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I'm not exactly new to vaping, been vaping for 3-4 years now. I never got into rebuilding and now I would really like to. My main question is what RTA to buy because there are an overwhelming amount of them to choose from and I have no idea which one to pick. I would like somewhere around 4 ml capacity and a somewhat easy to build atomizer. Next I'm not sure what kind of wire or cotton is best to use. I fully understand and researched ohm's law and am going to be getting an ohm meter as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

RatRacer

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Welcome to VU.
Being in a somewhat similar situation, the common denominator answer of many posed questions like this has been a Griffen.
 

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I started with the TFV4 and the single RBA for it. I have the dual now, too. I don't have anything else to compare it to as far as building, but they seem pretty easy. There is also one very similar made by ZPal now, I think. The TFV4 coils will work with it. The Griffin seems pretty popular and looks really easy to build on. I would start with 24 or 26 guage kanthal, maybe 28 guage...depends on where you like your resistance. Check out steam engine dot org and play around with it to help make your choice in wire guage. I can't help with cotton...only used it a couple times and then started using rayon.
 

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Welcome to the VU!
I would take a good look at the GeekVape Griffin RTA..features a dual coil velocity style deck that's very easy to build, adjustable juice control and adj airflow..comes with a wide bore delrin drip tip and is topfill..It has a 3.5 ml tank, and vapes awesome!

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I'm not exactly new to vaping, been vaping for 3-4 years now. I never got into rebuilding and now I would really like to. My main question is what RTA to buy because there are an overwhelming amount of them to choose from and I have no idea which one to pick. I would like somewhere around 4 ml capacity and a somewhat easy to build atomizer. Next I'm not sure what kind of wire or cotton is best to use. I fully understand and researched ohm's law and am going to be getting an ohm meter as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
how have you been able to vape for the last 3 years without rebuilding? what did you vape with.
 

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Moving this over to rebuildables...

It sounds like this isn't your first tank, so this may be useless advice, but if it is you might try something with an RBA deck as well as disposable coils, in case you get frustrated and just want to pop something in and vape. I'm useless, however, when it comes to true RTAs so I'll just step aside now...
 
I've been using a ego one for quite a while now. I have purchased a griffin thank you for the advice. How do the ohm's work with dual coil, do they double or half?
 

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how have you been able to vape for the last 3 years without rebuilding? what did you vape with.
Lol!
Probably the same as I have for 5. Found a groove that was satisfactory, and bought a bunch of supplies from Fasttech to last some years. Now my supplies have dwindled, and what's out now has progressed enough to jump back on the learning wagon to play catch up, and spend all the money I had saved on new shit.:(
 

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I've been using a ego one for quite a while now. I have purchased a griffin thank you for the advice. How do the ohm's work with dual coil, do they double or half?
If you hook up two identical coils, their resistance together is half of what a single coil would be on its own.
 

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Oh and what battery do you guys recommend with the griffin?
Battery? If you mean a mod I would use one with at least 100w available.. That said I run my Griffins on these two RX200 mods, at about 75-80w with a simple dual coil 24g build...
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Battery? If you mean a mod I would use one with at least 100w available.. That said I run my Griffins on these two RX200 mods, at about 75-80w with a simple dual coil 24g build...
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Lets say I get a RX200. Can I charge the batteries while in the device or do I need a separate charger. Also which batteries would you recommend.
 

smacksy

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Lets say I get a RX200. Can I charge the batteries while in the device or do I need a separate charger. Also which batteries would you recommend.
Yes, it has in-mod charging.. I use the red 35A IMREN batts..You know if you Google Rx200 specs you can get alot of questions answered...just sayin

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For batteries only use Sony VTC4, Samsung 25r, LG HE2, LG HE4, or if you can find them LG HB. There is no such thing as a 35A 18650 battery. Any that say they are 35 or 40 amps are re-wrapped LG or Samsung and are only 20A. Also consider getting an external charger.

For battery education head over here: http://vapingunderground.com/forums/battery-junkies.402/. The sticky threads are required reading especially those by Mooch. He has done extensive battery testing.

If you live in the US this is a reliable battery source with great prices: http://liionwholesale.com/. @Jon@LiionWholesale tests samples of all batches he receives for authenticity and is a regular poster here on VU.

