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Islandswamp

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Hi everyone.

I have a problem and I'm not sure what to do. Ever since I upgraded from the two small devices I had to larger ones with bigger tanks (I have two Big Baby Beasts and one Maganus Cloud Blaster) my vapes will set off the smoke detectors in my apartment.

I know that this isn't supposed to happen, but I know that is what is going on. The vape won't always set them off either, but sometimes it does. My wife (who I'm trying to get to quit smoking and start vaping) is always complaining about vaping and this is one more thing to gripe about.

Does anyone else run into this problem and have you found an adequate solution?
 

Street_hawk666

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I found this when the coils weren't clean and the coil build deck hasn't been rinsed before a build

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Jriley

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Hi everyone.

I have a problem and I'm not sure what to do. Ever since I upgraded from the two small devices I had to larger ones with bigger tanks (I have two Big Baby Beasts and one Maganus Cloud Blaster) my vapes will set off the smoke detectors in my apartment.

I know that this isn't supposed to happen, but I know that is what is going on. The vape won't always set them off either, but sometimes it does. My wife (who I'm trying to get to quit smoking and start vaping) is always complaining about vaping and this is one more thing to gripe about.

Does anyone else run into this problem and have you found an adequate solution?
Take batteries out of smoke detector

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HondaDavidson

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Vapor does not hang in the air as long as smoke does... so if smoking doesn't set off the alarm neither should vaping.

Have her chose a vape to try. If she wants too... if she likes it she will quit smoking if not she wont.
#1 cause of failing to quit smoking....is trying to quit.

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jasonandsarah

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I was going to start this exact thread! Lol right down to trying to get the wife to vape and her complaining about the smoke alarms. They're all connected at my house as well, so when I set one off they all go off. Tagging along

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AndriaD

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Vapor does not hang in the air as long as smoke does... so if smoking doesn't set off the alarm neither should vaping.

Have her chose a vape to try. If she wants too... if she likes it she will quit smoking if not she wont.
#1 cause of failing to quit smoking....is trying to quit.

Completely agree. The only way I've managed to ever quit, by vaping, I STILL had to kinda sneak up on it.... by vaping enough that smoking was very obviously quite inferior -- the nasty taste, the horrible stench on hands, person, and clothes/hair, and the godawful expense.... then when I discovered that I actually got better TH from vaping than from my ultra-light cigarettes, that shit was OVER.

If vaping is setting off smoke alarms, I would say, keep away from them while vaping. If that doesn't help, try using more PG and less of that thick VG shit -- if quitting smoking and staying quit is your object, rather than merely trying to be as obnoxious as possible with your clouds, then making huge clouds really isn't necessary. Those thick VG clouds not only set off smoke alarms, they also leave a sticky film on EVERYTHING, just like smoke!

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I didn’t realise vapour could set of a smoke alarm. Smoke is very thick and toxic whereas vapour is extremely light. I’m gonna have to try though now my interest has been peaked, lol.


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AndriaD

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I didn’t realise vapour could set of a smoke alarm. Smoke is very thick and toxic whereas vapour is extremely light. I’m gonna have to try though now my interest has been peaked, lol.


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Most folks these days, using high-VG and high wattage, exhale plumes of vapor that are FAR thicker than smoke, especially cigarette smoke. If you use 80%-85% PG, and keep the wattage below 20w, then the vapor is very similar in appearance to cigarette smoke.

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ceecee

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Hi everyone.

I have a problem and I'm not sure what to do. Ever since I upgraded from the two small devices I had to larger ones with bigger tanks (I have two Big Baby Beasts and one Maganus Cloud Blaster) my vapes will set off the smoke detectors in my apartment.

I know that this isn't supposed to happen, but I know that is what is going on. The vape won't always set them off either, but sometimes it does. My wife (who I'm trying to get to quit smoking and start vaping) is always complaining about vaping and this is one more thing to gripe about.

Does anyone else run into this problem and have you found an adequate solution?

Yeah, the same thing was happening with me. My main sitting chair literally has a smoke detector on the wall above it (I chose that location to install it, my bad!). My solution is to have a large fan circulating the vapor around and it seems to have solved my problem completely.
 

forza

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Cover it with a shower cap. I do that at hotels just in case though I've never set off an alarm before.

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richdude

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I would highly recommend that you do not cover or remove batteries from your smoke alarms, they are there for a reason. A good friend of mine is a firefighter so I have an idea of how many lives could potentially have been saved by people having them, and checking them!!!

Other than that though, I have no other words of wisdom on this subject lol
 

AndriaD

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I would highly recommend that you do not cover or remove batteries from your smoke alarms, they are there for a reason. A good friend of mine is a firefighter so I have an idea of how many lives could potentially have been saved by people having them, and checking them!!!

