It's still a good question
@barberguy. Sometimes threads have a way of getting lost, especially when you want an answer like, NOW PLEASE, lol. I giggled at
@GargoyleK1's reply, though.
I used to time steep, then I started crock pot steeping. I tried hot water in a cup steeping. Now I kinda time steep if overnight counts.
ETA: Shake-n-vape is good sometimes, too!