It's published. 499 pages:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2016-10685.pdf
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2016-10685.pdf
So no more house-brand, made-to-order juices..Vape Establishments Acting as Manufacturers--Several comments asked FDA to clarify whether e-cigarette retail stores and vape establishments are considered "tobacco product manufacturers" under the FD&C Act. In response, FDA has explained that establishments that mix or prepare e-liquids or create or modify aerosolizing apparatus for direct sale to consumers are tobacco product manufacturers under the definition set forth in the FD&C Act and, accordingly, are subject to the same legal requirements that apply to other tobacco product manufacturers.
and all manufactured in China or Mexico......This shit will kill a lot of small juice makers dude... We kinda know it's about to happen but God dang this fucking government...
I said it before, I see big PHARMA and big tobacco making they own e liquids and shit that is FDA approved and regulated..
This is a sad day
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So that's it?and all manufactured in China or Mexico......
additional clarity as to which products are subject to FDA’s tobacco product authority. With respect to these definitions, FDA notes that "component" and "part" are separate and distinct terms within chapter IX of the FD&C Act. However, for purposes of this final rule, FDA is using the terms "component" and "part" interchangeably and without emphasizing the distinction between the terms. FDA may clarify the distinctions between ‘component’ and ‘part’ in the future. Specifically, "Component or Part" means "any software or assembly of materials intended or reasonably expected: 1) to alter or affect the tobacco product’s performance, composition, constituents or characteristics; or 2) to be used with or for the human consumption of a tobacco product. The term excludes anything that is an accessory of a tobacco product." Components and parts of the newly deemed tobacco products, but not their related accessories, are included in the scope of this final rule. The following is a nonexhaustive list of examples of components and parts used with electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) (including ecigarettes): e-liquids; atomizers; batteries (with or without variable voltage); cartomizers (atomizer plus replaceable fluid-filled cartridge); digital display/lights to adjust settings; clearomisers, tank systems, flavors, vials that contain e-liquids, and programmable software. Similarly, the following is a nonexhaustive list of examples of components and parts used with waterpipe tobacco: flavor enhancers and the vials in which they are contained; hose cooling attachments; water filtration base additives (including those which are flavored); flavored waterpipe tobacco charcoals and the wrappers or boxes that contain the charcoals; and bowls, valves, hoses, and heads. FDA is defining "accessory" to mean "any product that is intended or reasonably expected to be used with or for the human consumption of a tobacco product; does not contain tobacco and is not made or derived from tobacco; and meets either of the following: (1)
Well, shit! Might As well sayadditional clarity as to which products are subject to FDA’s tobacco product authority. With respect to these definitions, FDA notes that "component" and "part" are separate and distinct terms within chapter IX of the FD&C Act. However, for purposes of this final rule, FDA is using the terms "component" and "part" interchangeably and without emphasizing the distinction between the terms. FDA may clarify the distinctions between ‘component’ and ‘part’ in the future. Specifically, "Component or Part" means "any software or assembly of materials intended or reasonably expected: 1) to alter or affect the tobacco product’s performance, composition, constituents or characteristics; or 2) to be used with or for the human consumption of a tobacco product. The term excludes anything that is an accessory of a tobacco product." Components and parts of the newly deemed tobacco products, but not their related accessories, are included in the scope of this final rule. The following is a nonexhaustive list of examples of components and parts used with electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) (including ecigarettes): e-liquids; atomizers; batteries (with or without variable voltage); cartomizers (atomizer plus replaceable fluid-filled cartridge); digital display/lights to adjust settings; clearomisers, tank systems, flavors, vials that contain e-liquids, and programmable software. Similarly, the following is a nonexhaustive list of examples of components and parts used with waterpipe tobacco: flavor enhancers and the vials in which they are contained; hose cooling attachments; water filtration base additives (including those which are flavored); flavored waterpipe tobacco charcoals and the wrappers or boxes that contain the charcoals; and bowls, valves, hoses, and heads. FDA is defining "accessory" to mean "any product that is intended or reasonably expected to be used with or for the human consumption of a tobacco product; does not contain tobacco and is not made or derived from tobacco; and meets either of the following: (1)
I'm thinking ONLY anything prior to the effective date, but still pouring over the pagesWell, shit! Might As well say
ECIGS!