Other than that though, I have no other words of wisdom on this subject lol

The main problem with that is that one of the best ways to save yourself if there's a fire is to always sleep with your bedroom door closed. In which case, a) you probably wouldn't hear the smoke alarm anyway, and b) if the fire starts somewhere on the other side of one of those closed doors, then the detector won't go off -- until it's too late. This is not theoretical; we lived in one of those firetrap mobile homes at one point, and poorly grounded wires in the wall OF MY BEDROOM started arc'ing, and causing smoke -- that smoke woke me, thx to my asthma, so I hit my inhaler, then realized, it didn't smell like bonfire, it smelled like insulation -- and it was, and the cold doorknob informed me it was safe to open the door and check it, then call 911 and get the flock outta there. Thx to my asthma, my amazing reflexes, the fact that it was after 11am on a sunday morning, and that Barrow County/Winder GA has some of the most amazing 911 response time you can imagine, no one was harmed, nothing was lost -- except my peace of mind. And naturally (MOBILE HOME?) there was a smoke alarm. Which never went off, even when I opened the bedroom door.

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Vapin4Joy

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Most modern smoke detectors but not all, have a photo eye, perhaps yours does, I have a detector in my house that does go off from a vape cloud.
 

richdude

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Wow, probably one of the onky times you will be thankful to have asthma!!

I don't know this dudes fire alarm set up or what USA smoke alarms are like, I am in the UK and there are loud, obnoxious, high pitched little buggers (assuming it goes off of course!!) so I have no doubt it would wake me up, but at the same time, if my girlfriend was on her own after a shift (NHS nurse, 12 hours minimum!) she would not wake up so I totally see your point!!

However, I couldn't read people suggesting he bypasses his smoke alarm as if I saw a random Facebook news thing tomorrow title 'guy dies in house fire after his vape explodes and he had covered smoke alarms so he coukd use it...' (very far fetched and over exadurated I know) then I would be left with what if it was this dude and I said something that may have changed his mind....

I've always been told that in fires, the fumes and lack of oxygen could/would/can potential make you pass out long before the heat/flames could get you so, as a personal preference, I would like to know I have the best possible chances of an early warning. But that's my choice, I don't hold it against anyone else if they decide otherwise!!
 

richdude

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Vapin4joy, yes some in the UK go off with a vape cloud. A friend of my girlfriend managed to trigger smoke alarms in a hospital toilet trying to have a crafty vape! Lol
 

bobnat

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I didn’t realise vapour could set of a smoke alarm. Smoke is very thick and toxic whereas vapour is extremely light. I’m gonna have to try though now my interest has been peaked, lol.


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Damn, I tried to set mine off. I just gotta try harder. It'll be good practice for the kids to evacuate the house every now and then.
 

AndriaD

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Wow, probably one of the onky times you will be thankful to have asthma!!

I don't know this dudes fire alarm set up or what USA smoke alarms are like, I am in the UK and there are loud, obnoxious, high pitched little buggers (assuming it goes off of course!!) so I have no doubt it would wake me up, but at the same time, if my girlfriend was on her own after a shift (NHS nurse, 12 hours minimum!) she would not wake up so I totally see your point!!

However, I couldn't read people suggesting he bypasses his smoke alarm as if I saw a random Facebook news thing tomorrow title 'guy dies in house fire after his vape explodes and he had covered smoke alarms so he coukd use it...' (very far fetched and over exadurated I know) then I would be left with what if it was this dude and I said something that may have changed his mind....

I've always been told that in fires, the fumes and lack of oxygen could/would/can potential make you pass out long before the heat/flames could get you so, as a personal preference, I would like to know I have the best possible chances of an early warning. But that's my choice, I don't hold it against anyone else if they decide otherwise!!

That's true that usually it's smoke inhalation that kills people in fires, generally long before any fire gets to them; it doesn't take much smoke from burning synthetics for the air to become completely toxic and unbreatheable, and a human body will pass out pretty quickly from lack of oxygen -- which is the biggest reason for closed doors, "fire doors," to prevent air drafts from feeding the fire and causing it to travel while also wafting smoke -- and being able to feel the doorknob lets you know quickly if a door is safe to open, at least safe enough to be able to escape!

I had another instance of the unreliability of smoke alarms, which yes, are the most annoying bastards ever invented, IMO -- we lived in a 2-story townhouse apt; kitchen/living room down, 2 BRs and bath up. I had left a candle burning in our bedroom, and went downstairs for an hour or so. Next time I went to the front door (at the foot of the staircase) to go out and smoke, I smelled candle smoke, and this was AFTER the almost-fire in the mobile home, so I was still very paranoid about any smell of smoke, so I went up to investigate. I opened the bedroom door to find the room a bit smoky, and an actual fire burning on my husband's desk, so I ran over and grabbed a sweatshirt on the chair and smothered it out ASAP -- and THEN the fucking noisy alarm went off!!! AAARGHHH!!! So I really got no use for smoke alarms. After those 2 events, and now being a non-smoker, I have a better smoke detector in my NOSE than anything that can be mounted on the wall. ;)

Andria
 

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