Things about mods that drive ya nuts!

[Adam Paseman]

Laid up with a broken foot so Im bored as hell....so...

Drives me nuts when tanks/rda's don't sit flush. I mean, do companies even test them out before putting it into production? Especially when the mod company has produced a 510 connection that don't have that problem, I mean if you have one that works.....just use that one?


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[robot zombie]

Box mods with screw-mounted doors. Unless the design is really elaborate, magnets take nothing away and make the mod not a pain in the ass to carry around in public. Why did anybody think screws were a good idea? What happens if a battery starts venting? Fortunately this isn't really a thing anymore, but it still took manufacturers way too long to catch on to the fact that magnetic doors aren't a premium feature.

I also hate how Chinese manufacturers can make the perfect device and bloat it with features that contradict the ones that make it great. It's either that, or they do something really innovative and yet manage to fuck-up the most simple, fundamental things. It's the little things. Things that make you think that maybe the people designing these devices have never used one or spoken with people who have... ...stuff that makes you wonder if they tested it at all. The little oversights in design or manufacturing process are what bug me more than anything. Stupid shit that's preventable, easy to fix by just thinking it through, and costs nothing. Can't think of any off of the top of my head, but I'm sure I'm not the only one...

And on that note, planned obsolescence of regulated devices and this "shiny, new/improved version" marketing strategy that so many manufacturers use. Can't tell you how many mods I've owned that I loved and had to part with because they were really deteriorating. I feel like I have already found the perfect mod for me, but I can't have it anymore because mine's past its prime and now all I can get is the shitty, harder to use new version that's barely the same mod. Why must they fuck up things that they previously fixed?

It's even worse with atties. I would pay a premium for something that I can be sure I won't have to replace for a long time. Periodically buying $80-$100 mods sucks. I'd rather have something robust cost $300+ and be the last mod I ever have to buy. Or better yet, build a rock-solid mod that's... ...modular and continue making money on the upgrades!

Why this still isn't a thing, I will never know. That's part of why I still prefer mech mods. My SMPL is the only mod that I can say has stuck with me for years and years that I will have for many more years.

True standardization of the 510 connection would be nice, too. A 510 should always be a 510. As in, they should all be the exact same size in all dimensions and have a narrow range of tolerances. All atties could then line up on all mods. Take it one step further with the stopper on hybrids and the length of the positive pin and no hybrids will ever short again.

 

[SMOKIE]

Laid up with a broken foot so Im bored as hell....so...

Drives me nuts when tanks/rda's don't sit flush. I mean, do companies even test them out before putting it into production? Especially when the mod company has produced a 510 connection that don't have that problem, I mean if you have one that works.....just use that one?


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You have to remember all companies make their connectors to fit their own devices, like Aspire tanks will fit perfect on their mods, but their tank may not fit perfect on say a eLeaf mod or vice a versa. There is no MFG standard for a 510 connector only the threading itself.

 

[Huckleberried]

Drives me nuts when tanks/rda's don't sit flush. I mean, do companies even test them out before putting it into production? Especially when the mod company has produced a 510 connection that don't have that problem, I mean if you have one that works.....just use that one?

Yeah, I relate, LOL. Hope you foot heals up soon!

 

[Synphul]

I'd have to say the cheap ass paint jobs on most mods. They chip and flake far too easy. Just one of those things, we've had painted things around for how many years now? Whether phones, bike frames etc paint isn't rocket science. I can appreciate they put a $5 circuit board and $0.25 worth of wiring inside but mods are small. For the cost of most a basic functional paint job (or anodizing for that matter) isn't too much to ask.

Pretty sad when the paint job on my pc case is more robust. New products come out regardless of their nature and all of the sudden manufacturing forgets how to do things that were pretty well perfected years ago. Just because a new type of window is developed for a house doesn't mean we forgot how to paint the siding.

Best of luck with the foot and hopefully recovery is speedy!

 

[inspects]

I'd have to agree...piss-poor paint is probably my biggest grip.....

 

[inspects]

You have to remember all companies make their connectors to fit their own devices, like Aspire tanks will fit perfect on their mods, but their tank may not fit perfect on say a eLeaf mod or vice a versa. There is no MFG standard for a 510 connector only the threading itself.

There should be....

 

[Condensation]

Laid up with a broken foot so Im bored as hell....so...

Drives me nuts when tanks/rda's don't sit flush. I mean, do companies even test them out before putting it into production? Especially when the mod company has produced a 510 connection that don't have that problem, I mean if you have one that works.....just use that one?


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@Adam Paseman I hope that foot heals up good and fast for you.

What drives me nuts about mods is the 900mAh 3S lipo in a DNA200.

 

[inspects]

@Adam Paseman I hope that foot heals up good and fast for you.

