Unwritten Rule Of DIY?

[FL_David]

It has dawned on me that I have yet to make a single flavor mix for myself. Even when I made "single flavors" for friends I slide in some other helper flavors.
If I were to make a cherry flavor, could I use more then one cherry flavor to make it taste right or does the unwritten rule of DIY for single flavors state that I can only use one flavor period?

 

[Smoky Blue]

there are no "rules" to diy juice.. it's what you like to do to make it your own..

layering is another way of blending, popping, or staggering a flavor.. best to try all flavors out on their own..
then figure out the main flavor and go from there. Single flavors have their uses.. but to make it good. is all up to the one mixing..

 

[StuPot]

There are no rules. If it tastes nice to you then it's a win.

I often mix multiple apples, strawberries, peaches, creams, vanilla, etc to get the flavour I'm wanting.. Experiment, Have fun with it.

 

[Laughmore]

The first mix of most new flavors for me are standalone just so I get to know it quickly. After a few ml I mix in some other standalones left over in my atty for some rough ideas of compatibility etc.

 

[FL_David]

Why is everyone so serous this morning? Just a bit of humor to get our minds rolling or at least our eyes.

 

[wllmc]

could I use more then one cherry flavor to make it taste right or does the unwritten rule of DIY for single flavors state that I can only use one flavor period?

yes you could but you would break the written code of math where single means one. 1 equals 1 and 1 plus 1 equals 2. any time you add anything to 1 it is no longer single. hahahaha howdy Dave now diagonal flavors, thats a different monster.

 

[HeadInClouds]

now diagonal flavors, thats a different monster.

Not so difficult unless it's diagonal layers, really. Now that's a thing of beauty.

 

[FL_David]

diagonal flavors

diagonal layers

I like the sound of those words. I have dusted off my thinking cap (the one near the tinfoil one) and seeing if I can't let loose my hidden diagonal side.

I know we as DIY'ers only have 1 rule, to mix safely.

 

[wllmc]

I like the sound of those words. I have dusted off my thinking cap (the one near the tinfoil one) and seeing if I can't let loose my hidden diagonal side.

I know we as DIY'ers only have 1 rule, to mix safely.

#vapelyfe

 

[RocketPuppy]

#pie

 

[RocketPuppy]

It has dawned on me that I have yet to make a single flavor mix for myself. Even when I made "single flavors" for friends I slide in some other helper flavors.
If I were to make a cherry flavor, could I use more then one cherry flavor to make it taste right or does the unwritten rule of DIY for single flavors state that I can only use one flavor period?

There's no rule for single flavors, but might as well not call it a single flavor if you want to add additional ones.

Didn't mean to sound snarky. I think it was the emphasis on single flavor that got me confused.

 

[wllmc]

#pie

mmmm pie

 

[wllmc]

#pie

This is officially my 2nd favorite thread. My first is that other one where we talked about pie. Love me some pie.

 

[Laughmore]

It's probably unfair but if someone posts a bunch of strawberry recipes using only 1 flavor of strawberry, I just assume it's because they didn't have more strawberry options. Or it's passively suggesting the flavor as perfect and complete, which in turn sparks skepticism from me unless the author states that as their opinion. "I use this one because the others suck" or "0% of everything else is perfect" are fine enough disclaimers haha

Careful flavor stacking peaks my interest when browsing recipes. I tend to trust recipes that appear to have finely tuned layers with %'s that have been arrived at by some process of elimination. No time for "tried this last night, pretty good" anymore. Cabinet is stocked with deliciousness and variations. Pardon the armchair elitism, it's a curse.

 

[RocketPuppy]

I tend to trust recipes that appear to have finely tuned layers with %'s that have been arrived at by some process of elimination. No time for "tried this last night, pretty good" anymore.

Pardon the armchair elitism, it's a curse.

You're such an elitist!

I'm in agreement with this. I rather try one where someone has put thought and time into it. It's one of the reasons I rarely post my own. I end up playing with the combination of percentages so long that I never feel it's done.

I stay away from recipes that are ambiguous and difficult to discern. I might end up tweaking great recipes, but when stuff is posted without specifics, I don't even try. How good can it be if little thought is put into the details? I guess I'm an elitist too. Time to start a club. Lol

 

[RocketPuppy]

Oh geez. Sorry OP for veering to some other land.

 

[Laughmore]

Come to think of it, even a "I really worked at this" statement common on reddit posts is enough for me to at least copy/paste the recipe into my calc for later. An author putting their rep at stake says something.

Oh geez. Sorry OP for veering to some other land.

I think this tangent could be interpreted as some unwritten DIY rules, no? But yes, back on track, where were we.

 

[AmandaD]

I've seen some 'complex' recipes that I'm not entirely sure were ever even tested. While I often prefer complex recipes (which is why I started DIY in the first place) sometimes the simplest ones are the best. Not unlike cooking Too complex and the flavors can seem muddled. Too simple and the flavors are - blah. It's indeed an art!

 

[wllmc]

FA Jamaican Rum at 2.5% ... shake, vape, repeat

 

[Navymr]

Yea I haven't found a single flavor I like as a standalone. My buddy likes the horrible blueberry by flavor express and I still add a few other things and not tell him. I like bananas and I have about every manufacturers banana flavor and my adv is a combo of about 8. If I leave one out I can sure taste the difference

 

[Heabob]

Yea I haven't found a single flavor I like as a standalone. My buddy likes the horrible blueberry by flavor express and I still add a few other things and not tell him. I like bananas and I have about every manufacturers banana flavor and my adv is a combo of about 8. If I leave one out I can sure taste the difference

Try FW Butter Pecan @ 10%

Well, if you don't mind the "baddies", that is.

