Tfv4 dual Rba builds and wicking

[yasaboss]

What's up peeps, I was looking for any input on coil builds and wicking for the tfv4 decks I have both and enjoy the dual rba but can't seem to to get the wicking to keep up. I have 22g ni8 and 24/26 g kanthal. I've had 6wrap 22 to 9 wraps 24 can't seem to get over 55watts without dry/ burnt hits.

Update: I now wick it just barley to the channels at the cup at the very top of the deck right where the juice channels start works great

 

[Catalyst]

Having the exact same trouble here. Either dry hits or leaking. Using the supplied coils at the moment on the dual rba, ohms out at .25. It does seem that the wicking Just can't keep up with the heat. My next build in it will be twisted 26g, prob 7 or 8 wraps aiming for around .35... That way I'll try to have it run comfortably around 40 to 50 watts. Any other advice I'm listening as well...

 

[MrScaryZ]

What's up peeps, I was looking for any input on coil builds and wicking for the tfv4 decks I have both and enjoy the dual rba but can't seem to to get the wicking to keep up. I have 22g ni8 and 24/26 g kanthal. I've had 6wrap 22 to 9 wraps 24 can't seem to get over 55watts without dry/ burnt hits.

Do you have the dual coil build head TF-R2 RBA Dual ?

 

[Catalyst]

Yep....

 

[Myk]

With my single I had "dry coil-no liquid" (I use TC) at about half a tank. I pulled some wick down to the bottom of the channels, no problem since.
I did the same with my dual from the start. No problems and I just ran a tank dry.

After I get the cap on I make sure the wick is still in place and poke up through the channel to make sure it's not packed tight. Then go in through the top to make sure they're still positioned.

Somewhat different because I'm TC but it may help you.

 

[yasaboss]

Do you have the dual coil build head TF-R2 RBA Dual ?

Yeap got a 22g ni80 dual 7 wrap

 

[Catalyst]

So I put a different build in it... Dual coils twisted 26g at 3mm, 8 wraps. Ohms out at .39 was a bit tricky to fit inside the deck but it can be done. A bit slower ramp up, but that's what I was after was a little lower heat flux than the .25 build that came installed in it from the factory. I think that the wicking/wick holes simply couldn't keep up with a high heat flux.

 

[Catalyst]

Btw, clouds and amazing flavor for days...

 

[Mroutlaw]

Both the single and double coil are great if you get the wicking right. It becomes an art form. I've tried having just a little piece in the channel, and got dry hits. Tried not putting any in the channels and just resting on top and I got leaking when I fill.

I've found the best way it to cut the cotton at an angle and rest it across the entire top of the deck, not going into the channels at all. Then out the cap back on. Then I stick a syringe needle or end of tweezer down through top to make sure the juice channel is open. Then put a little cotton on each corner of the deck to make sure it's packed on each side by posts up to the height of the screw portion of the deck

doing this allows the juice to flow freely up to the wicks. It doesn't flood when filling because the extra cotton I put in the corner by posts stops anything from getting into the air channel

 

[JERUS]

Saw a video guide on it. Guy put some wick through then started to screw the cap on, that will leave an indentation on the cotton when you take the cap back off, cut there and then just prime it up, push the ends of the cotton to line up with the channels, screw it up and it's worked beautifully for me.

I'm actually testing a dozen different flavors right now and re-wicking in between each just to prevent crossing the flavors. Takes me a couple minutes to wick it up and get going on the next flavor, not having any issues.

Not using the crazy coils that some of you all are though, just a simple .3ohm 24g Kanthal wrap, but I've been able to push it to 120w and it's fine as long as I don't do a long drag, about 70-90 is my ideal as I like to take a big breath in and by then the coils have heated up to quite a bit.

That "trick" has been working for me though, I got a little leaking the other night when I left the tank full and didn't close the top (don't ask me why, but it was that way in the morning), but it was a few drops and it's the only issue I've had since I started doing it that way.

 

[VAPEROXX]

Saw a video guide on it. Guy put some wick through then started to screw the cap on, that will leave an indentation on the cotton when you take the cap back off, cut there and then just prime it up, push the ends of the cotton to line up with the channels, screw it up and it's worked beautifully for me.

I'm actually testing a dozen different flavors right now and re-wicking in between each just to prevent crossing the flavors. Takes me a couple minutes to wick it up and get going on the next flavor, not having any issues.

Not using the crazy coils that some of you all are though, just a simple .3ohm 24g Kanthal wrap, but I've been able to push it to 120w and it's fine as long as I don't do a long drag, about 70-90 is my ideal as I like to take a big breath in and by then the coils have heated up to quite a bit.

That "trick" has been working for me though, I got a little leaking the other night when I left the tank full and didn't close the top (don't ask me why, but it was that way in the morning), but it was a few drops and it's the only issue I've had since I started doing it that way.