What drives me nuts about mods is the 900mAh 3S lipo in a DNA200.

Yep....that too...

 

[Condensation]

then the Lost Vape Therion DNA75 with dual 18650's. Perfect for me on wattage and it will have more battery life. Why couldn't they just make it easier to get that first battery in there like other dual 18650's?
Still want one


Also the another thing that drives me nuts is when they have a small single 18650 mod. Then the dual version comes out and it's like an inch taller. Example IPV D2 vs IPV5

 

[gingerbread]

The thing about mods that drive me nuts is. I always want another one.....and another one...and another one....and another one. I don't have the cash for another one...and another one...and another one....But l still buy another one....and another one...and another one...


Hope you get back on your feet soon

 

[Nevweezy]

Hope your foot heals soon. I broke my ankle in October and was on crutches for 3 months and it still ain't 100% 9 months later. It's close but not all the way healed.

My biggest problem is the 510 situation. I wish they all sat flush on all mods. Another thing is they come out with new versions left and right. Also they release one color of a mod and then have everyone buy it. Just to release other colors so everyone has to buy another one to get the color they originally wanted....

 

[AndriaD]

planned obsolescence of regulated devices and this "shiny, new/improved version" marketing strategy that so many manufacturers use. Can't tell you how many mods I've owned that I loved and had to part with because they were really deteriorating. I feel like I have already found the perfect mod for me, but I can't have it anymore because mine's past its prime and now all I can get is the shitty, harder to use new version that's barely the same mod. Why must they fuck up things that they previously fixed?

It's even worse with atties.

This. The original Achilles RDA had FIXED the problem of all RDAs being huff devices rather than vape devices -- marvelously tight draw, flavor so intense, you almost wondered if you had ejuice in your mouth, and TH so outstanding you HAD to turn down the watts and the nic level. Never, EVER leaks, holds 2.5ml. PERFECT atty.... then he goes and makes an Achilles 2. Which sucks. No more super-tight draw. No more hex-key adjustment of the airflow, now it has an AFC ring which SUCKS. That wouldn't be so bad if he still made the originals too, but he doesn't. And Yeahsmo, who cloned the original, no longer makes the clones either. So THEY ALL SUCK! Not all vapers wanna make weather! Some of us just want a really great RDA for flavor that has a really tight draw and deep well that never leaks!

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Another real pet peeve are mods that eat battery wrappers. I've recently discovered the Sigelei MiniBook... and I LOVE IT! But even with the nifty "open book" battery door... the damn batteries fit so tightly, with ZERO "give", than pushing the battery in is a matter of brute force, which puts a nick in the top edge of the wrapper at the positive pole -- I have 3 batteries now with those nicks. I've decided that the only way to deal with this is to dedicate a battery to each MiniBook, and charge them via USB, rather than the far-safer external charger.

Andria

 

[Jimi D]

Another real pet peeve are mods that eat battery wrappers. I've recently discovered the Sigelei MiniBook... and I LOVE IT! But even with the nifty "open book" battery door... the damn batteries fit so tightly, with ZERO "give", than pushing the battery in is a matter of brute force, which puts a nick in the top edge of the wrapper at the positive pole -- I have 3 batteries now with those nicks. I've decided that the only way to deal with this is to dedicate a battery to each MiniBook, and charge them via USB, rather than the far-safer external charger.

Andria

Yeah, my Sigelei 100w does the same thing. The trick is, insert the battery level. It should pop in pretty easily.

 

[AndriaD]

Yeah, my Sigelei 100w does the same thing. The trick is, insert the battery level. It should pop in pretty easily.

I really try, but I'm not a machine -- one side or the other always goes in first; if the positive goes in first, the neg won't go in *at all*. When the neg end goes in first, the pos end will go in, but only if you force it. It's maddening. I place the mod on a 3/4" thick piece of foam padding, so the battery doesn't bang down so hard that it's a hazard, but it still bangs hard enough to nick the battery wrap.

Andria

 

[nightshard]

I wish my multi battery regulated mods had the batteries set in parallel not serial.

 

[Catalyst]

That damned convex 510 on the lost vape Triade dna 200... Fits any 22 to 25 mm attys flush, but if you put a 30mm on it, you get this weird gap...

 

[robot zombie]

I wish my multi battery regulated mods had the batteries set in parallel not serial.

How come?

 

[AndriaD]

Yeah, my Sigelei 100w does the same thing. The trick is, insert the battery level. It should pop in pretty easily.

I wish you could explain to me HOW to get them in straight/level. Got some new 25R's yesterday, got 'em charged and rested; put one in my miniBook this morning... and now one of my BRAND NEW batteries has a nick in the wrapper at the top edge. And yeah there's metal showing thru the nick; I just turned the battery so the nick is facing the hinge, where hopefully it won't be in contact with any other metal. It doesn't appear that it will be, and the mod is working.

