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Trim the wicks, that's really all you need to do to it right out of the package, and perhaps rotate the ring or swap it out for the double airflow ring depending on how you like it. That's really all you need to do.
However be aware of the wick and one issue, if the wick is too tightly packed into the channels cutting off the possible air from there completely you'll likely encounter some issues filling it if you don't use a dropper. The standard unicorn bottles seem to be slightly too short to reach into the hole, and if you drip a little on the side of the whole you risk what happened to at least 2 of us that I know of.
The juice will create a seal keeping the air in the tank portion so the juice will just fill up the top portion around the deck, no bueno. To fix that you can just plunge something into the hole and wick and kind of pull the air up until the juice flows down into the tank portion... easier if you leave a little room for pressure release with the wick or use a dropper. That's about it, it's a nice and pretty toy.
However be aware of the wick and one issue, if the wick is too tightly packed into the channels cutting off the possible air from there completely you'll likely encounter some issues filling it if you don't use a dropper. The standard unicorn bottles seem to be slightly too short to reach into the hole, and if you drip a little on the side of the whole you risk what happened to at least 2 of us that I know of.
The juice will create a seal keeping the air in the tank portion so the juice will just fill up the top portion around the deck, no bueno. To fix that you can just plunge something into the hole and wick and kind of pull the air up until the juice flows down into the tank portion... easier if you leave a little room for pressure release with the wick or use a dropper. That's about it, it's a nice and pretty toy.
Suck My Mod mentioned in his video, to poke down besides the wicks with a small hex key, or other small thing, in order to allow for air to go into the liquid's reservoir. Otherwise, you would get wicking problems.
I just got mine out of the mailbox. Shortened the wicks, as described in Suck My Mod's video, filled her up (w/ a Unicorn bottle nonetheless!), changed to the dual airflow ring (although not all the way open), and took a few more drags. Changed the drip tip too. Nice clouds and flavor now! However, it goes through the eJuice real quick. I took maybe 15 drags, and the tank is almost empty. So, there you have a con, the tank is too small! 
Looks nice on my Pico though.
Looks nice on my Pico though.
That's all these style of tanks, worth it though I think, especially with easy filling. They're really basically RDA's with extra large juice wells.I just got mine out of the mailbox. Shortened the wicks, as described in Suck My Mod's video, filled her up (w/ a Unicorn bottle nonetheless!), changed to the dual airflow ring (although not all the way open), and took a few more drags. Changed the drip tip too. Nice clouds and flavor now! However, it goes through the eJuice real quick. I took maybe 15 drags, and the tank is almost empty. So, there you have a con, the tank is too small!
And, you're right I do remember him saying that about the hex key now that you mentioned it. I was already anticipating it because of my Avocado, but I wanted to see how it would work simply putting juice in it and going, you know for science or something
Obviously, I had to refill my tank already, again used the Unicorn bottle. However, I noticed, it wasn't going into the tank as easy as it did the first time. Therefore, I took the tooth pick of my Swiss Army pocket knife and repositioned one wick, and I was able to fill her up again.That's all these style of tanks, worth it though I think, especially with easy filling. They're really basically RDA's with extra large juice wells.
And, you're right I do remember him saying that about the hex key now that you mentioned it. I was already anticipating it because of my Avocado, but I wanted to see how it would work simply putting juice in it and going, you know for science or something
I also switched to TC mode, with the right settings it's also performing as expected. Yum, yum!
Obviously, I had to refill my tank already, again used the Unicorn bottle. However, I noticed, it wasn't going into the tank as easy as it did the first time. Therefore, I took the tooth pick of my Swiss Army pocket knife and repositioned one wick, and I was able to fill her up again. I might lube the top o-ring with some eJuice, 'cause it wasn't easy to get the top off.
I also switched to TC mode, with the right settings it's also performing as expected. Yum, yum!
I also switched to TC mode, with the right settings it's also performing as expected. Yum, yum!
Yes, I use the TC for SS coils. I do the same with my Crown's SS replacement coils. IMO, TC works just as good as it does with my home made SS coils in my RDAs.
Mines sitting in the mailbox waiting for me to get off work.
Well I got mine, trimmed the wicks, notch coil was bad for me. Would get dry hits at 35 watts and and in temp control. Threw that out, put it in a clapton trimmed wick just below the juice channel and flavor was good. Ive read about the notch coil being dry hit city before.
