Tanks & Mechs

[Vape7od]

So from what ive heard the general consesus seems to be that a tank (non-rta) should not be on a mech mod.. I agree with this but... Whats the thought/science on rdta's on mechs..such as moonshots,griffins,aromamizers so on and so forth.. You guys think they should be used with mechs, shouldnt be, or feel indifferent towards the subject?

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[Neunerball]

The main concern about tanks on a mech mod is with hybrid mech mods. Most of the tank's 510 pin don't protrude enough, in order to be used on a hybrid.

 

[anen]

As long as 510 pin (+) is longer than threaded part(-) you are good to go. All mods that I have are mech hybrid mods and Moonshot and Limitless are my favorite atomizers. No problems so far, all of these RDTAs have long 510, even clones are well built.

 

[JuicyLucy]

I've been vaping tanks on mechs for a few years - it is indeed the hybrid mechs you need to be wary of. But hybrids require a great deal of care and vigilance whatever you vape on it.

 

[JERUS]

RTAs are fine, normal tanks can be perfectly fine. Many of the newer tanks are even safe on hybrids (or at least ones I've seen). It's just kind of stupid to use a tank that has a few static coils on a mech where the only variable you have to fine tune your vape is the coil. You're essentially just agreeing that you'll take whatever it gives you... which just for example I used to vape off the TFV4 if I went with the quad coil I'd get about 91w of power, which is about 10-20w lower than what I usually ran it at, and it's .15Ω so not something you'd want to run on a tube. Then the Triple coil you're looking at about 68w which is again about 10-20w off of what I would vape that one at. So I'd be accepting a sub par vape and need a parallel box, so why not just grab a regulated?

 

[Vape7od]

RTAs are fine, normal tanks can be perfectly fine. Many of the newer tanks are even safe on hybrids (or at least ones I've seen). It's just kind of stupid to use a tank that has a few static coils on a mech where the only variable you have to fine tune your vape is the coil. You're essentially just agreeing that you'll take whatever it gives you... which just for example I used to vape off the TFV4 if I went with the quad coil I'd get about 91w of power, which is about 10-20w lower than what I usually ran it at, and it's .15Ω so not something you'd want to run on a tube. Then the Triple coil you're looking at about 68w which is again about 10-20w off of what I would vape that one at. So I'd be accepting a sub par vape and need a parallel box, so why not just grab a regulated?

And again jerus with an eloquently stated educational response.. You put it perfectly.. Ive been using a smpl mech and havent run anything but the tsunami on it.. I finally just last night got my moonshot wicked perfectly so when i get home after work im gonna throw it on the smpl. I was pretty sure it was safe.. But i hear alot of people stating the importance of safety with hybrid mechs.. Maybe im wrong but i dont see the big deal.. I just dont build too low and change the battery pretty often.. I keep trying to research battery safety but nothin has really gave me a solid explanation on why there is such a stigma about mechs..(maybe i should try and get some feedback via another post)

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[JERUS]

The issue with Hybrids is the connection. Between any two electrically connected components if there is a gap but it's still close enough to make an electrical transfer you get that arcing. Now, if that arc happens between your atty and a 510 pin, it's not really a big concern as both of those are decently solid pieces of metal, it's still not ideal but it's not going to cause any major damage. The top cap of a battery though is pretty weak metal, so a single arch could cause "boom" inducing damage.

So one instance of a bad connection can mean time new batteries or worse. Is it something overly concerning as long as you know what to look for and do regular maintenance, not at all. But, if you're lazy it's just one additional concern that you don't need to have. It's supposed to be less voltage drop, but I don't feel it's worthwhile personally.

 

[Neunerball]

And again jerus with an eloquently stated educational response.. You put it perfectly.. Ive been using a smpl mech and havent run anything but the tsunami on it.. I finally just last night got my moonshot wicked perfectly so when i get home after work im gonna throw it on the smpl. I was pretty sure it was safe.. But i hear alot of people stating the importance of safety with hybrid mechs.. Maybe im wrong but i dont see the big deal.. I just dont build too low and change the battery pretty often.. I keep trying to research battery safety but nothin has really gave me a solid explanation on why there is such a stigma about mechs..(maybe i should try and get some feedback via another post)

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[BoomStick]

Tanks have wicking that has to fight the vacuum and build decks that limit what you can do. That smaller box it puts you in usually requires adjustable power to get a good vape. Rda's are easier to build and wick to the fixed voltage of a mech. Personally, I hate direct lung tanks. Non of them can match a well setup and powered rda.

 

[Neunerball]

IMO, a good RTA, or RDTA can be as good as a RDA, with the advantage of not having to drip after a couple of drags.

 

[anen]

IMO, a good RTA, or RDTA can be as good as a RDA, with the advantage of not having to drip after a couple of drags.

You are very correct my friend. New RTA's and RDTAs are producing just as good as any RDA that I know of.

 

[JuicyLucy]

IMO, a good RTA, or RDTA can be as good as a RDA, with the advantage of not having to drip after a couple of drags.

Finally, but this is pretty recent

 

[Neunerball]

You are very correct my friend. New RTA's and RDTAs are producing just as good as any RDA that I know of.

Finally, but this is pretty recent

Yes, the occurrence of RTAs/RDTAs lately has been a great improvement. Too bad though, that the FDA is trying to hinder such progress and improvements in the vaping industry.

 

[Vape7od]

Yes, the occurrence of RTAs/RDTAs lately has been a great improvement. Too bad though, that the FDA is trying to hinder such progress and improvements in the vaping industry.

I dont have experience with too many diff rda n rta but ill say this even though my moonshot doesnt give as powerful dense ofa vape as my tsunami it does come close and something about the moonshot gives me a "creamier" vape if that makes sense.. Now i havent picked up anything other yhan the moonshot in a few days.. But given the choice of either of the 2 on a mech the tsunami matches up better and gives a better vape without a doubt.. But id have a real tough time if i had to only choose one on a regulated mod..

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[Neunerball]

I dont have experience with too many diff rda n rta but ill say this even though my moonshot doesnt give as powerful dense ofa vape as my tsunami it does come close and something about the moonshot gives me a "creamier" vape if that makes sense.. Now i havent picked up anything other yhan the moonshot in a few days.. But given the choice of either of the 2 on a mech the tsunami matches up better and gives a better vape without a doubt.. But id have a real tough time if i had to only choose one on a regulated mod..

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As @JERUS mentioned, on a mech mod, you "adjust" the vaping experience with your coil build.

 

[anen]

I dont have experience with too many diff rda n rta but ill say this even though my moonshot doesnt give as powerful dense ofa vape as my tsunami it does come close and something about the moonshot gives me a "creamier" vape if that makes sense.. Now i havent picked up anything other yhan the moonshot in a few days.. But given the choice of either of the 2 on a mech the tsunami matches up better and gives a better vape without a doubt.. But id have a real tough time if i had to only choose one on a regulated mod..

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Put same build in Moonies and hit it with same wattage as you do Tsunami and see what is going to happen. Make sure that you wicked it properly.

 

[Vape7od]

Put same build in Moonies and hit it with same wattage as you do Tsunami and see what is going to happen. Make sure that you wicked it properly.

Ill give it a shot.. The problem is that the MS has such a small build deck in comparison to the tsunami or my other rda the indestructible.. But now that i finally have the wicking figured out on the Mooner its time to start tweakin my builds..

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[nightshard]

I see no difference between using RTAs and RDAs on mechs.
The question should be if all the regulated users that got spoiled by things like constant wattage, safety features, TC and no resistance concerns, be willing to step down to mechs again.