I just can't fathom any way of sliding the battery in perfectly straight so it doesn't require brute force to push the positive end into place.

Andria

 

[Catalyst]

How come?

Battery life I would guess?

 

[robot zombie]

Battery life I would guess?

Battery life doesn't change. That only applies to unregulated, where the atty draws a set current at a fixed voltage. Regulated mods pull the current needed to hit the set wattage at the batteries' voltage under load.

Since a parallel mod has half the voltage to work with, it needs double the current to hit a given wattage. So...

100w @ 4.2v = 26.46A (13.23A from either battery, individually)

100w @ 8.4v = 13.23A (from both batteries, together)

On paper, you'd think it wouldn't matter, but parallel is actually at a disadvantage here because the boost circuit used to up the voltage in parallel mods is inherently less power-efficient than the buck converters that series mods use. In order to get voltage up, you need extra current - and more power is lost as heat in the process of stepping-up voltage than stepping-down.

In essence, you sacrifice less energy cutting voltage down to current than you do turning current into voltage. Battery life is comparably worse in parallel when you try to power builds higher than ~.15 ohms to triple-digit wattages because that boost circuit is working harder.

This is why most mods run in series. What they lose in battery capacity is more than made-up for in power efficiency. The extra voltage cuts the current needed in half and the mod doesn't have to work as hard to deliver the same power.

 

[vape_dragon87]

i have a lotus box mod and i feel you with what your saying about certain things that drive you absolutely nuts
the thing i hate about this mod is 1 you have no idea how dead your batterys are cause theres no way to tell aside from the volt display that ranges from 8.25 or so (havent ever seen when it goes full dead cause its still new) but the thing that urks me beyound belife is the fact that this thing uses 2 18650 batterys to charge it WOULD IT KILL THEM TO PUT A USB CHARGING PORT ON THE THING? and the other thing is that despite the fact that its more durrible than a russian tank the thing has 1 major flaw in my opinion the fire button is like the size (in conparisson) of a small bb i mean couldnt they make a fire button that wasnt so tiny ? its not like they dont have the room ...id do it myself but i dont want to ruin a perfectly good mod

 

[AndriaD]

i have a lotus box mod and i feel you with what your saying about certain things that drive you absolutely nuts
the thing i hate about this mod is 1 you have no idea how dead your batterys are cause theres no way to tell aside from the volt display that ranges from 8.25 or so (havent ever seen when it goes full dead cause its still new) but the thing that urks me beyound belife is the fact that this thing uses 2 18650 batterys to charge it WOULD IT KILL THEM TO PUT A USB CHARGING PORT ON THE THING? and the other thing is that despite the fact that its more durrible than a russian tank the thing has 1 major flaw in my opinion the fire button is like the size (in conparisson) of a small bb i mean couldnt they make a fire button that wasnt so tiny ? its not like they dont have the room ...id do it myself but i dont want to ruin a perfectly good mod

I know what you mean about tiny fire buttons -- the kbox mini's button is even smaller than that one, and I absolutely hated it. Fortunately it died a quick death when I dropped my purse with the mod inside.

Andria

 

[MC5]

Buttons are my biggest complaint. Tiny ones that require lots of pressure, mech buttons that must be pressed in just a certain way to fire, buttons that hang up, buttons that click but the click doesn't correspond to firing and buttons that are placed in unnatural positions.

I guess I'm pretty picky about buttons.

And then there's the adjustment buttons that are exposed to the point that you have frequent unplanned changes to your settings.

 

[AndriaD]

Buttons are my biggest complaint. Tiny ones that require lots of pressure, mech buttons that must be pressed in just a certain way to fire, buttons that hang up, buttons that click but the click doesn't correspond to firing and buttons that are placed in unnatural positions.

I guess I'm pretty picky about buttons.

And then there's the adjustment buttons that are exposed to the point that you have frequent unplanned changes to your settings.

Likewise, about fire buttons. I have 2 mechs: the first was a Fallen Angel, because I thought the button on the side would suit me better than bottom-fired. It would... if it wasn't at the very bottom, necessitating a very awkward grip. So the 2nd one I got is a Galileo, and I like it better; the bottom-firing is a lot less awkward than side-bottom. Would have loved the opportunity to have a Roller or Poldiak, but they're much too costly for my budget.

But they both ended up in the drawer, awaiting the Vapocalypse and death of all my regulated mods, because I really prefer to adjust wattage on the fly, rather than having to take the mod apart to adjust a Kick.