I doubt the coil itself is the reason for dry hits, but rather the wicking of it. I verified the wick in the coil before my first test run. I even went up to 70W without any problems.
Yea I set mine up last night as well. Theres some good and some bad about it. Notch coils are mixed for me. They do give dry hits UBER easy. Seems like I just give it a warm look and its hitting dry. But at the same time, I havent ever gotten the amount of vapor or flavor at 35 watts that I get from the Notch. But I do think Im gonna chuck it too. Anything over 40 is constant dry hits and over 35 is about 50/50. Gonna throw some dual aliens or something in there and see how it handles.
As for the tank itself, again, goods and bads. I like the ease of use. The grab and go factor. No airflow to fuck with, no worrying about juice flow controls or any dials to move around in your pocket. Very simplistic feel to it. I dig that. I dont much like the bottom feeding wicking though, just on first impression. That might change with different coils though.
Over all its not what I expected, but I dont know what I expected. I just saw those notch coils and got suckered into preordering by the $20 price and the newness factor. Its cool though, Ill use it for a while, see what happens.
As for the tank itself, again, goods and bads. I like the ease of use. The grab and go factor. No airflow to fuck with, no worrying about juice flow controls or any dials to move around in your pocket. Very simplistic feel to it. I dig that. I dont much like the bottom feeding wicking though, just on first impression. That might change with different coils though.
Over all its not what I expected, but I dont know what I expected. I just saw those notch coils and got suckered into preordering by the $20 price and the newness factor. Its cool though, Ill use it for a while, see what happens.
I've been vaping mine at 50-65w just fine
The top coil/rdta/bottom tank/genesis-style/whatthefuckeveryoucallit type toys have a lot of little quirks you have to get used to. Improper wicking will result in very slow...wicking (arg, umm I mean if you put the cotton in incorrectly it won't suck the juice up as fast as it could/should/needs to be).
The top coil/rdta/bottom tank/genesis-style/whatthefuckeveryoucallit type toys have a lot of little quirks you have to get used to. Improper wicking will result in very slow...wicking (arg, umm I mean if you put the cotton in incorrectly it won't suck the juice up as fast as it could/should/needs to be).
Also it needs too much refilling. I mean 2mls should last alot more, it lasts more on my griffin thats for sure, my boreas is another juice hog you give it 2 ml and as soon as you open the juice control it disappears.
My plan is wismec for home and boreas when on the go. No need for a griffin ( its a nice tank but wicking can be a bitch) so I'm gonna sell it, and my top tank mini well probably just throw it away since its dry hit city with those tiny juice holes. Ill keep the mod though since its an ice portable mod that supports SS TC control.
My plan is wismec for home and boreas when on the go. No need for a griffin ( its a nice tank but wicking can be a bitch) so I'm gonna sell it, and my top tank mini well probably just throw it away since its dry hit city with those tiny juice holes. Ill keep the mod though since its an ice portable mod that supports SS TC control.
Received mine on Monday, and still enjoying it with a simple 26awg 3mm SS316L TC build. Didn't care for the Notch too much. I got my 2nd one in the mail yesterday and immediately took out the Notch and put my own coil in. I have started trimming my wicks pretty short, like maybe 2.5-3mm into the tank. Still no leaking. Wicks like a dream, and all I have to do is tilt when I vape, kinda like my old Vivi Nova days, only now with lots more badassness!
I've now got 2 of these little beasts and I totally agree about those notch coils I am not in favour of them, tried vaping them in temperature mode and also in just plain wattage mode and I was not getting a totally agreeable vape from them, so in went a simple clapton coil and they transformed these little beasts. Now I'm really enjoying the vape they are giving me.
I wish it had a slightly bigger tank so they would hold a bit more juice. I hope they do release another version with a bigger tank, maybe a 25mm version as I sure it would still give off a great vape
I wish it had a slightly bigger tank so they would hold a bit more juice. I hope they do release another version with a bigger tank, maybe a 25mm version as I sure it would still give off a great vape
I finally had enough of that shitty Notch coil. It sucks. Super prone to dry hits, even rewicked. Dont like them, which is super disappointing since the Notch coils are basically the whole reason I preordered one in the first place (since when I preordered way back, everything I read said the coils are only available with the tank).
So I ditched the little bastard and put a big boy build in it. Slapped in a dual fused staggered clapton build, 3mm ID, 5 wraps, comes in at 0.19. And now Im impressed with this little tank. The thing handles some heat and can chuck clouds and is a flavor machine! All while being no bigger than a Moonshot. Since the Notch coils are something like 5mm, the build space is quite large and you can fit some pretty decent size coils in it comfortably. Really sweet design.
