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So I've had my Kanger subtanks for a while now. I constantly get spitback from them. :confused:
I've got 60vg or higher in them... Run them between 22-30 watts... .5ohm vertical coils.

Anyone else have this trouble?
What did you do to remedy it?
 

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I get that and vape around the same range as you do, slightly lower wattage , I always get the spit back, burny pops on my tongue too.always with the OCC coils in my Kanger subtank, I hardly use it because of that, so I'll be watching this thread
 

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When I was using my sub tanks if I let them sit for too long juice seemed to seep to the bottom through the coil and cause spit back, or juice would build up in the chimney and the tip and have the same result. Ended up just using qtips every now and then to clear the chimney of the condensation....but I never really had a super solution as I started dripping and moved on to the crazy tanks:)

Sorry I don't have any other solutions besides carrying around qtips:( you know cause we don't carry around enough already!!!
 

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Hmm. That is unfortunate. Have you tried different heads?
Yeah... I've tried the originals that came with it, the .5 verticals, and the SS's .. get it with all of them.

The Q-tip thing is what I've been doing.. but it starts again within like 10 vapes... I don't think it should be happening this much.:(
 

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I saw a post here somewhere that talked about solutions. Gonna see if I can find that one. I haven't had any trouble with mine.
 

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I don't have the subtank, but I ALWAYS get spit-back and hot pops from RDAs. I started using either knucklehead driptips or angled adapters...driptips.jpg

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Pami, I can't find the thread, but I remember it had to do with turning it up. Unless, of course you get a burnt taste from it. I'm thinking that @Zamazam and @Break-19 were in the thread. Sorry I couldn't find it.
 

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Pami, I can't find the thread, but I remember it had to do with turning it up. Unless, of course you get a burnt taste from it. I'm thinking that @Zamazam and @Break-19 were in the thread. Sorry I couldn't find it.
No worries... thanks for looking! :)
 

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From what I've experienced there's 3 different types of "crap there's juice in my mouth" and I'm not sure which is "spitback" if they all aren't at this point.

Crackling/popping happens with the fancy coils a lot but also with oversaturation. You'll get a nice hot drop of juice shooting at you sometimes and that's no fun. Curved drip tips help this as well as offset ones but that's more of a design on the mod thing.

Buildup/condensation is another, I've noticed a wide bore drip tip really helps with this and it's a big issue with my small bore ones. Which sucks because I like the small bore ones better in general but when this happens, arg.

Then there's the just drinking juice/gurgling where I'm not getting shot at with pops of hot liquid but just sucking up drops. Oversaturation of the wick being the big issue. Whether that is a vacuum loss in the system, old wick, too thin of juice, whatever. This is the one that vaping higher wattages has helped me with. If there's no problem with the system and it's just overly juicy cotton vaping higher wattages vaporizes that juice quicker. Alternatively thicker/higher VG juices so it slows down the wicking. If you were building on the RBA I'd say use less wick, but since they're premade... ehh? I've heard good things about the Atom gCoils (or something like that), maybe give those a try since you've tried everything else?
 

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From what I've experienced there's 3 different types of "crap there's juice in my mouth" and I'm not sure which is "spitback" if they all aren't at this point.

Crackling/popping happens with the fancy coils a lot but also with oversaturation. You'll get a nice hot drop of juice shooting at you sometimes and that's no fun. Curved drip tips help this as well as offset ones but that's more of a design on the mod thing.

Buildup/condensation is another, I've noticed a wide bore drip tip really helps with this and it's a big issue with my small bore ones. Which sucks because I like the small bore ones better in general but when this happens, arg.

Then there's the just drinking juice/gurgling where I'm not getting shot at with pops of hot liquid but just sucking up drops. Oversaturation of the wick being the big issue. Whether that is a vacuum loss in the system, old wick, too thin of juice, whatever. This is the one that vaping higher wattages has helped me with. If there's no problem with the system and it's just overly juicy cotton vaping higher wattages vaporizes that juice quicker. Alternatively thicker/higher VG juices so it slows down the wicking. If you were building on the RBA I'd say use less wick, but since they're premade... ehh? I've heard good things about the Atom gCoils (or something like that), maybe give those a try since you've tried everything else?
I'm talking about the subtank itself and I use stock coils.
 

