Suggestions for FW Tres Leches

[lirruping]

FW Tres Leches was recommended to me when I was first buying concentrates as being a very true flavor. I have tried using it in small percentages with fruits, mostly, and found it requires significant steep time. But even after a long sit, my experiments with it still taste a little strange.. a little "off"--maybe even "rank". Maybe that's just what it's like, or maybe it's me mixing it wrong.

I have a whole 10ml bottle and have scoured the net for recipes including with little success. If anyone has any experience with, or has done a successful mix with this flavor, I'd love to know about it!

 

[NGAHaze]

lol, I have some too so I will be watching this thread also.

 

[lirruping]

aw man, you got my hopes up when I saw the post! I have really looked for info on this flavor to no avail.
Oh well. Now we wait

 

[NGAHaze]

I think it's supposed to be a creamy vanilla cake which I thought might be useful for mixing but honestly, I haven't tried using it so far. Your experiences with it make me question my original thoughts on it's usefulness ... nonetheless I'll have to give a try eventually!

 

[Huckleberried]

Here's what popped into my head last night, because I was buying the fixin's for an orange cake to take to a friend's later tonight..

FW Tres Leches
FA Orange
FA Caramel (for a drizzle)
Caps Sweet Cream (MAYBE, also for a drizzle)

% to be determined, I've not made this. In order, guessing at 5-6%, 0.5 -1%, 0.5%, 1%.

You could top it also, with just a tiny touch of any fruit you like, or sub for whichever fruit you prefer. Maybe a small touch of Vanilla Classic, Vienna or Catalan Cream to cream it up a tad, though it may not need it AT ALL. Maybe a spice? Ceylon, or Ginger.

Was just a thought bubble, but worked in my brain, lol.

 

[NGAHaze]

That sounds great Huck, Thanks so much for sharing ... nice thought bubble!

I've got everything to try this so I'll give it a go later this evening.

 

[Huckleberried]

If it's awful, it's the bubble.

 

[Huckleberried]

That sounds great Huck, Thanks so much for sharing ... nice thought bubble!

I've got everything to try this so I'll give it a go later this evening.

The Orange might need to be bumped up a tad, but that's a matter of preference, really.

 

[HeadInClouds]

I have a whole 10ml bottle and have scoured the net for recipes including with little success. If anyone has any experience with, or has done a successful mix with this flavor, I'd love to know about it!

A really, really old recipe of mine I called Sly Pirate - a lime pina colada cake.
6% FW Pina Colada
4% FW Tres Leches
2% TFA Key Lime
2% FA Jamaican Rum

I hardly noticed the diacetyl wheeze it gave me, because I'd recently quit smoking. lol

 

[NGAHaze]

I hardly noticed the diacetyl wheeze it gave me, because I'd recently quit smoking. lol

Thanks @HeadInClouds !

Did you mean CAP Pina Colada? I don't think I've seen one for FW. Also, is that where the diacetyl comes from ... Tres Leches isn't noted as having it but of course we are talking about FW so who knows if that's really the case or not.

 

[HeadInClouds]

Thanks @HeadInClouds !

Did you mean CAP Pina Colada? I don't think I've seen one for FW. Also, is that where the diacetyl comes from ... Tres Leches isn't noted as having it but of course we are talking about FW so who knows if that's really the case or not.

Nope - FW Pina Colada. They still make it: http://flavorwest.com/index.php/pi-a-colada.html It's not creamy like Capella flavors.

Tres Leches is loaded with diketones, in my opinion. I said the same about their Butterscotch flavors when they still claimed it had none, too. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[NGAHaze]

Thanks HIC ... I hadn't even smelled the bottle until just now and yep, it sure smells buttery and therefore likely to have the bad stuff.

 

[lirruping]

Here's what popped into my head last night, because I was buying the fixin's for an orange cake to take to a friend's later tonight..

