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Twisted and Claptons are generally the best and most common coils for flavor chasing. They also happen to work well for cloudchasing too. If it's the single RBA I'd suggest a Clapton. If it's the dual RBA I'd suggest Twisted. But both work well as singles or duals either way. You could also try Spaced coils, they're super easy to build, install, and wick, and still provide a good amount of flavor as well 
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but the post holes is freaking small. Its frustating to put claptons in it. Furthermore i tried 26g twisted on single rba. No flavor. Have yet to try spaced twisted.Twisted and Claptons are generally the best and most common coils for flavor chasing. They also happen to work well for cloudchasing too. If it's the single RBA I'd suggest a Clapton. If it's the dual RBA I'd suggest Twisted. But both work well as singles or duals either way. You could also try Spaced coils, they're super easy to build, install, and wick, and still provide a good amount of flavor as well
You say post holes, so I'm assuming you have the single RBA. Yeah the holes are pretty difficult to work with, but it's worth the frustration in the end once it works. Give the Spaced Twisted a try, but also keep in mind that the TFV4 is power hungry no matter what coils you use, premade or otherwise. I, along with most people, have found that you need at least 70+ watts before this tank really starts to shine, so try slowly bumping up the wattage on your device and see if the flavor improves. Another thing that affects flavor is wicking. If the coil is wicked too tightly or too loosely then the flavor falls flat, so maybe try a few different wicking methods as well. If your device isn't capable of 60W+ then this tank will probably always fall short of your expectations, Smok should print that right on the box, this tank requires a high powered mod to run effectively.
I'm Using Snow Wolf mod so high wattages should not be a problem. But how are you guys able to even fit your clapton coils in the holes? I cant even get my 24g parallel coil to fit in it. Whats the gauges of your clapton inner and outer may i ask?
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You have to kind of cheat, hopefully I can explain well enough. For example, have the core 26ga and the Clapton 36ga. Unravel the ends of the leads so each leg has 2 separate wire strands. Feed the 24ga core through the post holes first, the squeeze the 36ga in beside it. Having 2 separate strands side by side has a smaller outer diameter than having the actual claptoned wire would. Another example for thicker guage wires, 24ga core and 26ga Clapton, feed the 24ga core through the post holes, then wrap the 26ga around the screws. It's more difficult and finnicky to get the screws to tighten down fully, but it is possible, granted I wouldn't recommend anyone doing this unless they are a veteran builder and fully understand the inherent risks of possible shorts
Hey mate. So finnally i managed to get the clapton wire in the post. Am using th UD kanthal/nichrome clapton wif 26 inner and 32 outer. My question is, how many wraps you think should i make and wether spaced or not for the best flavour? And also what wicking techniques and method you can share?
With Claptons and similar builds the Outer Wrap do not need to go into the post holes, they do almost nothing electrically as that outer wire is between 15.-30. Ohms. It acts like a serrated metal wick and a heatsink, Allowing you higher wattages without incinerating the juice and drawing in more faster then smooth wire. You can leave the Outer Wrap about 2-4mm away from the posts if needed and it will still work the exact same way.
Click this Link and go down to my TFV4 section...It should give you some ideas of what you can do or improvise when things dont fit well in the holes. Best of luck, I love the TFV4 with RBAs!
@DED420 , Nice Sig layout btw
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How did you manage to get the thick coils in the holes mate. I cant be bother to wrap it at the screws as my fingers kinda huge so the small screws is a major problem.Click this Link and go down to my TFV4 section...It should give you some ideas of what you can do or improvise when things dont fit well in the holes. Best of luck, I love the TFV4 with RBAs!
@DED420 , Nice Sig layout btw
You will never get anything thicker then 22g wire into those holes that are already drilled...What I did was take the screw out and lay the wire on the threads of it, then take pliers and pinch the wire around it, gives a perfect fit when putting it on the RBA. Another way is to wrap the wire around the screw in the same direction the screw goes when tightening, it will pull the wire in and hold it firm as you tighten it down... If you wont try that then you will need to cut open the holes on the deck with a Carbide/Diamond bit-be careful as the metal used for the RBA can heat temper with drilling/grinding and become extremely hard and almost impossible to cut into.
I would suggest buying the TF-R2 RDA if you want dual cils and ability to fit bigger wire without issues or the TF-RCA if you want a single coil deck with the ability to clam down big wires...the TF-R1 isnt a great deck for anything besides single wire builds or double barrel coils...
If single core clapton shoot for .5 Ohms for your Snow Wolf. Try 4 wraps on a 2mm bit and dont space the coil, and work out the hotspots.
I can fit 26ga/30ga in the single. If you can't you have a burr left from threading, ream the hole.
But I'm enjoying the RCA as a vertical coil. 3.5"-4" of 26ga Ti packed to the top with half a cotton ball.
I haven't tried it as a power head with vertical clapton, sounds like it may be interesting.
But I'm enjoying the RCA as a vertical coil. 3.5"-4" of 26ga Ti packed to the top with half a cotton ball.
I haven't tried it as a power head with vertical clapton, sounds like it may be interesting.
Glad to hear it's finally working out for you! Vape On bud!
Why thanks, I like your too
Drill out your Single RBA, twist up some 24g SS, Helix it with 32g Kanthal, or, just twist up 3 strands of 24g kanthal (some delay on heat up), drill some juice wells and make a vertical coil. This is what I do and flavor is solid. The premade coils are simply too airy. Best way to describe it is take a drink mix made for 8oz, and put it in 16oz of water, Sure you get the same amount of flavor, but it's not nearly as satisfying when it's in twice the amount of fluid,. Same with the TFv4 the quad coils are very airy and such you have the same amount of flavor spread between a lot more air, the flavor of course is diluted. The custom abomination coil I've made with the single RBA is the best I've gotten from the TFV4, it's nice and limited on airflow denser clouds than the quad coil but just as much if not more fluid. Tasty to say the least.
Anyways the problem with the TFV4 premades is air, the clapton coil isn't bad, but still too much dilution. The RBA's are where it's at. Dual coil is solid, lay the coil down low near the airflow to restrict it some, and it's solid. Modify the single RBA into a vertical and it can be amazing. But premade coils are a bit lacking IMO. Triple coil is better for flavor than the quad but less on the cloud production and chain vaping can lean to burnt hits.
The TFv4 is far from perfect but if you understand it, it's quite great.
Anyways the problem with the TFV4 premades is air, the clapton coil isn't bad, but still too much dilution. The RBA's are where it's at. Dual coil is solid, lay the coil down low near the airflow to restrict it some, and it's solid. Modify the single RBA into a vertical and it can be amazing. But premade coils are a bit lacking IMO. Triple coil is better for flavor than the quad but less on the cloud production and chain vaping can lean to burnt hits.
The TFv4 is far from perfect but if you understand it, it's quite great.