I built dual parallels (24g kanthal 7 wraps 2.5mm) clocking in at .14 ohms (yes they fit...barely) and wicked it just like Jerus mentioned. No dry hits, no leaks.

 

[yasaboss]

Nice I'm really enjoying it aswell, pretty bad ass once you get the wicking down with the rba sections. It has been a fantastic tank overall that's for sure

 

[yasaboss]

Coils for tf r2?

 

[Catalyst]

...So u rebuilt the dual rba again 2 strands of twisted 26g 8 wraps at 3mm... This time instead of kanthal u used "oweeeee by Defiant Vapors"... I think that it may be re branded n80 at twice the price, but not sure. Anyway it now ohms out to .22. Ramp time went from slow to almost zero. Vaping very nicely at 75 watts. I'm sure it can go much higher but have not tried. I like to run all my tanks at right around 4v. Any higher it turns Brown/carmelizes my wick. I know this dosent bother most, but I am OCD about it as I can pick up on a subtle change in flavor when this happens. I like to keep my wicks white/whatever color my juice happens to be. Anyway I'm getting off topic..
...I feel that with this build, I have found the holy grail with this tank. It out clouds both the triple and quad manufactured coils. And the flavor is like brushing your teeth with your juice..... Absolutely amazing..
... But now I'm hearing that Smok is releasing a triple coil rebuildable.... Hmmmm

 

[rich204]

What's up peeps, I was looking for any input on coil builds and wicking for the tfv4 decks I have both and enjoy the dual rba but can't seem to to get the wicking to keep up. I have 22g ni8 and 24/26 g kanthal. I've had 6wrap 22 to 9 wraps 24 can't seem to get over 55watts without dry/ burnt hits.

Update: I now wick it just barley to the channels at the cup at the very top of the deck right where the juice channels start works great

With the duel coil rba you cannot wires bigger than 26g. When i got the rba i was hoping to build 24g but now its useless.

 

[JERUS]

With the duel coil rba you cannot wires bigger than 26g. When i got the rba i was hoping to build 24g but now its useless.

Naw, I can get twisted 26g in there, and 24g in there, but not twisted 24g without having to modify the deck. Twisted 26g is my preference in the dual RBA. Runs a little cooler than the 24g but other than that acts similar.

 

[raymo2u]

I use the same wicking method Grimmgreen does for his Goblin Mini....Almost a Swiss Roll and tuck the tips onto the deck with cap on and it doesnt leak and I can turn it up to almost 90w without a hint of any dry hit

 

[Cackalacky]

Saw a video guide on it. Guy put some wick through then started to screw the cap on, that will leave an indentation on the cotton when you take the cap back off, cut there and then just prime it up, push the ends of the cotton to line up with the channels, screw it up and it's worked beautifully for me.

This is basically my method as well. However I do cut at a slight angle (convex V) so that there is a little cotton that will go in the juice channels. Prime the wicks and place them so that when screwing down the chimney there is as little chance as possible of the chimney contacting the wick and moving it. Works like a champ. Also I run in temp control too, so the lack of dry hits is not unusual 22 gauge Titanium.

 

[JERUS]

Yeah after refining it a bit I'm cutting at an angle as well for the horizontal builds. I've been mainly doing vertical lately though. Haven't tried TC yet, just got a mod with it available not long ago.

 

[Cackalacky]

Yeah after refining it a bit I'm cutting at an angle as well for the horizontal builds. I've been mainly doing vertical lately though. Haven't tried TC yet, just got a mod with it available not long ago.

I've tried vertical builds and don't like the performance. Rip Trippers review of the Steam Crave Aromamizer RDTA is for vertical coils but I find horizontal to be friendlier with that tank as well. Glad it works for you but I fell out of love with vertical coils with the Atlantis. Apples and oranges? Yes, but like they say if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[JERUS]

For sure, everyone has their preference. My vertical builds are a bit unique in that for my higher wattage one I drilled out the single RBA and modified the hood to make it capable of 150w+ without missing a beat (though for flavor I've found 110-115w with my xcube doing the first 2 seconds at ~130w to be ideal). My alternative is a MTL setup with the standard RBA with the plug from the Mini kit restricting airflow for a more enjoyable MTL. I haven't done the dual RBA in a couple weeks, and I'm not doing vertical on that, it's just my preference after making this abomination of a coilhead with the modifications. Dual coil is great, I enjoy it very much, I just like my new creations better is all. I'll be revisiting the Dual Coil soon now that I know a bit more and have more wire to play with. I can't imagine doing the dual as vertical, it'd be a nightmare to wick, but I'll have some fun with it again soon. Right now I'm playing with my new Haze Drip Tank, that thing is pretty nuts.

 

[yasaboss]

What

With the duel coil rba you cannot wires bigger than 26g. When i got the rba i was hoping to build 24g but now its useless.