FW Tres Leches
FA Orange
FA Caramel (for a drizzle)
Caps Sweet Cream (MAYBE, also for a drizzle)

% to be determined, I've not made this. In order, guessing at 5-6%, 0.5 -1%, 0.5%, 1%.

You could top it also, with just a tiny touch of any fruit you like, or sub for whichever fruit you prefer. Maybe a small touch of Vanilla Classic, Vienna or Catalan Cream to cream it up a tad, though it may not need it AT ALL. Maybe a spice? Ceylon, or Ginger.

Was just a thought bubble, but worked in my brain, lol.

This looks terrific - thank you! I was just thinking fondly of orange flavored cake recently. Carbohydrates and sugar in general have been populating my daydreams pretty regularly since I cut them out. It makes me so glad I vape.

I have everything except the CA Sweet Cream, but I think I would try your mix first without it, anyway, to try to get a better sense of what Tres Leches tastes like as a main ingredient. I was totally assuming it would be used as a little touch, the way creams are often used--that's how I have tried it so far, with fruits at 1 or 2%, and as I think I said, the results haven't been great. I will give your bubble a go. Ginger is a great idea here!

 

[lirruping]

A really, really old recipe of mine I called Sly Pirate - a lime pina colada cake.
6% FW Pina Colada
4% FW Tres Leches
2% TFA Key Lime
2% FA Jamaican Rum

I hardly noticed the diacetyl wheeze it gave me, because I'd recently quit smoking. lol

I get that diacetyl wheeze, too sometimes, I think, although it's only happened very lately, after more than a year of vaping. Maybe it's building up :/ Not a nice thought.

Thank you for this! I don't have Pina Colada or Key Lime, but your recipe is helpful because it confirms my new sense that T.L. is meant to be a main flavor. I've never had a Pina Colada vape, but I do have the FA Flavors to make a PC flavor... the only thing holding me back is my fear of FA Pineapple. (It's strong, burns a little..) I have some FW Pineapple and that is just plain nasty. Although, like their orange flavor, it smells great. Another one for the kitchen!

If it's awful, it's the bubble.

lol, I'm prepared to blame the bubble! Actually,I have a whole host of things ready to blame for when my mixes go wrong, so your bubble is probably safe

 

[lirruping]

OK, diacetyl fans, I've mixed this and it smells much better already than either my 1-2% tres leches w/ fruit experiments or the way the T.L. smells from the bottle. I'm getting only the barest hint of pukiness, which may go away with a little time and aeration. (Right?)

Here's what I did:

Huck's Orange Bubble Cake \/

5-6% FW Tres Leches --->[used 7%]
0.5 -1% FA Orange --->[used 1% Orange plus 1% FLV Orange Citrus]
0.5% FA Caramel --->[used 0.66%]
1% Caps Sweet Cream --->[skipped for now to try to get sense of T.L. flavor]

I'll let it sit a while and report back. I'm excited. I want to add a leetle bit of clove... but not yet! Must be patient.

 

[NGAHaze]

I'm about to mix Huck's Orange Bubble Cake up too but I'm going to go ahead and use the CAPS Sweet Cream because I have no patience!

I do have ADD however if that counts for anything? .

 

[Huckleberried]

OK, diacetyl fans, I've mixed this and it smells much better already than either my 1-2% tres leches w/ fruit experiments or the way the T.L. smells from the bottle. I'm getting only the barest hint of pukiness, which may go away with a little time and aeration. (Right?)

Here's what I did:

Huck's Orange Bubble Cake \/

5-6% FW Tres Leches --->[used 7%]
0.5 -1% FA Orange --->[used 1% Orange plus 1% FLV Orange Citrus]
0.5% FA Caramel --->[used 0.66%]
1% Caps Sweet Cream --->[skipped for now to try to get sense of T.L. flavor]

I'll let it sit a while and report back. I'm excited. I want to add a leetle bit of clove... but not yet! Must be patient.

Cool, you made this! I hope it turns out good. Sounded good while I was grocery shopping, lol.

