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lirruping

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Well, not really. More like a Cherry Pie Love Fest. These were products of collaboration, and since the judges were also the creators, all three won blue ribbons :)

They are good, though, honestly! I think we're open to some better names, though, if anyone wants to step up.


Cherry Pie by Daintanee

1.5% FA black cherry
1% FA Vienna cream
0.75% FA cherry
0.5% FA Meringue
0.5% FA Cookie
0.5% FA Apple pie
0.25% FA Brandy

Cherry Pie by lirruping
(All FA except where noted):

2.0% Black Cherry
1.0% Vienna Cream
0.66% Cookie
1% INW Cherries
0.5% Meringue
0.66% Apple Pie
1.5% Custard
0.66% Fresh Cream

--> Optional variation to the above adds:
1% INW Cherries [this is very cherry, but I like it]
0.5% Pear [sweeter!]
0.5% Lemon Sicily [seems to make everything pop more]


Caddisfly Cherry Pie
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3% Black Cherry
1% Cherry
1% Cookie
0.5% Apple Pie
0.5% Vienna Cream
0.25% Meringue
0.25% Almond
0.25% Vanilla Classic
0.25% Orange


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Well, not really. More like a Cherry Pie Love Fest. These were products of collaboration, and since the judges were also the creators, all three won blue ribbons :)

They are good, though, honestly! I think we're open to some better names, though, if anyone wants to step up.


Cherry Pie by Daintanee

1.5% FA black cherry
1% FA Vienna cream
0.75% FA cherry
0.5% FA Meringue
0.5% FA Cookie
0.5% FA Apple pie
0.25% FA Brandy

Cherry Pie by lirruping
(All FA except where noted):

2.0% Black Cherry
1.0% Vienna Cream
0.66% Cookie
1% INW Cherries
0.5% Meringue
0.66% Apple Pie
1.5% Custard
0.66% Fresh Cream

--> Optional variation to the above adds:
1% INW Cherries
0.5% Pear
0.5% Lemon Sicily


Caddisfly Cherry Pie
(All FA)

3% Black Cherry
1% Cherry
1% Cookie
0.5% Apple Pie
0.5% Vienna Cream
0.25% Meringue
0.25% Almond
0.25% Vanilla Classic
0.25% Orange


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Well Done lirruping! My recipe looks accurate.

I like this approach to mixing. We came up with 3 different recipes and all are good. That gives others a choice as to which one to mix. Hint: Mix em all.
First, Cherry. Next...fig? :rolleyes:
 

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That was fun guys! Next time we work on a recipe let's make a thread so any and all can jump in.:cool:.
I agree. We tried that a couple times (how quickly one forgets) and met total silence. ( personally, I think it is because of excessive body odor.) It just couldn't be the recipes.:)
 

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All of these sound really good. I tried to make a cherry pie a couple months ago.... it was all wrong. Had too much crust and not enough sweet, but the FA cherry is right on.
#Winner's name "Cherry poppin' Pie" Lol, maybe??? or the more appropriate sounding option "Fresh Baked Cherry Pie"
 

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Me too

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Mix one (or three!) and get the very best possible feedback from your own faculties. I can promise you won't be deeply disappointed by any of them unless you hate cherry. I don't even like cherry that much but I make an exception for these and MamaJ's Cherry Pie. (Which, however, is different from any of the three recipes here, in case you already have that and are worried about redundancy).

As you can see from the OP, mine won a blue ribbon, so I suggest you mix that one first and report back immediately! :p
 
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Will these still be "okay" if I only have black cherry? I have to wait a little to get cherry.
 

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Will these still be "okay" if I only have black cherry? I have to wait a little to get cherry.
Honestly, I don't know for sure, having never tried it without two types of cherry, but I can say for sure you're better off with Black Cherry than if you only had just Cherry.

If I only had Black Cherry, I think I would mix Caddisfly's version, since it relies less on the blend of cherries than the others for interest. Or maybe this:

3.0% Black Cherry
1.0% Vienna Cream
0.66% Cookie
0.5% Meringue
0.66% Apple Pie
1.5% Custard
0.5% Fresh Cream

If the 0.66% measurements are too much trouble you could take them down to 0.5% for less crust or up to 0.75% for more crust. Personally, I really like it right in the middle there, and since I often use drops to measure and make small batches whose total volume is a multiple of three, I can do it pretty easily, eg, in a 9ml batch, three drops equals 1%, so one drop equals 0.33% and 2 drops equal 0.66%.
 
That was fun guys! Next time we work on a recipe let's make a thread so any and all can jump in.:cool:.