What? I've put 22g in there, lol

 

[raymo2u]

What

What? I've put 22g in there, lol

On the TF-R2 and TF-RCA RBa's its easy, on the TF-R1 Single Deck its a bit more tricky...
2 x 22K/46N80 Fused Clapton on TF-R1

2 x 22K/50N60 Fused Claptons on TF-R2

 

[yasaboss]

Boom
http://m.gearbest.com/accessories/pp_275042.html

 

[yasaboss]

Sadly your screws look like mine, swapped out the screws from the single deck

 

[raymo2u]

Sadly your screws look like mine, swapped out the screws from the single deck

I replaced all my set screws and small screws with 304 SS screw sets from ebay so I dont have those problems any longer, thank god becuase the set screws on the Crius and Aromamizer bent and folded like tin foil...
The TF-R3 head is something Ive bee contemplating for a while now (its also on FT and other sites) but the spacing for coils makes me look away, its mostly intended for thinner wire/thin claptons and less wraps. Have you seen the coral tank coilheads that can supposedly fit in the TFV4? 200w capability!

 

[yasaboss]

Nah I havnt seen those will check em out, wouldn't have a link for those screws would ya?

 

[yasaboss]

Ah yes, I actually had seen that tank on ST vapes live show yesterday not a bad looking tank either

 

[raymo2u]

Nah I havnt seen thos

e will check em out, wouldn't have a link for those screws would ya?

Heres the link I used, remember M2 are the screws for Crius/Aromamizer/Griffin and other RTAs and M3 screws are the size that are used in Twisted Messes other RDAs

 

[yasaboss]

You used these screws for the tfv4 deck? Did you drill out the blocks for post holes?

 

[raymo2u]

You used these screws for the tfv4 deck? Did you drill out the blocks for post holes?

They will fit the TFV4 RBAs also, I bought the Set Screws for my RTAs and Flat Top Screws for the RBAs, they are worth every penny.

 

[OneBadWolf]

I replaced all my set screws and small screws with 304 SS screw sets from ebay so I dont have those problems any longer, thank god becuase the set screws on the Crius and Aromamizer bent and folded like tin foil...
The TF-R3 head is something Ive bee contemplating for a while now (its also on FT and other sites) but the spacing for coils makes me look away, its mostly intended for thinner wire/thin claptons and less wraps. Have you seen the coral tank coilheads that can supposedly fit in the TFV4? 200w capability!

I have a 22 gauge 4mm spaced 304 SS build in my Single Clapton RBA, vapes great at 38-40 watts.

If you want to vape the TFV4 @ 200 watts, and have a single RBA (if you don't they are dirt cheap)

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10018414/3806903-replacement-tf-r1-rba-coil-head-for-tfv4

modify it like this.

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/new-tfv4-vertical-coil-rba.141246/

Rebuildable 200 watt TFV4 vertical RBA suitable for stunt vaping. lol

I've put 3mm 22 gauge coils in the dual RBA. Much swearing, but it can be done.

Prowling the forum trying to figure out where to post my TFV4 factory tricoil rebuild project.

 

[raymo2u]

I have a 22 gauge 4mm spaced 304 SS build in my Single Clapton RBA, vapes great at 38-40 watts.

If you want to vape the TFV4 @ 200 watts, and have a single RBA (if you don't they are dirt cheap)

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10018414/3806903-replacement-tf-r1-rba-coil-head-for-tfv4

modify it like this.

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/new-tfv4-vertical-coil-rba.141246/

Rebuildable 200 watt TFV4 vertical RBA suitable for stunt vaping. lol

I've put 3mm 22 gauge coils in the dual RBA. Much swearing, but it can be done.

Prowling the forum trying to figure out where to post my TFV4 factory tricoil rebuild project.

You should read down the thread you linked before you linked it...Ive modded the TF-R1 , the TF-RCA, and TF-R2 and do some of the craziest builds on it Iv seen...Ive moved on from the TFV4 to the Griffen and VCMT but the TFV4 with TF-R2 rba holds a place in my heart and will always be on the front line in my collection.

 

[OneBadWolf]

You should read down the thread you linked before you linked it...Ive modded the TF-R1 , the TF-RCA, and TF-R2 and do some of the craziest builds on it Iv seen...Ive moved on from the TFV4 to the Griffen and VCMT but the TFV4 with TF-R2 rba holds a place in my heart and will always be on the front line in my collection.

Appy polly loggies droogies! Home ways is rightways now. I was responding to

"Have you seen the coral tank coilheads that can supposedly fit in the TFV4? 200w capability!"

Thought I could save somebody some $.

Laterz.

 

[raymo2u]

Appy polly loggies droogies! Home ways is rightways now. I was responding to

"Have you seen the coral tank coilheads that can supposedly fit in the TFV4? 200w capability!"

Thought I could save somebody some $.

Laterz.

LOL I know its just coilhead capability is getting pretty insane and when I heard about them I had to tell someone else.

 

[kloudz]

Does anyone know what gauge wire and type of wire come pre installed on the tfr2 head.