I've been on and off vaping since 2013. I usually used single/dual/triple 18650 mods & RTAs and DIY juice (or ECBlend when they had an organic %100 VG natural line) but I'm just now trying a disposable for the first time. I know disposables get a bad rep for wasting batteries but I'll at least chuck it in the li-ion recycling bin at home depot and just wanted to try one because I read the flavor is unmatched and wanted the reference since I mix my own juice which hasn't gone so good compared to the ECBlend was much smoother. I always liked sweet fruit flavors like a sweet banana Runts candy type flavor so I bought a banana ice geek bar pulse at the corner store and god this thing is too sweet it's like comical, it's like drinking flavor concentrate mixed w a ton of sweetener, as soon as I opened the box before opening the inner sealed bag it smelled too sweet and artificial, but once I get past that though, the banana flavor itself is really good and I didn't want ice/menthol but that's all they had, and it's overall smooth but is this really 50mg?
In 2013 you were considered sort of crazy if you vaped 36mg was about as high as juice went. Then with sub ohm vaping etc it went down to idk something like %1 or even .5mg, now it's at 50?! Why? Salt doesn't matter just because it can be made less harsh even well-made steeped smooth non-salt juice @ 10mg isn't harsh and 10mg was considered like 20x stronger than necessary at one point if I'm not mistaken.
I thought I was getting mg per ml and % confused but the box says 50mg per ml. If I use an e juice calculator it's saying to mix a 30ml bottle of flavorless using 100mg nic concentrate to fill the 30ml bottle HALF WAY with 100mg concentrate! When I mixed DIY, flavorless was my go-to after so many failed mixed w Flavor west, Capella, Nature's Flavors organic natural etc, I was vaping around 10mg was even considered high (but not taking as many puffs was my approach) which was putting 3ml of 100mg concentrate in a 30ml bottle and fill the other 27ml w just VG - basically I would just eye-ball 1/10th of the 30ml (3ml) or 60ml (6ml) bottle and then fill the rest up with straight VG = around 10mg.
Am I missing something or is this really like taking a bottle of 100mg nic concentrate and just mixing it 50-50? This geek bar doesn't taste nearly as harsh as even when I have mixed w salt %10 but idk what I'm doing wrong with steeping or something I could never nail that smooth commercial flavor of ECBlend which I was happy vaping @ 6mg.
I like that this geekbar is compact light and I can just buy it at any store but after about 3 little sessions with it it's become nauseating and that's besides if it's 50mg. It looks like I'll try a small sleek pod system next which are said to mostly be much less sweet or over the top in flavor vs disposables, and then I'll probably transition back to my Vaporesso Gen 80S single 18650 mod (basically as small as an 18650 mod can be for in-pocket comfort, with a small, stout ~3ml rta and hopefully there's good info nowadays on how to DIY mix/steep smooth juice especially if I go for a very low flavor % or even flavorless.
It can be a hassle to keep up with all the new vaping gear and I haven't been into it for a while, but I just did some research and it seems it's the same story basically they keep pumping out new stuff but there hasn't been any game changers, what can they even do to vapes now to create a game changer idk. Basically pods are the thing now are basically just small low-mAh mods that aren't clunky in your pocket but can run out of battery or juice and is convenient to buy at most stores. But it's good to know that basically a good ol mod and rebuildable rta (esp w juice flow control for when it's 100 degrees in a car vs 5 degrees in winter let alone if a coil is slightly under or over wicked w cotton to prevent leaks/burnt hits) is often suggested for those looking for the most practical, cost effective, user options, and also buying online is often suggested as the corner store stuff is like 2x the price and limited options. Basically I'm not missing out on anything to try and just buy vape stuff at the store even though I thought that was the new way, sorry shop owners etc or those that buy a lot from stores but the tree I fell from was always online stuff had the best options and seems to still hold true even with the huge displays of vape stuff in stores now compared to ~8 years ago. The pods themselves, even empty to fill with juice also costs more than I expected @ ~$5 a piece which isn't much but compared to an rta if you don't mind spending a few mins every week or so rebuilding it cost like a penny.