Hi Daintanee
Why did you add the 0.25 ml of FA Brandy? to boost another flavor? to add a hint of Brandy flavor?

And, did you improve this recipe?

TYVM :)
 

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I mixed up the caddisfly version, but I regret to report that I didn't have black cherry, it wasn't too bad, I can imagine what it would of been with the black cherry, kind of a bright cherry flavor, with the creaminess, hitting in there. Will try the other two soon, after I order that black cherry, thanks lirruping. And the other two recipe authors, great work here.
 

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Hi Daintanee
Why did you add the 0.25 ml of FA Brandy? to boost another flavor? to add a hint of Brandy flavor?

And, did you improve this recipe?

TYVM :)
Brandy? I was aiming to have more of a baked cherry flavor vs. a fresh cherry flavor. I am not clear in success. I have not yet tried to improve this, however I wonder if wine may give the cherry a more baked taste and I am intrigued by lirruping's use of custard as well as lemon. I regret not being able to mix her recipe due to not having inw cherries.
 

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So I made Daintanee version and caddisfly version today without cherry, The funny thing is I only intended to make Daintanee version but messed up and made the other one first so I decided to do both. I like both. I have never had cherry pie in real life other than those cherry pie turnovers in the wrapper. To me, the Daintanee version is very much like those but I can taste the orange, which is a good contrast.

Black cherry is a strong flavor with an interesting taste. I like it. This gives me a good understanding of its strength and how to use it since one had double the amount of the other.

Thanks for the recipes. These are both keepers. Now to get cherry to see how they are supposed to taste.
 

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I think most prefer black cherry over cherry. I wanted more crust in my pie as I am not a big cherry fan, unless it is nice and tart. Hey @lirruping , did adding the custard or lemon brighten up the cherry flavor? And when you taste inw cherries, can you describe it as sweet, tart, sour, tangy?
 
Brandy? I was aiming to have more of a baked cherry flavor vs. a fresh cherry flavor. I am not clear in success. I have not yet tried to improve this, however I wonder if wine may give the cherry a more baked taste and I am intrigued by lirruping's use of custard as well as lemon. I regret not being able to mix her recipe due to not having inw cherries.

So, the added Brandy is mainly used to give the Cherry a backed flavor only vs a fresh Cherry flavor. right? Brandy flavor will not be noticed at all?
I asked such a question because I really do not like any Liquor flavors and I want to make sure I do not notice it when vaping.
Thank you :)
 

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So, the added Brandy is mainly used to give the Cherry a backed flavor only vs a fresh Cherry flavor. right? Brandy flavor will not be noticed at all?
I asked such a question because I really do not like any Liquor flavors and I want to make sure I do not notice it when vaping.
Thank you :)
Try it w/o brandy and see how you like it first. Liquor vapes don't taste like liquor to me, but sweet. It is not necessary to add the brandy and I do notice it in there. We are all different and like different things. For example Caddisfly did not like it with the brandy. I like less cherry and more pie flavor, myself. So if you mix it up and find the cherry isn't strong enough for your palette add .5% more black cherry and taste agAin. You can keep adding a drop of flavor at a time till you get it to your liking. Also if you want your crust more baked you can add a .25-5% TFA Brown sugar extra.
 

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I think most prefer black cherry over cherry. I wanted more crust in my pie as I am not a big cherry fan, unless it is nice and tart. Hey @lirruping , did adding the custard or lemon brighten up the cherry flavor? And when you taste inw cherries, can you describe it as sweet, tart, sour, tangy?

I feel like the proportions of cookie, apple pie & custard all go toward making the crust rich and tasty. The proportions are appropriated from HIC's Lemon Meringue Pie, actually, whose crust I am so impressed by.

I am not sure if the lemon in the custard brightened the fa black/inw cherries combo--hard to say because..well it's complicated to describe, but trust me, I really don't know. I can definitely say the lemon sicily did, though. So chances are good it contributes positively.

INW Cherries is a terrific cherry flavor. I thought it was a dud--pure christmas candle--when I first smelled it and then vaped it solo. But after using it in a few blends I can say it's my favorite. It's a good combination of sweet, spicy and zingy. For my tastes, it does benefit from a little lemon or something to tart it up just slightly more. I am considering trying citric acid and/or a little white peach toward that end in a variation of my pie.
 

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I mixed up the caddisfly version, but I regret to report that I didn't have black cherry, it wasn't too bad, I can imagine what it would of been with the black cherry, kind of a bright cherry flavor, with the creaminess, hitting in there. Will try the other two soon, after I order that black cherry, thanks lirruping. And the other two recipe authors, great work here.
Yeah, you really have to have the Black Cherry. Its the combination of the two that give the real cherry flavor.
 

