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DogMan

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Ryan from hiliq says it is like WTA, but not. Just inspired by it.


Unfortunately, he knocked off for the weekend about an hour later.

Hopefully it actually contains the minor alkaloids anabasine, nornicotine, anatabine, cotinine and myosmine (WTA) and not just flavour (NETs)
 

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I can't tell what it is either.
The site does a poor job of explaining.
I guess it depends on their definition of "pure natural tobacco extracts"

By the way it's worded here they seem to be suggesting using it as a base.
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It would be nice if Hiliq were a little more clear with their communications.
 

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I can't tell what it is either.
The site does a poor job of explaining.
I guess it depends on their definition of "pure natural tobacco extracts"

By the way it's worded here they seem to be suggesting using it as a base.
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It would be nice if Hiliq were a little more clear with their communications.
Do you use WTA? I don't care about flavour, although neutral like nic base is best

Just wondering about minor alkaloids
 

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Do you use WTA? I don't care about flavour, although neutral like nic base is best

Just wondering about minor alkaloids

I have tried WTA eliquid before but don't use it regularly.
How long has this nicotine tobacco formula been on their site for?
 

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I have tried WTA eliquid before but don't use it regularly.
How long has this nicotine tobacco formula been on their site for?
Very recently. Launch is the 5ty November I think

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Very recently. Launch is the 5ty November I think

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Are you getting a 10ml sample?
From this there seems to be no telling what you'll get. lol
 

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Are you getting a 10ml sample?
From this there seems to be no telling what you'll get. lol
I am

I'm not overly hopeful. But worth a try, with aroma closing down, omvapors unable to find a new manufacturer for WTA.
 

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I am

I'm not overly hopeful. But worth a try, with aroma closing down, omvapors unable to find a new manufacturer for WTA.

omvapors is where I got the WTA eliquid that I tried from.
it is worth a shot.
Have you ordered from Hiliq in the past?
 

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omvapors is where I got the WTA eliquid that I tried from.
it is worth a shot.
Have you ordered from Hiliq in the past?
Yes. Mostly positive. I have read others say that some batches of nicotine have been yellowed.
 

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Yes. Mostly positive. I have read others say that some batches of nicotine have been yellowed.
I have ordered from them before but it's been a few years.
 

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Since this nicobacco has been around for more than a year now I decided to give it a try and see if it compares to wta at all which I’ve been missing lately since I ran out finally. My order should be delivered tomorrow. Made it to the us in 2 days from china through fedex so I’m assuming it’s not labeled as nicotine or anything vape related.
 

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I got my order of nicobacco yesterday and mixed some down to 12mg 50/50 which is my all day vape in any juice and used no flavoring at all. I can say without a doubt this tastes very much like several of the different net's i've had so definitely a tobacco taste. Very close to at least one of the tobacco absolutes i've tried in the past. As far as being related to wta though i am going to personally say no way. To me it feels like a decent nicotine and i do like the net flavor but i don't feel like it's related to wta at all. In fact i'd go as far as to say it speeds me up a bit like some of the better nics i've bought but in no way is it any more or less satisfying than any of my other nicotine juices, except for the good net flavor. Since i have 100ml of this it just means i'm good on nic for even longer than i was before but still missing wta. I guess we all have little hope of ever seeing that again.

As a side note no one should have issues getting nic delivered from hiliq as long as it's ok for them to recieve vegetable glycerin in the mail. The bottle was labeled vegetable glycerin and i asked hiliq about it and they confirmed that they threw on that label to get it through customs with no issues. And it worked like a charm, i had my order delivered 3 days after ordering through fedex.
 

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I found a company that sells a wta made in the Uk. From the manufacturers description it’s supposed to be better than wta because the alkaloids are balanced to match the proportion in a cigarette. I found a few places that sell it but only this one that ships outside the uk. https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/ The juice is from a company called wholenic and if you search the site for wholenic it will show you the wta’s they carry. I’m seriously thinking about trying some but since I just bought the Hiliq I’ll wait till after the holidays.

here is the link for wholenic that explains what it is https://staging.wholenic.co.uk/

Update; I tried placing an order and the vapeclub does not ship to the US. Oh well back to the beginning.
 
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So after spending 3 days vaping nicobacco I’ve changed my opinion. First off the 12mg I mixed it at is too strong to do all day long. I get too jittery. However having said that, I switched up yesterday by vaping a regular nic juice all day with only occasionally hitting the nicobacco when I felt the need to take the edge off and this nicobacco does seem to have some wta properties. It does take the edge off quickly and is satisfying when used this way. I’m not sure how much better or worse it will be when mixed into an all day vape using a small amount like maybe 10% but that’s my next experiment I guess.
 

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So after spending 3 days vaping nicobacco I’ve changed my opinion. First off the 12mg I mixed it at is too strong to do all day long. I get too jittery. However having said that, I switched up yesterday by vaping a regular nic juice all day with only occasionally hitting the nicobacco when I felt the need to take the edge off and this nicobacco does seem to have some wta properties. It does take the edge off quickly and is satisfying when used this way. I’m not sure how much better or worse it will be when mixed into an all day vape using a small amount like maybe 10% but that’s my next experiment I guess.
I think the B formula is OK. A formula was speedy

I have some in storage for when my aroma runs out. But it is not as good
 

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I’m using B formula and I find it speedy at the 12 mg I mixed it down too if I vape just it all day. Haven’t tried it in a mix yet so I’ll do that next.
 

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I sent an email to Hiliq to see if I can get a straight answer as to whether this nicobacco contains the other alkaloids or not. I’m waiting for a reply. It’s really peaked my curiosity because I added the nicobacco at 10% to one of my juices and vaped it all day and it definitely kept me calmer all day. It felt more satisfying at least to the extent that I noticed the satisfaction. Not as relaxed as using aroma but still a difference I could notice. I’ll post their reply once I get one.
 

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So no chance of wta in the Hiliq nicobacco. Here is the response I received:

Our nicobacco is not WTA.
Pure natural tobacco extract is actually the purest tobacco concentrate. For the tobacco flavour, unfortunately we cannot disclose the specific ingredients as this is part of our trademark.
 

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I'm down to 0.1008mg WTA. Which is comprised of mostly nicotine, for those unaware. A whack of cotinine, which is degraded nic. Next most abundant is nornicotine which is only there because it is too hard to separate

So under 0.05mg split between 3 remaining minor alkaloids. Hopefully I can wean off before running out. Since it is proper banned here now. Happened same time nicotine went prescription only

I am down from 9mg WTA (total) and 50mg nicotine. To 37mg nic and 0.1008mg WTA. I stayed steady for most of 7 years and have dropped progressively over about 18 months
 

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