Why are smokers abandoning tobacco for e-cigs, and what’s the future of the industry?

[5150sick]

http://www.enidnews.com/news/going-vape/article_9f1733a4-9ece-11e4-89d1-f3d95cf1dc13.html


"Smokers are abandoning tobacco for e-cigs"

The Surgeon General should be announcing this with a huge smile on his face.
And Tobacco Control experts should be applauding while busting nuts in their pants!
But for some goofy ass reason such as 'it looks like smoking' they are not - 5150


"Vapor starter kits start at $35, and a 10 ml refill bottle costs $5, which Cash said will smoke the equivalent of a carton of cigarettes"

They really need to stop saying this.
A 10 ml or 36 mg/ml may be equal to 3 or 4 packs, maybe

But a 10 ml of 3 mg/ml is like 4 cigarettes worth.

Keep saying shit like this and there will be a $30.00 tax on every 10ml's of juice even if it contains NO nicotine! - 5150

 

[vaperature]

3ml of 18 or 24mg to me gives the same satisfaction as a pack of cigarettes when used in a standard, non-sub-ohm tank. So 10ml is about 3 packs. Not sure if the mgs matter that much, some people do smoke light and ultra-light cigs.

 

[vaperature]

vaping could increase complications for people with asthma.

Seriously? How many asthmatics vape?

 

[5150sick]

That would mean a 30ml would be about equal to a carton.

At the same tax as cigarettes (around $2.00 a pack) that would add $20.00 to the price of a 30ml.

That is sickening! but not as sickening as a $20.00 tax on every 10ml's of juice.

That would mean there would be a $60.00 tax on every 30ml bottle of eliquid!

Does that sound fair to anybody?
FUCK NO!!!

 

[5150sick]

vaping could increase complications for people with asthma.

Seriously? How many asthmatics vape?

How many asthmatics and people with COPD have made the switch and say their symptoms have all but vanished since?

 

[vaperature]

That would mean a 30ml would be about equal to a carton.

At the same tax as cigarettes (around $2.00 a pack) that would add $20.00 to the price of a 30ml.

That is sickening! but not as sickening as a $20.00 tax on every 10ml's of juice.

That would mean there would be a $60.00 tax on every 30ml bottle of eliquid!

Does that sound fair to anybody?
FUCK NO!!!

I see you don't live in Chicago. The tax here is more like $7 a pack.

 

[BigNasty]

for those in sales tax lands... sales tax only across the board.
For those not in facist states business as usual.

 

[vaperature]

How many asthmatics and people with COPD have made the switch and say their symptoms have all but vanished since?

I don't know, but if you're an asthmatic and you are putting ANYTHING into your lungs, you're asking for trouble. So using asthma to make a point about vaping is in its roots preposterous.

 

[5150sick]

I see you don't live in Chicago. The tax here is more like $7 a pack.

So $70.00 tax on 10 milliliters of eliquid!!!

You see what we are up against.

Some greedy politicians are looking to replace their old cash crop (the tobacco cigarette) because they have been found to kill half of their taxpayers.

You notice how pot is now all of a sudden a good thing to be using?

 

[vaperature]

So $70.00 tax on 10 milliliters of eliquid!!!

You see what we are up against.

Some greedy politicians are looking to replace their old cash crop (the tobacco cigarette) because they have been found to kill half of their taxpayers.

You notice how pot is now all of a sudden a good thing to be using?

Time to stock up on DIY supplies.

 

[5150sick]

I don't know, but if you're an asthmatic and you are putting ANYTHING into your lungs, you're asking for trouble. So using asthma to make a point about vaping is in its roots preposterous.

I understand that vaping isn't good for asthma.
But is it better for a smoker with asthma who would otherwise not quit smoking make the switch to vaping?

 

[vaperature]

I understand that vaping isn't good for asthma.
But is it better for a smoker with asthma who would otherwise not quit smoking make the switch to vaping?

I agree with you 100%, just saying if an asthmatic is smoking to begin with he's not the brightest bulb in the room.

 

[5150sick]

Time to stock up on DIY supplies.

I have 6 120ml bottles of 100mg/ml nic base in my freezer.
There is a non tobacco menthol eliquid that I have been using as my all day vape in my "fill and vape" tanks since i started vaping 2 1/2 yrs ago.
The menthol is quite strong so I cut it in half with 24mg/ml nic base turning every 30ml into 2 30ml's
As I use a 120ml 100mg/ml bottle from the freezer I replace it with a new one.
I also buy PG and VG by the liter for cutting the nic base to 25/mg ml (it's easy to cut 100mg/ml with pg/vg by a quarter to make 25mg/ml)

 

[5150sick]

I agree with you 100%, just saying if an asthmatic is smoking to begin with he's not the brightest bulb in the room.

A parent of an asthmatic child should make the switch if they smoke inside the home.
There is no reason not to switch.

 

[vaperature]

I have 6 120ml bottles of 100mg/ml nic base in my freezer.
There is a non tobacco menthol eliquid that I have been using as my all day vape in my "fill and vape" tanks since i started vaping 2 1/2 yrs ago.
The menthol is quite strong so I cut it in half with 24mg/ml nic base turning every 30ml into 2 30ml's
As I use a 120ml 100mg/ml bottle from the freezer I replace it with a new one.
I also buy PG and VG by the liter for cutting the nic base to 25/mg ml (it's easy to cut 100mg/ml with pg/vg by a quarter to make 25mg/ml)

I have about 300ml of 100mg nic in my freezer as well. At the rate I vape that would be good for at least a year, maybe two.

 

[vaperature]

A parent of an asthmatic child should make the switch if they smoke inside the home.
There is no reason not to switch.

TRUE THAT!!!!!!

 

[BigNasty]

So $70.00 tax on 10 milliliters of eliquid!!!

You see what we are up against.

Some greedy politicians are looking to replace their old cash crop (the tobacco cigarette) because they have been found to kill half of their taxpayers.

You notice how pot is now all of a sudden a good thing to be using?

Then the motherfuckers need to tax per mg/ml in BP items also... increases on tobacco as well... I mean it is only fair..
They are the ones to mandated MORE chemicals in cigs, MORE taxes for smoking prevention but not a fucking cent has been in prevention or for the fucking children. They cannot have it both ways.
If they pass the tax, recall their asses, get the shit tax repealed.