 

[Huckleberried]

I'll be mixing soon, so I'll give it a go, too. So, we have one with sweet cream, one without.

Remember... if you don't like it, blame the bubble.

 

[lirruping]

Ok, it's officially yummy after 24 hours. I can still taste the two oranges I used somewhat separately and assume that will change with a little time. I also think the T.L. needs some time. The Flavorah Orange Citrus has a slightly more tang than FA Orange, but also a slight creaminess--another reason it's probably good I omitted the sweet cream on the first try. It's a nice, milky orange flavor, but I'm not sure I'm getting "cake" yet.

I no longer feel the urge to add clove or ginger, maybe because it's reminding me more of orange "shake" than "cake". That could be all the fault of the Flavorah Orange. It has a very familiar (but nice) artificial orange taste. FA Orange is mild, but more natural.
Other than waiting, any suggestions?

 

[lirruping]

I just mixed a few mls of this in hopes of replicating the fruit flavors in a blend I tried when I first started vaping called "Peaches & Berries". I've been tinkering with the percentages of raspberry, peach, mango and the smallest amount of watermelon. Right away it smells like I'm coming to expect Tres Leches to smell at first: not great. But I'll stick it in the box and come back to it. I think I may have the fruit proportions right for what I want. Watermelon may seem out of place here, but just a smidgeon does something nice with the other fruits. I'll let you know how it is after a while.

6.5 % Tres Leches
1% fa Raspberry
2% tfa Raspberry Sweet
1% tfa juicy peach
.66% fa white peach
0.5% fa Mango
0.25 tfa watermelon

 

[Huckleberried]

After reading through that, I totally get watermelon being there. Had one of those happy accidents with HIC's sweet Watermelon and HIC's Blue Razz. They played VERY well combined.

 

[lirruping]

I also mixed this yesterday or the day before:

Strawberry Orange Cake (adapted from Huck's Orange Bubble Cake)
2% FA Strawberry
6% tfa Strawberry Ripe
6% fw Tres leches
0.5% flv orange citrus
wipe% fa clove
wipe% fa honey
2% caps v custard

Have only tasted it...it's a little intense yet. We'l;ll give it som etime!

 

[Huckleberried]

Ya know what? That cake I was buying all the fixin's for? I almost topped it with strawberries. That sounds yummy!

 

[lirruping]

I'm back to sampling the original Huck's Orange Bubble Cake and although it may not be fair to judge it based on only a few days steep--because of the (oddly harsh, powerful and stenchy yet at times delicious) Tres Leches, I added a few drops bit of pre-mixed sweet cream (FW is what I have) into my little tank and it immediately improved the overall.

I'm guessing your original bubble was really pretty on the money, honey! @Huckleberried

 

[Huckleberried]

I'm back to sampling the original Huck's Orange Bubble Cake and although it may not be fair to judge it based on only a few days steep--because of the (oddly harsh, powerful and stenchy yet at times delicious) Tres Leches, I added a few drops bit of pre-mixed sweet cream (FW is what I have) into my little tank and it immediately improved the overall.

I'm guessing your original bubble was really pretty on the money, honey! @Huckleberried

I admit, I haven't mixed it. I haven't mixed anything at all in about 2 weeks, but one of HIC's and my usual all day stuff. I'll be sure to include this to get my own thoughts on it, since I tossed it out there. If it's not good, it's not gonna hurt my feelings, lol. It sounded good in my head, but most things that do, don't translate well to vapes, sadly enough.

I'd say whatever brand of sweet cream anyone has, or prefers, is what they should use. I've also considered using Caps Juicy Orange (or is itSweet orange?), just to see how different it might be. I also have German's Blood Orange. It's a very good flavor, just very strong when mixed at the rec %. I haven't played with that one at all, since the sample I made.

I need to get to mixin'. Maybe tomorrow. Thank you @lirruping for taking the time to play with that mix!

