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outwest

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Last week was at fair and was sitting down outside of the building, hitting my Sigelei w/Troll RDA. I wasn't blowing clouds, just small puffs (was 18mg on dual coil setup) and two different people (about 10ft away) gave me "the look" when they passed by, as though I was smoking crack or something. What the hell?!? Would they rather I be blowing clouds of toxic, nasty, stinky, smoke in their face?

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nabibrian

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I will not and I do not try to hide my vaping. I do my best to respect those around me but why should I vape in secret with smokers all around me. Yeah, nice try but I have as much a right to vape as those who smoke.
 

outwest

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Likewise, unless I'm somewhere where the idiots have banned it because it looks too much like smoking. I was floored with the look of disapproval and disgust the morons gave me.

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Some people ,still know nothing about vaping ,and could be afraid of it . I would like to think that , or they just could be plain crazy .
 

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Pretty ironic that the hand to mouth and vapor that mimics smoke is a big part of why we could stop smoking, but why it's looked down on. It looks too much like smoking and their disapproval is conditioned and automatic. In my early vaping days, I used to get curious looks and questions. I had a chance to explain vaping and educate people about it, but now they have preconceived notions, thanks to the PR machine of BP and BT.
 

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people don't like smoke or what is perceived as smoke going their way. whether it's cigarette smoke, or from a camp fire or a vaporizer. especially if they don't know what you're smoking on. i can understand that.
 

zaroba

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*shrug* I'm sure I get plenty of looks while I vape with my mutation x RDAs.
I got used to ignoring the looks when I smoked cigs, as I would often smoke in unconventional places like on long hiking trails in parks. Or other places that are more typically associated with a healthy lifestyle.

Even have the occasional smoker try and give the "they say e-cigs are more harmful" bs.
Somebody said that to me a few days ago, my reply was "yea, and who are 'they'?".
He couldn't answer and kept trying to say other stuff to make them worse then cigs.
Said I didn't really know whats in my eliquid. Yea, well, I make my own so I do know. Try again.
You'll get fluid in your lungs. You see me blowing it back out so obviously it's not staying there. You also get moisture in your lungs in the shower, or any other humid environment. Try again.
Eventually ended with him trying to say that vegetable glycerin is oil.

Was going to call him out and say he was just trying to find something against them for the sake of it and that he was naive if he thought the chemical laced cigs he was smoking were actually healthier, but then 2 more vapors came outside, overhead us going back and forth about VG and started walking over. He noticed and quickly turned his attention to his cell phone.

Other smokers were pretty much just standing there listening and not trying to take one side or the other. So, I have hopes that many are more curious or at least not against it, while the ones that more likely to try and challenge only do so it when they feel a 'strength in numbers'.
 
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outwest

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I got one of those "they say those things are really bad for you" comments from a smoker yesterday. I explained about the way the media twisted the facts regarding formaldehyde and he seemed to listen.

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zaroba

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Its not a matter of dripping, its a matter of what ohms and watts your using to do it. Not much difference between a 1.8 ohm tank at 12 watts and a 1.8 ohm dripper at 12 watts.
 

zaroba

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He said he was using a troll rda, he said 18mg.

That second post you quoted is what my post was a reply to. Since people often look at dripping as having to be low nic. The 1.8 ohms i mentioned was only an example since dripping doesn't necessarily mean low ohms.
 

Rhyno636

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He said he was using a troll rda, he said 18mg.

That second post you quoted is what my post was a reply to. Since people often look at dripping as having to be low nic. The 1.8 ohms i mentioned was only an example since dripping doesn't necessarily mean low ohms.

Just for discussion, but in my opinion it doesn't matter what wattage or what resistance your equipment is. Using 18mg nic with any efficient nicotine delivery system is a lot. Ive assisted many people in quitting cigarettes with vaping. Recently my go to set up is a Tobeco supertank, an istick50, and 12mg ejuice. Ive been very successful with this. (actually they have been the successful ones) I personally quit cigs with 24mg juice, but that was using an evod. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your posts, or maybe vice versa, either or 18mg is a lot for dripping!
 

zaroba

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But why does it matter if its dripping?

Like your 24mg with an evod. Why would it be any different on a dripper using the exact same wattage and coils? I can't see it being any more effecient. Only difference between the two would be the method of delivery of juice to the coils.