 

[FL_David]

FA Jamaican Rum at 2.5%

I have the TFA version and will not be replacing it should I ever use it up. I might try the FA version someday.

 

[NightOwl]

FA Jamaican Rum at 2.5% ... shake, vape, repeat

Try FW Butter Pecan @ 10%

Well, if you don't mind the "baddies", that is.

Please, keep those single flavor recipes coming. DIY fails like me and noobs could use the immediate rewards of mixing your own with a little success. I had no patience and unflavored always tasted better than my muddled attempts even after steeping, so I stuck with that.

 

[FL_David]

my muddled attempts

Awww, NightOwl. Don't give up DIY'ing as the rewards are worth the effort. I read allot before I made my first juice which was not a single flavor. I don't remember what it was, but it was pretty good. Not great, but not a dumper either.

 

[lordmage]

there is only one rule about juice club.
1. Don't talk about juice club

 

[FL_David]

Before I got into DIY, I liked cherry as a single flavor. For part one of my single flavor unwritten rule quest I need either a single flavor of cherry that I like, or a blend of cherries.
I whipped up:
Jungle Cherry 1%
INW Cherry 3%
TFA Black Cherry 4%
FW Swiss Cherry 3%
16/84 PG/VG, 5mg VT nic

The Jungle Cherry needs a few days to steep as it has a bit of a funky taste out the gate even at 1%. I will leave it out if the part one mix doesn't improve with time. I like TFA Black Cherry the most, but I still want more of a blended type of a cherry taste. The FW Swiss Cherry adds a bit of tart effect except it's not doing much at 3%. I have FW Wild Cherry in vape mail which I could replace the Jungle with should the mix not improve. Or add it in the mix too and have a very cherry mix, haha.
The easy way would be to use TFA Black Cherry at 8-10% and call it a day. Where is the fun in that? No, I want to spend many hours tweaking the cherry mix into a great cherry flavor which to take it to the next stage of this quest.

 

[Cramptholomew]

Another aspect is putting the flavors in rows. That way you taste each flavor at the same time, all at once. For example, you taste the strawberry in one row at the same time as the blueberry and vanilla custard, with the same structure on the exhale. So, put the strawberry, blueberry, and vanilla custard in one row on the first layer, and the supporting coconut, Vienna cream, and vanilla classic on their own row in the second layer.

 

[RocketPuppy]

Another aspect is putting the flavors in rows. That way you taste each flavor at the same time, all at once. For example, you taste the strawberry in one row at the same time as the blueberry and vanilla custard, with the same structure on the exhale. So, put the strawberry, blueberry, and vanilla custard in one row on the first layer, and the supporting coconut, Vienna cream, and vanilla classic on their own row in the second layer.

Rows are so rudimentary. Transcendental curves or even fractals make for much more delectable mix.

 

[Time]

I use circles. Just align flavors that go together in a circle. That way, you just have to turn your drip tip a little to get a new taste. As an example, a friend asked me to make a juice that tastes like pussy so I did, putting the flavors in circles. He took a toot and said "That tastes like ass!" I told him, "Turn it a little."

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Try FW Butter Pecan @ 10%

Well, if you don't mind the "baddies", that is.

I have to revisit this one... It was one of my first purchases don't remember it being very flavorful.

 

[Heabob]

Please, keep those single flavor recipes coming. DIY fails like me and noobs could use the immediate rewards of mixing your own with a little success. I had no patience and unflavored always tasted better than my muddled attempts even after steeping, so I stuck with that.

More good single flavors, but I haven't tried a lot of singles yet, mostly recipes.

FW Butter Rum 11%
FW Pie Crust 7%
FW Cinnamon Roll 7%
CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl 7%
TFA Cinnamon Danish 7%
FA Lemon Sicily 2-3%

Start with simple 2-3 flavors, Fruit + Vanilla + Cream, or Fruit + NY Cheesecake or (TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust).

 

[NightOwl]

More good single flavors, but I haven't tried a lot of singles yet, mostly recipes.

FW Butter Rum 11%
FW Pie Crust 7%
FW Cinnamon Roll 7%
CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl 7%
TFA Cinnamon Danish 7%
FA Lemon Sicily 2-3%

Start with simple 2-3 flavors, Fruit + Vanilla + Cream, or Fruit + NY Cheesecake or (TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust).

Thanks @Heabob,

I mostly vape unflavored and get frustrated with more than a few ingredients and measuring anything I am going to consume. These single recipes will be great for when I'm looking for a change because I can mix them with my base right in my REO 6ml bottle--shake and vape. Even if I screw up a bit, I can probably vape anything for 6ml.

Maybe if I enjoy a few I'll be inspired to venture into 2-3 flavors at the same time.

 

[dave/jayce]

Would this be flavors squared?

 

[dnezarmichael]

Sometimes the flavor is so good by itself , the only reason to add something is ego.

 

[FL_David]

he only reason to add something is ego

I don't agree. I have found through other mixers, that a hint of wintergreen added to root beer does enhance the root beer flavor. A touch of menthol can make fruit flavors pop.
Ego has nothing to do with it unless that is your battery of choice.

 

[dnezarmichael]

I don't agree. I have found through other mixers, that a hint of wintergreen added to root beer does enhance the root beer flavor. A touch of menthol can make fruit flavors pop.
Ego has nothing to do with it unless that is your battery of choice.

Wasnt talking about a ego battery, LMAO!

 

[Time]

My favorite vape is still stand alone TFA Raspberry(sweet).