 

[lirruping]

I vaped it again this morning - your Orange Bubble Cake and it's still tasty. I think I ended up adding the sweet cream after all, but my only note by the sweet cream in the recipe says: "skipped this" and then after that, "definitely add this!". I really need a better system, lol.
First thing in the morning my palate is a little weird & unreliable, so I need to keep dosing myself (in small bursts or I'll run out!) to fully decide if it needs less orange, more orange--or is just right. I'm excited to hear what you and @NGAHaze (ahem, where are you?) think of this. I need to do a version without the FLV orange so we can compare notes.

Meanwhile, I've been vaping
Strawberry Orange Cake (adapted from Huck's Orange Bubble Cake):

2% FA Strawberry
6% tfa Strawberry Ripe
6% fw Tres leches
0.5% flv orange citrus
wipe% fa clove
wipe% fa honey
2% caps v custard

after a few days steep ing (5 days in the dark, i think) and it is making me VERY happy. It's what I'm going to call a junkfood vape--high concentrate volume and plenty of known baddies, but oh, MAN. I'm enough of a redneck diacetyl junky to admit that I love it. If I were a vendor--an unethical vendor-- I would steal this recipe, tweak the clove and honey a bit, and start lining my pockets.

 

[lirruping]

Thank you @lirruping for taking the time to play with that mix!

oh no, thank you for the catalytic bubble!

 

[lirruping]

I just mixed a few mls of this in hopes of replicating the fruit flavors in a blend I tried when I first started vaping called "Peaches & Berries". I've been tinkering with the percentages of raspberry, peach, mango and the smallest amount of watermelon. Right away it smells like I'm coming to expect Tres Leches to smell at first: not great. But I'll stick it in the box and come back to it. I think I may have the fruit proportions right for what I want. Watermelon may seem out of place here, but just a smidgeon does something nice with the other fruits. I'll let you know how it is after a while.

6.5 % Tres Leches
1% fa Raspberry
2% tfa Raspberry Sweet
1% tfa juicy peach
.66% fa white peach
0.5% fa Mango
0.25 tfa watermelon

The above recipe is not a go! At least not unless something over time happens to reckon the weirdly clashing watermelon and tres leches flavors. There is something persistently sour in tres leches that sometimes plays and sometimes doesn't , I guess, and the freshness of watermelon is not its friend--even in such a small speck as I have it here. I'll try these fruits again without any creamies or cake-types and reconsider how I can get it a little smoother. Multi fruit blends are pretty cool and complicated on their own, I'm discovering.

 

[NGAHaze]

I'm excited to hear what you and @NGAHaze (ahem, where are you?) think of this.

My bad, I got sidetracked with some other stuff and forgot to report back.

I mixed Huck's Orange Bubble Cake as recommended and it was quite good right off the bat but even more tasty the following day. I think it would have continued this trend if I hadn't vaped it all up so quickly! I'm going to mix up a larger batch the next time so I can let it steep a little longer but even so I don't foresee it remaining untouched any longer than a week or two at best.

I do think I will try one small adjustment on the next batch however and that will be to bump up the Orange flavor slightly. I used 1 % FA Orange in my initial mix so I'm thinking of adding 0.5% FA Mandarin to the next batch just to give it a little kick in the orange.

The cake flavor was definitely there from the start and only deepened with age. Good stuff in my book, Thanks to you both!

 

[Huckleberried]

I'm thinking of adding 0.5% FA Mandarin

Good call!

 

[lirruping]

My bad, I got sidetracked with some other stuff and forgot to report back.

I mixed Huck's Orange Bubble Cake as recommended and it was quite good right off the bat but even more tasty the following day. I think it would have continued this trend if I hadn't vaped it all up so quickly! I'm going to mix up a larger batch the next time so I can let it steep a little longer but even so I don't foresee it remaining untouched any longer than a week or two at best.

I do think I will try one small adjustment on the next batch however and that will be to bump up the Orange flavor slightly. I used 1 % FA Orange in my initial mix so I'm thinking of adding 0.5% FA Mandarin to the next batch just to give it a little kick in the orange.