People rebuild tank coils all the time, even ones not meant to be rebuilt. Its ok to rebuild the head of a tank and vape 24mg juice but the min those same coils are put in an rda and run at the exact same wattage its instantly a bad idea to drip 24mg?

I just don't see why people instantly think high nic = no dripping.
 
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smacksy

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Speaking for myself when I drip on sub ohm builds, like this dual 24g in the Dark Horse..
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This wire is thick and gets alot hotter than a evod tank...it is .22 ohm, and nic delivery is very efficient, compared to a evod tank..it also produces thicker clouds than an evod tank..
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Dripping 18mgs of nic on this build would be like smoking a whole pack of cigs at once, possibly making you puke..
That said I drip 5mgs of nic..two hits and I'm good.. 3 hits I get the tingles ..
Like everyone here has stated, cut back your nic if you drip on a sub ohm build like this one..

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zaroba

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Yes, on a aub ohm setup.
I use a 0.14 ohn made from 20 gauge myself and drip 0-3mg.

But the op never stated he sub ohms.
He only stated that he was dripping 18mg.

All i am saying is that he may not be using a setup that is too powerful for high mg nic so people shouldnt instantly jump to the conclusing that somebody is bed for dripping a high nic juice.
 

smacksy

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But who do you know drips on a 1.0 + ohm build? When I think of dripping it's always sub ohm, so I guess that's why I responded the way I did....oh well..happy trails

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Rhyno636

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But why does it matter if its dripping?

Like your 24mg with an evod. Why would it be any different on a dripper using the exact same wattage and coils? I can't see it being any more effecient. Only difference between the two would be the method of delivery of juice to the coils.

People rebuild tank coils all the time, even ones not meant to be rebuilt. Its ok to rebuild the head of a tank and vape 24mg juice but the min those same coils are put in an rda and run at the exact same wattage its instantly a bad idea to drip 24mg?

I just don't see why people instantly think high nic = no dripping.
I rebuilt the evods. That's irrelevant. It's the vapor volume that is different. The more vapor you have, obviously the more nicotine you'll get. Let's be real, there is no way in hell he was using his troll at anything above 1 ohm. 18 in a kayfun, sure. 18 on a troll, no way. I don't think anyone would be out of line to assume he was sub ohming.
 

Rhyno636

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Also,
Nobody is saying there is a difference between tanks and rdas. I use the same nicotine level in both. Typically rdas have a slight edge over most tanks, but it's not like a mutation vs' an evod anymore. Wattage doesn't even matter. Its all about the clouds, regardless of how you get there.
 

z man

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But who do you know drips on a 1.0 + ohm build? When I think of dripping it's always sub ohm, so I guess that's why I responded the way I did....oh well..happy trails

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Let Me introduce Myself....My nam is Z Man and I drip on a patriot rda screwed to a Istick mini....running at five volts (Max for the mini) It's a 1.1 ohm,28ga.kanthal,1/8"I.D coil 6/7 wrap and it billows!....I did drip 18 mg. menthol....Three hits and I was spinnin'.....Cut it with V.G. down to about 4 or 5 mg. and still get the brain freeze from the menthol....Z
 

smacksy

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Let Me introduce Myself....My nam is Z Man and I drip on a patriot rda screwed to a Istick mini....running at five volts (Max for the mini) It's a 1.1 ohm,28ga.kanthal,1/8"I.D coil 6/7 wrap and it billows!....I did drip 18 mg. menthol....Three hits and I was spinnin'.....Cut it with V.G. down to about 4 or 5 mg. and still get the brain freeze from the menthol....Z
How 'bout that! I've been vaping three years and learn something new everyday! If it works for you brother I'm happy for ya!..

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outwest

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OP here, my Troll is set up with dual coil, 0.5 ohms, 33watts.

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outwest

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Zaroba is now giving you that look.
"Rrrrrrrreally"???
Laf. I find myself often vaping in areas where large clouds would be frowned upon. The ultra high nic helps to compensate for the fact that I'm often relegated to only a few, small, puffs.

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Merrick92

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At one point in my journey I had a mini rda that I ran at 1.2 ohms/12 watts,with 18 mg juice. So there are ppl out there whom use a dripper at that high a resistance,js..... I would tend to agree though that you may get more vapor production(back in the day at least) from a dipper if only because of airflow. That also plays a part as well as your resistance and wattage.This has changed since with more airflow in the newer tanks,but still......:)
 

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