Heres a pic of the set up. (Notice the wick runs through both coils, there wasnt space for independant wicks, also dont pay attention to the shitty staggering, this was my first attempt at wrapping staggers and I did it freehand.)
So I ditched the little bastard and put a big boy build in it. Slapped in a dual fused staggered clapton build, 3mm ID, 5 wraps, comes in at 0.19. And now Im impressed with this little tank. The thing handles some heat and can chuck clouds and is a flavor machine! All while being no bigger than a Moonshot. Since the Notch coils are something like 5mm, the build space is quite large and you can fit some pretty decent size coils in it comfortably. Really sweet design.
Heres a pic of the set up. (Notice the wick runs through both coils, there wasnt space for independant wicks, also dont pay attention to the shitty staggering, this was my first attempt at wrapping staggers and I did it freehand.)
Interesting build setup, I tried dual vertical 28 guage ss and it sucked, also the tank gets way to damn hot when chain vaping, It burnt me. So I threw that away and put in 8 wraps of 22 gauge kanthal and it works alot better. Now I would say if I lost this tank, I would not buy again. You can't vape more than 30 minutes on this tank. Have to constant refill and its kind of annoying. Will continue on boreas.
I probably wouldnt buy another one either. Its an ok tank, but with all the great RTAs being thrown around lately, being just ok isnt good enough.
I did see however there is a Theorem V2 on fasttech right now (clone of some sort), and it looks interesting. Its got a Velocity style deck, a spitback guard under the driptip, And a new, really cool looking, closable driptip. For only $10 I might pick that one up.
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Oh, I just tried mine. This Notch coil is terrible! I need to get it vaped dry so I can rebuild it.
Lmao, I had the same thought on the 2nd or 3rd hit. I was like "Damn, now I gotta vape this whole tank so I can put new coils in it". Didnt even cross my mind to just dump the juice down the drain.
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I'm going to dump the juice. I can't stand it!
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Ok, I have a big, fat Clapton in it now. It's vaping fine, but I'm not overly impressed. I'll be going to duals next.
I disagree there, for me the Theorem brings out different aspects of my juices, it's still a very good vape but the Boreas are still my favourite tank.
I've always felt there were two main components of flavor, richness and purity. Richness being like taking a big spoonful of icecream. Purity being like dropping the extra cash to buy your favorite brand rather than the store brand. If that all makes sense. RDAs get you both, the top coil stuff getting you purity at a drop in richness, and RTAs like the Boreas getting you richness at a drop in purity. At least that's how I see it. The Avocado was the best of the bunch (Dual coils, though wicks less efficiently compared to something like the Boreas) I've found outside of RDAs because nothing compares with a well dripped atomizer, but it had the added convenience.I disagree there, for me the Theorem brings out different aspects of my juices, it's still a very good vape but the Boreas are still my favourite tank.
Overall I'm glad I have what I have and I use them all. I got the the Griffin, Boreas, Diablo, Petri v2 clone, TM2 clone, and Theorem all working for me nicely and being used regularly. All having different levels of richness and purity, but nothing touches my Petri on the Noisy Cricket, just boom flavor!
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It does? It was starting to come around for me last night with some flavor, but I'm gonna need to experiment more with this one. 6.5v of power for an ordinary 26/32 Clapton seems kind of crazy to get there.
Jerus, I agree on that NC/Petri combo, my most used favorite setup. Have you ever tried a bottom feeder?
Im not even using claptons. Simple 22 gauge 8 wraps. Blows a huge clouds too.
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It does blow a huge cloud.
I have not, that's still on my list, but with so many mods that I enjoy going already I just cut myself off for a while at least.
I have a question about the orientation of the deck. I like to tip my mod towards the wicks while vaping with the Theorem. I have 2 of them, and the deck points in different directions on them when screwed down to the same mod (VT200.) I have to thumb the button on one and tilt the mod towards me, and finger the button on the other while kind of tilting my mod sideways. I've taken out the 510 pin, but it seems the deck doesn't move. Anyone know of a way I can spin the deck without breaking something?
Edit: Never mind. Some channel locks, needle nose, padding, and careful turning got it right where I want it
Edit: Never mind. Some channel locks, needle nose, padding, and careful turning got it right where I want it
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