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It probably is over saturation... but didn't know if anyone had figured out a remedy for it.
 

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I'm talking about the subtank itself and I use stock coils.
Yeah, I just mention it as a possible solution if anyone is building/rebuilding and notice that issue ever. I sucked at rebuilding Atlantis coils initially, learned a lot about how bad coils work and what I could do to make them "workable".
 

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1595506-1-thumb.jpg


https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10007196/1595506-65mm-acrylic-swirl-long-510-drip-tips-5-pack

:D
 

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LOL... yeah.. But do they fit? ;)

Unfortunately with drip tips you never know until you try them, kind-of a crap shoot.
The ones with the double o-rings seem to fit tighter IMO.
I suspect putting a little more distance from the coil couldn't hurt either.
 

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LOL... yeah.. But do they fit? ;)
I also had this problem until I started using Kanger SSOCC* in both of my SubTank Plus' and the TopTank-Mini I've yet to experience spit-back since.

*The flavor ain't as good as the original OCC's with the horizontal coil but zero spit-back is a big bonus.

EDIT: SYNTAX ERROR
 

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Yeah... I've tried the originals that came with it, the .5 verticals, and the SS's .. get it with all of them.

The Q-tip thing is what I've been doing.. but it starts again within like 10 vapes... I don't think it should be happening this much.:(

That really sucks! I have heard that sub tanks tend to do that sometimes. I recommend using the RTA section and just using the pancake method. That would definitely solve your problem. However, if you don't want to rebuild... Have you tried taking just a small amount of cotton and just barely placing it inside the wick holes? For some reason the folks across the pond were a little inconsistent with their coils. One will be perfect, then you get a batch that sucks.
 

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When running tc, if I start to get popping, I back off the temperature setting. This usually takes care of it. Possibly drop your wattage. Might help. Not sure.

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I miss mine lol zero spit backs zero leaking



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When I was using a subtank mini regularly I would get some spit back if I let the tank set for awhile.To help combat this I would turn up the wattage for a few puffs,then turn it down if I felt like it.Example: If I usually ran my wattage @ 25watts and my tank had been sitting long enough to cool off.Before I took my first puff i'd turn the wattage up to 35-40watts take a couple puffs when the spitting stopped turn it back down.
 

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Just slapped on my subtank nano that's been sitting for a day with a full tank. No spit back here. Using 60/40 blend and the .5 ssocc coil.

I do have a herakles plus that I love but is prone to SB if it sits open for too long. Usually just bump the wattage up and take a few lite hits before really vaping it.

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I ordered some of the SSOCC to try.
 

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Most people concentrait on the watts
when it's the volts that's the value to watch. 25 watts with .5 coil is pretty low volts. different juices vape differently from one to another, somewhere between 3.7-4.2 volts is where most will be good. Also like
Someone mentioned above the back pressure in the tank could give some
Problems. And there's the other factor that always sucks which is the
Coils your buy could all be crap. Companies that make these cheap little things can have bad manufacturing runs by the thousands so even if you get another few packs over a month or two from your local vape shop the new coils you get could be crap as well.
 

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The blister pack .5 vertical coils seem to spit a bit. Why I only use the RBA's. Well that and I am too cheap assed to buy the blister pak coils. Plus the RBA's just vape better to me.
 

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I had this problem too when I first got my cleito... Tried the qtip solution, got old real quick... So I upped my wattage 5 watts and now it rarely happens. Now I only have to use a qtip every now and then...
 

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i have heard back from a few more subtank users. some have found with careful realignment of the coil wire at the post to have them seat better for lack a better description one if not both wires that come into contact with the grommet at the base could have pushed the grommet up which in turn creates a bit of a slow flood that could be the spit back you are experiencing. at least with none RBA use. i always check the center pin and grommet to ensure a tight contact before placing it in the base.
 

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Still zero spit-back from the SSOCC's and the mileage can't be beat going on a month with the same coil...Oh yeah!
I agree with the SSOCC's. I put a Atom Vapes fancy gold clapton coil in my sub, and that thing spits like crazy. Going back to the SS.
 

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I got some VaperWerxUSA coils in my SubTank mini. Don't get any spit back with 100 vg.
 

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