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I really want to try all three of these but all of them use Vienna Cream :(

Vienna Cream and I are on a break atm ....

:D
 

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Thank you! I'm really glad you like it. I have to say though, it was a group venture with feedback going all ways between lirruping, daintanee and me. And a heck of a lot of fun to do.
 

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I really want to try all three of these but all of them use Vienna Cream :(

Vienna Cream and I are on a break atm ....

:D
Do this for me. Try replacing Vienna Cream with Fresh cream. In doing this you replace all the various spices in vienna cream with nothing but pure cream. That way you can add your own thoughts of what should be in it to those that you would like to be in it. If you still find you are having a hard time, then cream is the problem and you can work from there.
 

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Did you guys get in a fight? Or is the romance just gone? I had that with Tiramisu for a while, but after taking some "space" we worked it out. A really good raspberry tiramisu make-up vape came out of it :)

LOL, yeah we had a little spat, not even sure how it all started ... :confused:

Yay, something to possibly look forward to ... the make-up vape!!! :D

Do this for me. Try replacing Vienna Cream with Fresh cream. In doing this you replace all the various spices in vienna cream with nothing but pure cream. That way you can add your own thoughts of what should be in it to those that you would like to be in it. If you still find you are having a hard time, then cream is the problem and you can work from there.

Yeah, it's not just the Vienna, I'm also on the outs with the Fresh Cream as well. :( I'm sure it's just a temporary thing. ( geez, that sentence just left a song worm in my head ... ' a girl in trouble is a temporary thing ' ... sorry, I am prone to spacing out at any time! lol )

Is there such thing as a decent pie without a cream element? I guess I could try these and just omit the cream portion ... hmmm.
 

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LOL, yeah we had a little spat, not even sure how it all started ... :confused:

Yay, something to possibly look forward to ... the make-up vape!!! :D



Yeah, it's not just the Vienna, I'm also on the outs with the Fresh Cream as well. :( I'm sure it's just a temporary thing. ( geez, that sentence just left a song worm in my head ... ' a girl in trouble is a temporary thing ' ... sorry, I am prone to spacing out at any time! lol )

Is there such thing as a decent pie without a cream element? I guess I could try these and just omit the cream portion ... hmmm.
Yes, try this.

All FA.
4.0% Fig
1.0% Meringue
0.5% Cinnamon Ceylon
0.5% Lemon Sicily
0.25% Clove

This is the Fig portion of a Fig Newton. I imagine it would work with other sweet fruits also.
 

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Yes, try this.

All FA.
4.0% Fig
1.0% Meringue
0.5% Cinnamon Ceylon
0.5% Lemon Sicily
0.25% Clove

This is the Fig portion of a Fig Newton. I imagine it would work with other sweet fruits also.

This is really good ... vaping it right now in fact. I see what you mean about it working well with other fruits too. Thanks again for coming up with this recipe! Feel free to change this but seeing as it had no title, I have dubbed it : C-Fly's Figlicious Fruit Vector. :D
 

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This is really good ... vaping it right now in fact. I see what you mean about it working well with other fruits too. Thanks again for coming up with this recipe! Feel free to change this but seeing as it had no title, I have dubbed it : C-Fly's Figlicious Fruit Vector. :D
Okay... Lol! Great name. It's offical. C-Fly's Figlicious Fruit Vector. I suppose I should try it with other fruits to see if it actually works.
 

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Just re red through this thread and was looking for steep time for these wonderful sounding pies any ideas?


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Thanks for bumping this one! I totally forgot about coming back and trying these after my, ahem, little tiff with Vienna and Fresh Cream, lol.

I foresee pie on my face in the very near future! :D

Not to speak for the recipe creators but all of these look like they would be vapable right out of the gate ... the one with custard ( by lirruping ) might benefit with a little age but I'd bet it's good fresh too.
 

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Just re red through this thread and was looking for steep time for these wonderful sounding pies any ideas?


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I don't know how to steep. I'm too impatient! I tried mine and Caddisfly's fresh. I never did get inw cherries to try lurruping's. It's been so long I don't even remember how these tasted, but if I recall Caddisfly's was better than mine except that I needed to reduce the cherry due to my personal preference.
 

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@amanda.brock, Definitely steep the one with the custard for a few days, at least, I'd say! We had fun making these experiments and I recently mixed the custard version again--it's (not surprisingly) suited to my own preferences, which means it's on the creamy/crusty side. Caddisfly's is most complex and interesting. Daintainee's is like a simple cherry tart laced with brandy.

