'Tobeco Supertank Mini' - any way to make this rebuildable?

[iHoldMyCrown1]

I've recently realized how far tanks had come when I started messing with a rebuildable cartridge in a Crown tank, in fact I've switched entirely from dripping with my Doge which had been my go-to for over a year.

So, the other day I was able to get a tank+mod for incredibly cheap, I'd have bought the mod alone at the price so I got it and now I've got this tank which my (somewhat limited) googling has led me to believe *cannot* be built, but rather it needs the pre-made, disposable cartridges - that'd make the tank useless to me as I've no interest in buying pre-builts ever again (my old days on Aspire tanks, with 15w lol, left a bad taste of these pre-builts being great when fresh, and rapidly degrading - the urge would be to use a new coil every day or two, which gets expensive quick!)

I'd forgotten all about this forum so couldn't find&access my old acct, but you guys had helped me tons a while back when I had an orchid v4 (RTA) that just wouldn't.stop.leaking!! Hopefully there's some good news for me here, because if this thing needs pre-built cartridges only then I may as well toss it in the trash, it's worth too little to make it re-saleable to a friend (the mouth-piece snapped off, so if I keep it I'll have to hit up fasttech for a new top-piece, right now you're inhaling off the flat top of the unit! If I'm not keeping it for myself then it's trash or a giveaway lol)

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

It appears that there's rebuildable Super Tanks and Super Tank Mini's out there, but that they're RTA's, not the original units with rebuildable cartridges one could buy and use (fwiw, teh super tank and supertank mini both use the same cartridge)

 

[Jim_MDP]

I should have bought a TST back last summer ('15) but got sucked into the Crown hype instead.
Haven't touched my Crown at all this year.

Not having one I'm guessing here, but I believe the original ST takes some manner of Aspire heads as well.
You'll have to wait to hear which ones, and It'll still be an RBA head and not an RTA deck, but it'll work.

I presume the factory heads can be rebuilt as well... no idea of any gotchas there though.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

There are several RBA heads you can use. Anyvape V2 and the Melo RBA are quite good. However, I would opt for the RTA over the tank...

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[iHoldMyCrown1]

I should have bought a TST back last summer ('15) but got sucked into the Crown hype instead.
Haven't touched my Crown at all this year.

Not having one I'm guessing here, but I believe the original ST takes some manner of Aspire heads as well.
You'll have to wait to hear which ones, and It'll still be an RBA head and not an RTA deck, but it'll work.

I presume the factory heads can be rebuilt as well... no idea of any gotchas there though.

What's a tst (tobeco super tank?)? And you seem to've moved on past the crown- what're you vaping (tanks) that's better? I dripped for the past ~1.5yrs, I thought tanks weren't for me (after a terrible experience with an RTA, the 'Orchid v.4'), but when I tried the crown I knew right away it'd be my new daily atomizer - but I'm ignorant about tanks, I hardly chose this tank it was just offered to me for sale at some point so I'd got it, used it for a couple days until the disposable cartridge started becoming weaker, and then forgot about the thing - til I found out about rebuildable cartridges. So I'm real happy to be building in this cartridge for my crown but I'd definitely be open to other tanks - I don't know if RTA's, like with real, true decks and not cartridges, are at the point yet where leak-free is a simple/expected feature (as it has been for me with my Crown and someone I know who's doing something similar with a kanger subtank rebuildable cartridge)

I've heard of aspire heads (atlantis maybe?) but wanted to confirm what's going to fit before placing orders How hard is it, typically, to rebuild a factory head? I hear of this a lot, hell the person I know with the subtank has said they've rebuilt the disposable cartridges, but I look at one of the Uwell's disposables and it doesn't appear that the coil screws in or anything, I've no idea where & how people are able to get a coil to line up to 2 points that don't have terminal screws or anything!

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

There are several RBA heads you can use. Anyvape V2 and the Melo RBA are quite good. However, I would opt for the RTA over the tank...