Most I know that diy have plenty of stuff to keep it going for a long time though.DIY is not safe either,, any
COMPONENTS....
Anything that is associated with delivering tobacco for human consumption is included.. That's means ,vg/pg/nicotine
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Might have to take ya up on that just sold all my diy stuff, perfect timingJust let me know Always! Been doing it now for 3 years.
Send me?Most I know that diy have plenty of stuff to keep it going for a long time though.
I just sold everything I had for it because I have shitty timing.Send me?
So who is diy-ing and will be my black market dealer?
hell they're making candy outta the shit in Colorado and little kids are getting into it thinking it's candy....no harm no foul in the goverments eyes.But it's ok to legalize xxxxxx This government is so fucked up !
the only thing they can regulate is nic base and gear,So I guess I need to research how long vg and pg are really good for with extended storage. I have nic but if I can't get vg, pg or flavors what's the point?
So I guess I need to research how long vg and pg are really good for with extended storage. I have nic but if I can't get vg, pg or flavors what's the point?
the only thing they can regulate is nic base and gear,
I guess those that thought mechs and coil building were stupid may rethink that.the only thing they can regulate is nic base and gear,
no shit...we saw this shit coming down years ago and planned accordingly. the pricks.I guess those that thought mechs and coil building were stupid may rethink that.
additional clarity as to which products are subject to FDA’s tobacco product authority. With respect to these definitions, FDA notes that "component" and "part" are separate and distinct terms within chapter IX of the FD&C Act. However, for purposes of this final rule, FDA is using the terms "component" and "part" interchangeably and without emphasizing the distinction between the terms. FDA may clarify the distinctions between ‘component’ and ‘part’ in the future. Specifically, "Component or Part" means "any software or assembly of materials intended or reasonably expected: 1) to alter or affect the tobacco product’s performance, composition, constituents or characteristics; or 2) to be used with or for the human consumption of a tobacco product. The term excludes anything that is an accessory of a tobacco product." Components and parts of the newly deemed tobacco products, but not their related accessories, are included in the scope of this final rule. The following is a nonexhaustive list of examples of components and parts used with electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) (including ecigarettes): e-liquids; atomizers; batteries (with or without variable voltage); cartomizers (atomizer plus replaceable fluid-filled cartridge); digital display/lights to adjust settings; clearomisers, tank systems, flavors, vials that contain e-liquids, and programmable software. Similarly, the following is a nonexhaustive list of examples of components and parts used with waterpipe tobacco: flavor enhancers and the vials in which they are contained; hose cooling attachments; water filtration base additives (including those which are flavored); flavored waterpipe tobacco charcoals and the wrappers or boxes that contain the charcoals; and bowls, valves, hoses, and heads. FDA is defining "accessory" to mean "any product that is intended or reasonably expected to be used with or for the human consumption of a tobacco product; does not contain tobacco and is not made or derived from tobacco; and meets either of the following: (1)
indeed, but I am still thinking , things like that can still be had ordering from China, just a guess at this pointyeah if you vape those chinomizers you may wanna stockpile those coilheads,
Absolutely. A multi billion dollar business is not just going to pack it up. I knew back in 2010. That agreeing to the tobacco product ruling would come back and bite us on the ass.We will find ways around all of this. Our creativity knows no bounds.
sure it does...you are a knuckeldragging prole that needs the benevolent hand of the goverment on the back of your unwashed neck to protect you from yourself...and so the goverment will now be able to force companies to submitt their gear to goverrment inspection and meet goverment requirements so you don't blow up some innocnet baby with your pipe bombs..now the only people that will be able to do that are corporations who have a staff of lawyers,a huge stash of cash, and a checkbook in which to write out campagin contributions and a factory in mexico or china.....do you have any of that?Banning the equipment makes no fucking sense. It's no different today than it was back in 2007. It all boils down to resistance wire and a wick. Yes it has been improved, but the same ol thing.
and how long before the goverment regulates the internet.indeed, but I am still thinking , things like that can still be had ordering from China, just a guess at this point