You could probably do your own version pretty easily, combining elements of two or more of these.
If you like the idea of a cherry pie vape, it might be fun. If you do, I hope you post it :)
 

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Thanks to all of you for these great recipes I can't wait to try them, thanks again for kindly sharing:thanks::thanks::thanks:
 

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You could probably do your own version pretty easily, combining elements of two or more of these.
If you like the idea of a cherry pie vape, it might be fun. If you do, I hope you post it :)

I keep staring (and drooling) over these 3 fine cherry pie recipes. I keep wondering if with the addition of some Cap or TPA VBIC (or both), I might come up with something like a Cherry Pie..ala mode. My concern is that the VBIC, for it to stand out, might mute the cherry pie too much. That and the amount of total flavor used perhaps being so high as to give off a chemical taste.
Perhaps I should just stick with the "Daintanee Method". :idea:

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We were specifically trying to make pies without using any diketone flavors in this exercise. One idea could be upping the Vienna Cream by a point or two for a more ice creamy flavor.

I have heard tfa VBIC can kind of overtake a mix (not so much the Cap VBIC), but both caddisfly's & my versions are really pretty heavy on the cherry flavor, so either way, my guess is that would still stand out. You might be right about it muddling up the "pie" effect--the ratio of crust-to-cream. You could always try one as written and then add a bit to find out for sure.

t to stand out, might mute the cherry pie too much. That and the amount of total flavor used perhaps being so high as to give off a chemical taste
 

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I keep staring (and drooling) over these 3 fine cherry pie recipes. I keep wondering if with the addition of some Cap or TPA VBIC (or both), I might come up with something like a Cherry Pie..ala mode. My concern is that the VBIC, for it to stand out, might mute the cherry pie too much. That and the amount of total flavor used perhaps being so high as to give off a chemical taste.
Perhaps I should just stick with the "Daintanee Method". :idea:

Ron
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Oh, I love that vbic. I think it would go good with cherry. Can't say I'm overly impressed with FA cherry, I really need to put inw cherries in my cart. I'd just take out the Vienna cream and or fresh cream and add that ice cream. I did not have that flavor until a few weeks ago.

I have a method? My impatience? :xD:
 

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Oh Lirruping, I put inw cherries in my cart!:bliss::stars2::yes:I did! Just waiting for the 10 ml size of FE Lemon to b available and am purchasing! That will definitely tarten up that cherry. I also just got inw rhubarb the other day. Love it as a tart addition of .25%! I made a mix with .25% inw rhubarb with other flavors and guess what? I even waited 2 entire days to try it!:D
 

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I'm excited to see what you think of INW cherries. My first impression was "ugh, Christmas candle!", but don't worry if you have that reaction--it doesn't shape up that way in a vape with other flavors--especially with fa black cherry.

I'm pleased to know that inw rhubarb is nice and tart. My grandma used to make rhubarb pies from her garden--kind of sweet & sour. I loved them.
My current cart is getting a little unwieldy now... esp. considering I don't know where to put the flavors I already have. :gaah:Did you find the rhubarb at bull city?
 

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:wave: Aren't these new emoticons fun? hehe.
I'm looking forward to using this one, once I figure out what it means: :xD: (temper tantrum, maybe? That would come in handy. : - ))
 

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:wave: Aren't these new emoticons fun? hehe.
I'm looking forward to using this one, once I figure out what it means: :xD: (temper tantrum, maybe? That would come in handy. : - ))

I Googled it and found:
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x-D or xD or X-D or XD means Laughing, big grin, laugh with glasses. If you'll tilt your head to left and imagine that D is mouth then you can clearly see that somebody is laughing with his eyes closed.
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Somehow, to me, that just doesn't seem to fit. I'll ask Siri later mebbe. :popcorn:

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Yes, I got inw rhubarb from Bull city. I think ecig express has it too. Just no one vendor seems to stock or keep in stock all my wants:gaah:! So now I have a cart going at ecig. That rhubarb is extremely potent! My 10 ml bottle will last year's as I cannot see using it over .5%…seriously. I really like that Fruit Express lemon from ecig express as well as inw lemon cake. Very, very tart flavors!

Grandma made the best rhubarb custard pie! The one rhubarb is a challenge to work with. I accidentally made an awesome vape thanks to @Squonk 2 cakes! Mixing half his 2 cakes with half of a failed attempt at Rhubarb Custard Pie turned out amazing! That inw lemon cake goes surprisingly well with rhubarb. I like it so much I'll post the recipe if Squonk approves....but I don't see many people having the rhubarb or a top vapor flavor called triple sec:(
 

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