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Awesome that's great, will go check those out right now!

Re the RTA...I was given the tank, so I've already got it and figured I'd make it usable (I won't use disposables again!!), otherwise the thing will go into a drawer never to be seen again! But yeah I've seen that they make it in RTA form as well, would you consider that a good example of current RTA's, or just merely better than using a rebuildable cartridge with the non-RTA version? I ask because I'm newly back to tanks from dripping, I was psyched to find a tank that didn't leak and could provide adequate vapor, but I found both tanks (crown with rebuildable, super tank with disposable) by chance not choice, so if there's some new stuff out there that's impressive I would love to be put in the know! (I seldom look at vape stuff online and am very ignorant of what's out there, haven't been to a store in ages - I make my own juice and build my own coils so I just go online when getting low on something!)

 

[shawn.hoefer]

Awesome that's great, will go check those out right now!

Re the RTA...I was given the tank, so I've already got it and figured I'd make it usable (I won't use disposables again!!), otherwise the thing will go into a drawer never to be seen again! But yeah I've seen that they make it in RTA form as well, would you consider that a good example of current RTA's, or just merely better than using a rebuildable cartridge with the non-RTA version? I ask because I'm newly back to tanks from dripping, I was psyched to find a tank that didn't leak and could provide adequate vapor, but I found both tanks (crown with rebuildable, super tank with disposable) by chance not choice, so if there's some new stuff out there that's impressive I would love to be put in the know! (I seldom look at vape stuff online and am very ignorant of what's out there, haven't been to a store in ages - I make my own juice and build my own coils so I just go online when getting low on something!)

There are better tanks on the market, but IMO ar this point there a lot of hair splitting... this one is more than adequate.

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[iHoldMyCrown1]

There are several RBA heads you can use. Anyvape V2 and the Melo RBA are quite good. However, I would opt for the RTA over the tank...

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btw have you heard of Aspire coils being used? I know someone with a titan or triton or whatever, could try that to fit but would rather find out from someone who's seen or knows which actually work!!

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

There are better tanks on the market, but IMO ar this point there a lot of hair splitting... this one is more than adequate.

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Thanks that's very good to know! Is either of the tanks significantly better than the other (crown v1 versus super tank mini)? I'm just curious, will be getting a rebuildable for the super tank no matter what because I very much want to have a backup tank!

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

There are several RBA heads you can use. Anyvape V2 and the Melo RBA are quite good. However, I would opt for the RTA over the tank...

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I'm looking at that melo cartridges, they don't have threading on the top - I know the super tank's cartridges do..

 

[shawn.hoefer]

I'm looking at that melo cartridges, they don't have threading on the top - I know the super tank's cartridges do..

If the tank requires top threading, you'll be stuck with the Anyvape RBA. I'm checking elsewhere to confirm exactly WHICH Super Tanks require top threading. IF top threading IS required, the Anyvape RBA V2 head is functional, but not ideal (there'll be no claptons or larger wires used). The Melo RBA is superior...

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[shawn.hoefer]

btw have you heard of Aspire coils being used? I know someone with a titan or triton or whatever, could try that to fit but would rather find out from someone who's seen or knows which actually work!!

The Triton RBA will work, but that is absolutely the worst RBA head I have ever had the misfortune of using...

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[RatRacer]

I'm looking at that melo cartridges, they don't have threading on the top - I know the super tank's cartridges do..

Glad you asked this, as I was looking for this exact info yesterday. I have 6 STM's, and 2- 25mm versions. Atlantis/Triton/Evo/Vaporesso cCells/Melo do fit. There is a thread with all the cross fits for Atlantis coils. I have a Crown 1, but it leaks too much to bother currently. I have RBA's for it, but have yet to start building to try.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

Apparently the top threading is needed... that, unfortunately, eliminates the Melo head... sorry...