The cake flavor was definitely there from the start and only deepened with age. Good stuff in my book, Thanks to you both!

Yum, Mandarin, yeah! Isn't bubble a good word for the effect? There's something very soft and round and...bubbly about it.. I had to use discipline not to vape up my little batch. I feel like the T.R. continues to change, though, so I'm holding out. I'm going to try another batch using only FA Orange (leaving out the flavorah orange, which has a creamsicley feel) and use your mandarin idea, too. And (for me) I think clove/honey/anise will go better with the more realistic fa flavors.

 

[Kwest]

I'm so glad that I found this thread. It validated what I've been trying to tell a couple of mixing friends of mine. I've been telling them that I mixed tres leches and orange and it tasted like yellow cake....they think I'm joking. So I'm not going crazy after all, lol!

I've actually used the tres leches and orange mix for a blueberry muffin mix that I have in the works. By the way, tres leches is also good mixed with tiramisu and bilberry.

 

[Huckleberried]

Which orange flavor do you use @Kwest? I did finally mix this one up, let it sit for about a week... forgot to report back about that. I didn't care for my mix much, LOL!

 

[Kwest]

I just got home and checked my notes. As it turns out, I mixed 5% FW Tangerine with 5% FW Tres Leches.

 

[Huckleberried]

OK, I don't have that one, yet. I have 4 different orange flavors, and not that one! UGH.

 

[Kwest]

It's never ending, lol.

 

[truvapor]

What about adding some lime cold pressed

 

[lirruping]

Which orange flavor do you use @Kwest? I did finally mix this one up, let it sit for about a week... forgot to report back about that. I didn't care for my mix much, LOL!

I came back to your Orange Bubble Cake and Strawberry Orange Cake today and vaped them one after the other. This time, the OBC seemed relatively plain--as if either the orange flavor had faded or the strawberry and other ingredients in the SOC had blossomed. There is a much bigger difference now between the two--beyond the obvious strawberry. I'm definitely favoring the one without caramel and with the added Strawberry (and stuff). Is it possible that caramel works against orange somehow, to mute it? I also think the tiny bit of clove & honey added overall interest/sense of complexity, even though the toothpick-tip-applied quantities are so small that I can't quite make them out. The problem with SOC is that it's right on the verge of being cloyingly sweet. If I didn't know how little I put into it, I might blame that on the honey, but I am pretty sure it will be helped by taking down the strawberry ripe a little bit. Thank you again, Huck, for getting this bubble bouncing!

If I mix it again, it will look like this:

Strawberry Orange Cake 2 (adapted from Huck's Orange Bubble Cake):

2% FA Strawberry
4% tfa Strawberry Ripe
6% fw Tres leches
0.5% flv orange citrus (or 1% FA Orange + 0.5% FA Mandarin) <- this is a guess, but I'm confident it will be good
toothpick-wipe% fa clove
toothpick-wipe% fa honey
2% caps v custard

 

[lirruping]

6.5 % Tres Leches
1% fa Raspberry
2% tfa Raspberry Sweet
1% tfa juicy peach
.66% fa white peach
0.5% fa Mango
0.25 tfa watermelon

The above recipe is not a go! At least not unless something over time happens to reckon the weirdly clashing watermelon and tres leches flavors. There is something persistently sour in tres leches that sometimes plays and sometimes doesn't , I guess, and the freshness of watermelon is not its friend--even in such a small speck as I have it here. I'll try these fruits again without any creamies or cake-types and reconsider how I can get it a little smoother. Multi fruit blends are pretty cool and complicated on their own, I'm discovering.

I've revisited this bottle and I want to amend my comments. It's not bad at all. With time, the watermelon has melded nicely into the whole and it's almost refreshing.

 

[Huckleberried]

I think what you said about the Caramel makes great sense. I didn't have luck with this when I finally did mix it. I completely forgot to post here, too. Sorry about that. I may revisit that soon, without.