Uwell Crown TempControl switching to Sub-Ohming

[Spudbanker]

Just curious if anyone else out there has had this issue. I quit smoking by using the Ni200 coils in the Uwell Crown tank. I went back to my atlantis v2 tank and 50W eLeaf mod and I realized I could vape at a much higher wattage than before, also that the juice was more delicious. I decided to try the atlantis tank on the Sigelei 150W and decided to up the wattage between 70-80 (Atlantis 0.3ohm coil). Taking a few short hits it tasted good. Went to take a longer hit like I do on my TC coil and got this nasty burning taste. Loaded a Uwell Crown tank with a .25 coil and primed it by increasing wattage from 30W to 100W at increments of 5 so the coil will soak properly. Once I was confident the coil was soaked enough I took a nice big hit and I got the same burning taste.

At this point I'm wondering if I'm vaping "too hard" when subohming? I know for a fact I take a much longer drag when on TC vs Subohming so is it possible that I'm vaping faster than the cotton can soak? If this is the case, is there a tank/coils that would help alleviate this issue?

tl:dr Burning taste when vaping above 50W with coils that should take 70W-90W and should be fine.

*Juice that was used is 100% VG and all the same flavor
*Sigelei was set to subohming and not TempControl at the time

 

[Neunerball]

How much power you can use, doesn't just depend on what coil you're using, but also on the liquid. Not every juice likes it hot.
In TC mode, the coils don't get as hot, as they do in power mode.

 

[CgS_Drone]

Hello and welcome to VU. I have only tried the Crown for a couple of days so far and still not to impressed with it so far over my Crius.

Don't take my word for it but I am hearing that the Indulgence Mutank and the mutation x tanks are almost impossible to out vape, HOWEVER there are issues with it and it seems everyone is waiting to see if Indulgence is going to fix it, the screws for the coils loosen and are very difficult to get to stay tight so you get fluctuation in ohm's on your coils. I am waiting to hear that they have fixed this in order to try it and find out myself.

 

[Spudbanker]

How much power you can use, doesn't just depend on what coil you're using, but also on the liquid. Not every juice likes it hot.
In TC mode, the coils don't get as hot, as they do in power mode.

I see your point and it makes sense. I guess I should add that I'm at 50J/475F on the TC coil with that same juice. Would you possibly know if and where I could get high VG juice that does do well with high wattage?

Hello and welcome to VU. I have only tried the Crown for a couple of days so far and still not to impressed with it so far over my Crius.

Don't take my word for it but I am hearing that the Indulgence Mutank and the mutation x tanks are almost impossible to out vape, HOWEVER there are issues with it and it seems everyone is waiting to see if Indulgence is going to fix it, the screws for the coils loosen and are very difficult to get to stay tight so you get fluctuation in ohm's on your coils. I am waiting to hear that they have fixed this in order to try it and find out myself.

Thanks for the info Neunerball & CgS_Drone. Much appreciated.

 

[Mattp169]

ok ok
look i know some people run .25 crown coils in the 100w range
but that is a bit high.just because you can run it 100w dont mean you should or it will taste great there.

sure i ran that coil past 100w and it was fine for me, but not on a super long draw, the coil just cant wick fast enough unless your using high pg juice

most find 60-70 w is good for the .25 crown coil

in fact after 70ish watts i found no improvement in flavor for me, so why use more battery and juice at a time then i need to use?

 

[Spudbanker]

ok ok
look i know some people run .25 crown coils in the 100w range
but that is a bit high.just because you can run it 100w dont mean you should or it will taste great there.

sure i ran that coil past 100w and it was fine for me, but not on a super long draw, the coil just cant wick fast enough unless your using high pg juice

most find 60-70 w is good for the .25 crown coil

in fact after 70ish watts i found no improvement in flavor for me, so why use more battery and juice at a time then i need to use?

The bolded and underlined words is exactly what I was looking for. Appreciate the insight Mattp169, thank you. I've never tried high pg juice lol is it more potent / harsh? or again would that totally depend on flavor?

 

[Neunerball]

I see your point and it makes sense. I guess I should add that I'm at 50J/475F on the TC coil with that same juice. Would you possibly know if and where I could get high VG juice that does do well with high wattage?



Thanks for the info Neunerball & CgS_Drone. Much appreciated.