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[Rangertrix]

Sweetvapes sells an RBA head made for atlantis style tanks that works well. It doesn't even compare to the RTA version of the tank though. The RBA for that tank is basically a coil with a removable cap so that you can install your own coil where the RTA versions have a velocity style deck.
Vaportek is selling the 25mm RTA version for $14, but only in black. May have stainless by now though.
I bought 2.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

Sweetvapes sells an RBA head made for atlantis style tanks that works well. It doesn't even compare to the RTA version of the tank though. The RBA for that tank is basically a coil with a removable cap so that you can install your own coil where the RTA versions have a velocity style deck.
Vaportek is selling the 25mm RTA version for $14, but only in black. May have stainless by now though.
I bought 2.

The 25 mm RTA version is quite good. Rocking a matchy-matchy chuff..

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[BreSha6869]

The Triton RBA will work, but that is absolutely the worst RBA head I have ever had the misfortune of using...

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Agreed. The Triton RBA is almost as bad as the Nautilus VVTF which is a complete piece of shit. Kanger and Crown RBAs are a dream to build on in comparison IME.

I have 3 Super Tank Minis and sometimes buy full size Triton coils when I see them on sale. I gave up on the Triton RBA but I do really like the Super Tanks and still use them from time to time. Its the only tank I will buy factory coils for. The Triton RBA IS a perfect fit... but very few people I know have the patience to build it.

 

[Jim_MDP]

The Triton RBA IS a perfect fit... but very few people I know have the patience to build it.

Well, it is relatively bizarre in its' design.
Tiny leg holes limit the wire size, tie downs top and bottom so it's a half wrap horizontal only, wicking (IIRC) was no mean feat as well... and it's the only piece of kit I have besides everything WoToFo that's rolled lefty (CCW).

I can joke that all my WoToFo gear is sinister because I like 'em... not so much with the Triton RBA.

 

[r055co]

Agreed. The Triton RBA is almost as bad as the Nautilus VVTF which is a complete piece of shit. Kanger and Crown RBAs are a dream to build on in comparison IME.

I have 3 Super Tank Minis and sometimes buy full size Triton coils when I see them on sale. I gave up on the Triton RBA but I do really like the Super Tanks and still use them from time to time. Its the only tank I will buy factory coils for. The Triton RBA IS a perfect fit... but very few people I know have the patience to build it.

I've still got the Nautilus RBA, yes major PiA to build and IMO not worth the trouble. The Triton RBA is a complete piece of shit, ended up giving away my Triton Tank and tossed the RBA deck, wouldn't pass that piece of shit on.

The RBA deck for the Crown I takes a while to get it down but once you do easy, peasy. I still use the Crown I fairly regularly and always with the RBA deck. Sweat spot is 2mm di coil, snip the cotton legs at a 45 degree angle and place the cotton dry, don't use juice until after you've placed the cotton. No leaks, no dry hits and with a SS fused Clapton one hell of a tasty Vape.

 

[Rangertrix]

The 25 mm RTA version is quite good. Rocking a matchy-matchy chuff..

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Very cool! I have the green/white and dark green/black versions of those caps (mine have slightly smaller opening).
They also have a PC tank in smoke and clear that comes with chuff cap that looks pretty good, but have only seen them for the 22mm version.
I almost bought a couple just for the caps (don't own the 22mm versions), then I found those.


How bad is your liquid build up behind AFC ring on your 25mm's, that eventually weeps?

 

[Rangertrix]

If the tank requires top threading, you'll be stuck with the Anyvape RBA. I'm checking elsewhere to confirm exactly WHICH Super Tanks require top threading. IF top threading IS required, the Anyvape RBA V2 head is functional, but not ideal (there'll be no claptons or larger wires used). The Melo RBA is superior...

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The Melo RBA is definitely easiest to build (think ProTank's), except that when I wrap a coil for it, I always have to remove a wrap because I forget to allow for the long legs, lol.

 

[Rangertrix]

The 25 mm RTA version is quite good. Rocking a matchy-matchy chuff..

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Horrible pic, but here you go. lol