As for being able to "lock" a mod so it doesn't fire or change settings unexpectedly, I think the original Coolfire 4 has the BEST mechanism for that: an on/off switch on the bottom. No need to stress the fire btn with the repeated-clicks necessary to turn it on/off that way, and no need to worry about the wattage changing while the mod is stashed in my purse -- just click it off on the bottom, and everything stays just as it was. Then easy click back on, when you're ready to use it again. I plan to get a CF4-18650 pretty soon, but I'm disappointed that they removed this feature.

Andria

 

[Kevin2112]

Display screens that look good indoors but are impossible to see outside on a sunny day. Highly polished finger print magnet mods.

 

[Synphul]

I wish my multi battery regulated mods had the batteries set in parallel not serial.

It may not give any advantages like robot zombie pointed out but the istick tc100w is a parallel regulated mod. Usually around $30 from places. I don't vape anything extreme on it, single coil builds and never come close to 100w. Tc works good, comfy fire button since you just give a light squeeze to the curved end panel. Optional to run as a single battery up to 75w. Haven't done the firmware upgrade to 120w yet on it since that's beyond my needs.

The fire lock switch is a mixed bag, some people have had them too loose, others too tight. Mine worked a couple times when I tried it out of the box but it's quite stiff (aka tries to rip your fingernail off). The paint sucks for sure, one of my gripes but it was a cheap mod. Plenty of more costly mods with crappy paint too. I added some cf wrap to the battery covers so no paint missing on the majority of it.

Wasn't sure what to expect especially with the rough rep isticks have gotten over the years but it feels pretty solid to me. Everything seems to work as advertised so far as I can tell and it's not like I broke the bank on a cheap mod. Thinking it out performed expectations given the price.

 

[Paratech]

The thing about mods that drive me nuts is. I always want another one.....and another one...and another one....and another one. I don't have the cash for another one...and another one...and another one....But l still buy another one....and another one...and another one...

I know exactly what you mean.
Just referencing the MODS from left to right on top of black shelf;
Pioneer4You IPV3 LI - Black
Hohm Tech HΩ Wrecker G2 - Cut Metal Silver
Hohm Tech HΩ Wrecker G2 - Burst Orange
Hohm Tech HΩ Wrecker G2 - Bronze Red
Vapmod Spartans - Black
Pioneer4You IPV5 - Blue
Laisimo L1 - Red
GooCig Ares Box - Pink
Eleaf iStick 100 - Black
Smok KOOPOR Primus - Stainless
Eleaf Istick TC100 - White
Eleaf Istick TC100 - Silver
Eleaf Istick TC100 - Black
Vaporesso Target - White
Joyetech Cuboid - Black
Smok H-Priv - Black/Red
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Gun Metal
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Black
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Orange
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Blue
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Black
Eleaf iStick TC200W - White
Wismec Reuleaux RX200 - Black
Wismec Reuleaux RX200 - Black/Red

Waiting for a YEP Hells Gate - Black to be returned (manufacture defect, it did NOT stop firing after releasing the button)
Still need to order a Laisimo L3 - Red (thought I already ordered but must have missed it)
Also waiting on a Pioneer4You IPV6X - Black (only item I have ever pre-ordered)

 

[gingerbread]

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I know exactly what you mean.
Just referencing the MODS from left to right on top of black shelf;
Pioneer4You IPV3 LI - Black
Hohm Tech HΩ Wrecker G2 - Cut Metal Silver
Hohm Tech HΩ Wrecker G2 - Burst Orange
Hohm Tech HΩ Wrecker G2 - Bronze Red
Vapmod Spartans - Black
Pioneer4You IPV5 - Blue
Laisimo L1 - Red
GooCig Ares Box - Pink
Eleaf iStick 100 - Black
Smok KOOPOR Primus - Stainless
Eleaf Istick TC100 - White
Eleaf Istick TC100 - Silver
Eleaf Istick TC100 - Black
Vaporesso Target - White
Joyetech Cuboid - Black
Smok H-Priv - Black/Red
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Gun Metal
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Black
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Orange
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Blue
Sigelei Fuchai 213 - Black
Eleaf iStick TC200W - White
Wismec Reuleaux RX200 - Black
Wismec Reuleaux RX200 - Black/Red

Waiting for a YEP Hells Gate - Black to be returned (manufacture defect, it did NOT stop firing after releasing the button)
Still need to order a Laisimo L3 - Red (thought I already ordered but must have missed it)
Also waiting on a Pioneer4You IPV6X - Black (only item I have ever pre-ordered)

Well your ready for every vaping legislation enforcement to come! Most impressive.

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[Rabbit Slayer]

Not having a VV mode
Putting the USB port on the bottom of the mod
Added a charger to external battery mods but then put a warning against using them in the manual(that most people usually don't read unless something goes wrong)
No firmware upgrade on a TC mod
Releasing a mod and tank in the "same color" that aren't even close to being the same color

 

[Bigbob2322]

Tank wobble.