I'm making my own liquid, so it has been a while, that I ordered liquids online. Most likely, you'll have to get some premium juice, and pay more for it. A while back, I used to order from this selection http://www.fuzionvapor.com/fuzion-prime. It is liquid designed for use in RDAs though. With a tank, the highest I have used so far was a 20PG/80VG, but it still doesn't mean, I can use 80-100W. It mainly depends on the flavors utilized in the liquid. I used to buy a Vanilla liquid, which could only stand 20W max. On the other hand, I mixed up a liquid with a flavor concentrate by Nude Nicotine, when I tried it the first time with a 0.3 Ohm build on a mech mod, I didn't like it at all. The second time, I had a 0.2 Ohm build and fired it up at 75W, and it tasted awesome.

 

[Neunerball]

The bolded and underlined words is exactly what I was looking for. Appreciate the insight Mattp169, thank you. I've never tried high pg juice lol is it more potent / harsh? or again would that totally depend on flavor?

High PG liquid will have a lot more throat hit.

 

[Spudbanker]

Awesome guys thanks again for the insight.

 

[CgS_Drone]

ok ok
look i know some people run .25 crown coils in the 100w range
but that is a bit high.just because you can run it 100w dont mean you should or it will taste great there.

sure i ran that coil past 100w and it was fine for me, but not on a super long draw, the coil just cant wick fast enough unless your using high pg juice

most find 60-70 w is good for the .25 crown coil

in fact after 70ish watts i found no improvement in flavor for me, so why use more battery and juice at a time then i need to use?

I should have posted the same as Matt. TBH I do not vape at high wattage, I haven't found a need to and notice that flavor goes away after a certain point with different Ejuices. My DIY has it's best flavor and vapor around 25-30 watts, some a friend of mine makes does best for me around 30-35 watts. This all on Kanthal coils made around .6-.7 ohms. I have very dense vapor as well.

Now if I am chain vaping I can outrun the ejuice and get a dry hit from time to time but I really have to push it. I will still be trying the Indulgence if/when they get it fixed. The Crown's RBA deck is just to small and a pain to work/wick on in my opinion especially after working on the larger easier to wick deck of the Cruis, The Cruis does have it's issues as well though.

 

[Powerman]

Are your coils even broke in? There is a known oil taste on some crown coils. I've spent plenty of time at 75w on 0.25 coils. No problems. I take long pulls and run max VG. My mod at the time only did 75w, but I didn't want more. Started to be a bit too hot there.

A burnt hit you don't have to guess at. You gag for about 5 minutes after a big pull of cotton smoke. If you are getting burnt hits, so be it. But they can easily handle more than 50w.

 

[Spudbanker]

Are your coils even broke in? There is a known oil taste on some crown coils. I've spent plenty of time at 75w on 0.25 coils. No problems. I take long pulls and run max VG. My mod at the time only did 75w, but I didn't want more. Started to be a bit too hot there.

A burnt hit you don't have to guess at. You gag for about 5 minutes after a big pull of cotton smoke. If you are getting burnt hits, so be it. But they can easily handle more than 50w.

I have read about the oil taste and yes it was a nice big pull of cotton smoke and it sucked. I'm in the process of soaking a new .25 and breaking that one in and going max 75W after increment the wattage slowly to break in the coil.

 

[Nancy_Bout]

If ur vaping on the high end it can burn out and u get dry taste
This is making me miss my .3 and .25 ohm coils from Atlantis 2 and crown lol
Time to order some


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[Neunerball]

You need to find the sweet spot, that goes best with your coil(s), juice, and your preferences. Start at a lower power/Watt setting, increase the power, until you find it. Ideally, you drag, as you do all the time. You like long drags, take them long. When you start getting just some slight taste of a dry hit, dial it down to the previous setting, which is the sweet spot.

 

[Spudbanker]

You need to find the sweet spot, that goes best with your coil(s), juice, and your preferences. Start at a lower power/Watt setting, increase the power, until you find it. Ideally, you drag, as you do all the time. You like long drags, take them long. When you start getting just some slight taste of a dry hit, dial it down to the previous setting, which is the sweet spot.

Yup I got to about 70W with the juice that I have and started getting dry hits. Found the sweet spot around 63W so that's where I'll be keeping it. Thanks again for all the help and explanations.