Basically I'm leaning towards something even smaller than an 18650 but with replaceable battery if that even exists, Is there not a single AA lithium ion replaceable battery type mod possible? Or even something with a common lithium ion pack that you can easily and safely replace without soldering or anything? That plus a small stout ~2.5ml rebuildable tank so it's light and not bulky in the pocket is a main factor. I don't think there's really pods with rebuildable coil options although some sort of have that option but once the battery inside dies you might have to find all new gear if they start to become discontinued if you didn't stock up on them expecting something slightly better to come out despite not game-changing.
anyway just blabbering a bit off topic, but 50MG?!
In 2013 you were considered sort of crazy if you vaped 36mg was about as high as juice went. Then with sub ohm vaping etc it went down to idk something like %1 or even .5mg, now it's at 50?! Why? Salt doesn't matter just because it can be made less harsh even well-made steeped smooth non-salt juice @ 10mg isn't harsh and 10mg was considered like 20x stronger than necessary at one point if I'm not mistaken.
I thought I was getting mg per ml and % confused but the box says 50mg per ml. If I use an e juice calculator it's saying to mix a 30ml bottle of flavorless using 100mg nic concentrate to fill the 30ml bottle HALF WAY with 100mg concentrate! When I mixed DIY, flavorless was my go-to after so many failed mixed w Flavor west, Capella, Nature's Flavors organic natural etc, I was vaping around 10mg was even considered high (but not taking as many puffs was my approach) which was putting 3ml of 100mg concentrate in a 30ml bottle and fill the other 27ml w just VG - basically I would just eye-ball 1/10th of the 30ml (3ml) or 60ml (6ml) bottle and then fill the rest up with straight VG = around 10mg.
Am I missing something or is this really like taking a bottle of 100mg nic concentrate and just mixing it 50-50? This geek bar doesn't taste nearly as harsh as even when I have mixed w salt %10 but idk what I'm doing wrong with steeping or something I could never nail that smooth commercial flavor of ECBlend which I was happy vaping @ 6mg.
I like that this geekbar is compact light and I can just buy it at any store but after about 3 little sessions with it it's become nauseating and that's besides if it's 50mg. It looks like I'll try a small sleek pod system next which are said to mostly be much less sweet or over the top in flavor vs disposables, and then I'll probably transition back to my Vaporesso Gen 80S single 18650 mod (basically as small as an 18650 mod can be for in-pocket comfort, with a small, stout ~3ml rta and hopefully there's good info nowadays on how to DIY mix/steep smooth juice especially if I go for a very low flavor % or even flavorless.
It can be a hassle to keep up with all the new vaping gear and I haven't been into it for a while, but I just did some research and it seems it's the same story basically they keep pumping out new stuff but there hasn't been any game changers, what can they even do to vapes now to create a game changer idk. Basically pods are the thing now are basically just small low-mAh mods that aren't clunky in your pocket but can run out of battery or juice and is convenient to buy at most stores. But it's good to know that basically a good ol mod and rebuildable rta (esp w juice flow control for when it's 100 degrees in a car vs 5 degrees in winter let alone if a coil is slightly under or over wicked w cotton to prevent leaks/burnt hits) is often suggested for those looking for the most practical, cost effective, user options, and also buying online is often suggested as the corner store stuff is like 2x the price and limited options. Basically I'm not missing out on anything to try and just buy vape stuff at the store even though I thought that was the new way, sorry shop owners etc or those that buy a lot from stores but the tree I fell from was always online stuff had the best options and seems to still hold true even with the huge displays of vape stuff in stores now compared to ~8 years ago. The pods themselves, even empty to fill with juice also costs more than I expected @ ~$5 a piece which isn't much but compared to an rta if you don't mind spending a few mins every week or so rebuilding it cost like a penny.
Basically I'm leaning towards something even smaller than an 18650 but with replaceable battery if that even exists, Is there not a single AA lithium ion replaceable battery type mod possible? Or even something with a common lithium ion pack that you can easily and safely replace without soldering or anything? That plus a small stout ~2.5ml rebuildable tank so it's light and not bulky in the pocket is a main factor. I don't think there's really pods with rebuildable coil options although some sort of have that option but once the battery inside dies you might have to find all new gear if they start to become discontinued if you didn't stock up on them expecting something slightly better to come out despite not game-changing.
anyway just blabbering a bit off topic, but 50MG?!
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