice this is when you are pushing high watts with a low ohm coil
 

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Well some manufacturers tell you what LIPO is inside and you can always replace them the benefit of the LIPO is actually being able to push more than 30amps continuous.. Now given the fact that most of us do not push that high but if you do wander to 150 watts your amps will go way up and a triple 18650 is amp limited the only time you will ever notice this is when you are pushing high watts with a low ohm coil
Thanks for the info bro,
but!! I see a lot of negatives about LIPO life though, I mean OK LIPO has more amps, but what is the point if u can't last half a day?
I'm not an engineer or techincal person but I'd rather switch batteries rather than keep charging it..
IMO


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My Vapor Shark which has the lowest is the same as my 3000 mah Lg 18650. Maybe a bit more. Ful charge in 90 minutes. One charge will last me half a day to full day depending. I always have two mods anyway. I'm no slave to a charger. And that is the smallest lipo.
 

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Thanks for the info bro,
but!! I see a lot of negatives about LIPO life though, I mean OK LIPO has more amps, but what is the point if u can't last half a day?
I'm not an engineer or techincal person but I'd rather switch batteries rather than keep charging it..
IMO


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Surely I agree I do love the DNA 200 but it is not my only device I use daily if I vape at a typical 50-70watts I will get right around half a day at 1300mah but then again I vape alot and chain vape much.. I have changed the way I look at devices and my vaping if I am going to seriously use TC then I grab the dna 200 the rest of the day I use any freaking mod that is dual battery and handy best to have multiple devices put them everywhere like one in your trunk your gove compartment maybe one by your commode ..hehe :) Now in all common sense let me give you a review of my last 2.5 years I have yet to have one device last me all day single or dual battery.. Just some food for thought
 

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Surely I agree I do love the DNA 200 but it is not my only device I use daily if I vape at a typical 50-70watts I will get right around half a day at 1300mah but then again I vape alot and chain vape much.. I have changed the way I look at devices and my vaping if I am going to seriously use TC then I grab the dna 200 the rest of the day I use any freaking mod that is dual battery and handy best to have multiple devices put them everywhere like one in your trunk your gove compartment maybe one by your commode ..hehe :) Now in all common sense let me give you a review of my last 2.5 years I have yet to have one device last me all day single or dual battery.. Just some food for thought
Wow.....
So you are a chain VAPER
You are absolutely correct,
I'm no a chain VAPER and I get 2 days from my sig 150


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Wow.....
So you are a chain VAPER
You are absolutely correct,
I'm no a chain VAPER and I get 2 days from my sig 150


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Yep mostly in the morning I will rip through 10ml of juice like its a snickers bar
 
I just ordered a SMY Sdna 200. This will be my first Dna so Im freaking pumped. It was that or a Sig 150 tc. I do a lot of Tc so the Dna seemed like a better choice. Please correct me if im wrong
 

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I just ordered a SMY Sdna 200. This will be my first Dna so Im freaking pumped. It was that or a Sig 150 tc. I do a lot of Tc so the Dna seemed like a better choice. Please correct me if im wrong
I don't use TC but based on what I read and watched the DNA 200 Is the best TC chip
There's too many negatives about the SIG 150 TC mode...



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MrScaryZ

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Drip or tank? WOW


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Both constantly like now I can barely talk its like my head is blowing off from all the steam... this morning I am using a Old Vulcan RDA and a Bellus with clapton coils in it I have already downed 5ml or 7ml looks like I may hit 15ml by noon
 

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Both constantly like now I can barely talk its like my head is blowing off from all the steam... this morning I am using a Old Vulcan RDA and a Bellus with clapton coils in it I have already downed 5ml or 7ml looks like I may hit 15ml by noon
Damnnnnm ur juice must be that good... What's ur nic mg?


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Damnnnnm ur juice must be that good... What's ur nic mg?


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I vape at 6mg both tank and rda its not about the taste of juice to me man I am a nicotine addict been this way for 30+ years I need nicotine and alot
 

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I vape at 6mg both tank and rda its not about the taste of juice to me man I am a nicotine addict been this way for 30+ years I need nicotine and alot
Damn.....
My co worker that I started into vaping. He loves the nic hit... He vapes 9mg on a dripper... He's wife tells me he VAPE while he's asleep...
Don't you get nic sick? I mean shit ur non stop?? I haven't vape since I woke up 530am PST
I'm about to though


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Damn.....
My co worker that I started into vaping. He loves the nic hit... He vapes 9mg on a dripper... He's wife tells me he VAPE while he's asleep...
Don't you get nic sick? I mean shit ur non stop?? I haven't vape since I woke up 530am PST
I'm about to though


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I did before I dropped my Nic level I guess over time I have learned to art of not always deeply inhaling.. If I did not vape even for 30 minutes I may eat one of my Huskies or something or worse..
 

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I just ordered a SMY Sdna 200. This will be my first Dna so Im freaking pumped. It was that or a Sig 150 tc. I do a lot of Tc so the Dna seemed like a better choice. Please correct me if im wrong
No you were correct and once you get tired of TC like I am atleast you can build your own screens on your DNA 200
 

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I did before I dropped my Nic level I guess over time I have learned to art of not always deeply inhaling.. If I did not vape even for 30 minutes I may eat one of my Huskies or something or worse..
Do you get shaky or something when you don't get enough nic?? Why can't up ur nic and VAPE less?


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And why are you tired of TC. Just asking.
good question... here is my answer its a bit long but you probably will understand.. Once I tagged down TC to the highest level I realized that really I was not doing anything different that I had done before for me I like to use the RDA alot and to be frank I have never really burnt cotton anyway so after fooling with the DNA 200 until I drove myself mad and trying every combination I realized... Ummm I actually preferred having TC turned off. I cannot explain it but on a RDA for the most part there was no difference for me the way I wick etc .. So in the end I am so glad I got the DNA 200 for all the reasons of quality and configuration I did not get it for the TC I used the TC I still do I have profiles for everything but do I know when I switch between profiles fire up one of my fancy screens and switch from TC to no TC? the answer is No.. Out of all the TC craze one thing that I benefited more than anything that was trying all the different wire.. I now only use SS preferably 304 SS ... make sense?
 

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I get that. I wanted TC to prevent burnt hits. But then I got a Crown and figured out burnt hits is a wicking problem and not exactly a temp problem. So to speak. I wanted SS in TC for the advantages of SS. Then the Crown SS coils taught me TC still burns cotton and it's not that accurate.

Now I run my temp around 450-500. It will burn dry cotton, but it's a comfortable slightly warm Vape. TC for me is more about limiting power output, more than it is about delivering an accurate vape temp. I like the fast initial heat up and then a lower temp vape. Now I know the issues with crown SS coils in TC, I limit temp and power to give me a good vape without a lung full of cotton smoke if the resistance decides to go wacko.
 

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