Think quality battery for a quality and safe vape.
 

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Lets say I get a RX200. Can I charge the batteries while in the device or do I need a separate charger. Also which batteries would you recommend.

The short answer is yes, the rx200 will happily charge your batteries.
The long answer that the last two posts (one recommending Google, and the other lecturing the first on a technicality) didn't give you is yes, but a dedicated, external charger is recommended, even in many cases by the manufacturers of these devices that can charge internally.
The biggest problem, from my understanding, is uneven charging and discharging of the batteries over time. Followed by that, the worry that you might wear out the USB port that in many mods is now also used for firmware updates.
There are others, I'm sure, but that's what comes to mind.

That all said, I cheaped out a month ago when I got my kbox 120 and have been charging the batteries in it nightly via usb without issue. I occasionally rotate the batteries in their bays in case it charges/discharges unevenly. It's been fine. This is with a pair of LG hg2 cells bought together and only used together.

I'm pretty sure that the manufacturers recommendation of an external charger is, in general, a CYA move in case anything goes wrong when someone charges in the device. They can just say "we said you should use an external charger". We're dealing with lithium ion batteries, which can get nasty when things go wrong. They just don't want to be held responsible if it does. At the same time, established brands usually won't put out utterly nonfunctional product. It hurts the brand if batteries start boring up in their mods.

Finally, I should say that the risk-aversion part of my brain is compromised, as I ride, and grew up on, motorcycles. Sitting on top of a series of explosions that propels two wheels balancing down the road is my baseline of safety. Take everything I say (and anyone else for that matter) with a grain of salt. Don't cry to me if you do what I do, charge in your mod and something goes wrong.
If batteries get hot, though, abort, disconnect, stop.

EDIT/PS:

gopher byrd's info and links above on batteries are important if you are unfamiliar with lithium ion cells. Read and understand that before you take any of my advise.
 
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Thank you all for you advice. I bought an rx200 and am using 3 HG2's. I also bought a nitecore d4 charger. One more question that I wasn't able to find a solid answer to. So with 3 batteries does that mean I'll be at 60 amps and 9000 mah? I'm assuming so but unsure.
 

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Thank you all for you advice. I bought an rx200 and am using 3 HG2's. I also bought a nitecore d4 charger. One more question that I wasn't able to find a solid answer to. So with 3 batteries does that mean I'll be at 60 amps and 9000 mah? I'm assuming so but unsure.

No, because the batteries are in series, as such, you're limited pretty much to what 1 battery can deliver.
Only the voltage gets added together when used in series.
 

VinnySem

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I just got into rebuilding myself, and tank recommendations really depend on your style of vape, are you a mouth to lung, or direct to lung? I'm more a MTL, and I opted for a Kayfun v4 clone. around 4ml of juice capacity, killer flavor (I don't like to or want to chuck big clouds, I sneak a pull in my work office occasionally) and super easy to build on. I use a .8-.9 single coil, on Aspire CF sub ohm batteries. My whole setup works great FOR ME, as with anything else, your mileage may vary
 

yasaboss

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Thank you all for you advice. I bought an rx200 and am using 3 HG2's. I also bought a nitecore d4 charger. One more question that I wasn't able to find a solid answer to. So with 3 batteries does that mean I'll be at 60 amps and 9000 mah? I'm assuming so but unsure.
I believe that the out put on an rx200 maxes out at 45amp Or 9v limit(which ever comes first with your build) for the board, true 200watts. One thing not mentioned for building is a QUALITY ohm reader, it is important. Type in micro coil lite into Google and dL the first link comes up its a great app for building coils much simpler then others, gives you recommend wattage voltage, when it'll get hot, Ω reading and all that jazz. And it's still free on that one, costs you in a app store now. AND youtube builds are your friend or pop into a local vape shop and most times they will gladly help you learn to build safely
 

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My first fused clapton... I know its kinda loose and I should have done another wrap but what do you think?
Looks good to me. I tried making some clapton wire once. I couldn't get the clapton to stay tight around the core. I'm going to try to set up a swivel and try again.

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Luckily I'm an avid fisherman so I had many swivels around, make sure they are ball bearing. It took me many tries to get them even that tight. The hardest part for me was keeping the 32g from coming back over itself.
 

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