I got lots of warnings and lots of time outs.....my mistake...I wandered onto the "outside" threads where there were political discussions going on....anyone who didn't share the politcal views of the mods were attacked, and trumped up excuses were leveled in order to silence the political views that differed from those of the fat rosie cheeked sow of a moderator.They were a bunch of facist creeps....all of them ....the mods were total a**holes....
There was a time when ECF had total control on information about vaping,but that time is long gone....there are now so many experinced vapers around,on so many diffrent forums,that ECF is history.You always go on forums and see people you knew from ECF when you were starting out....The other thing maybe that I believe,I'm not sure....is that ECF is or was started by englishmen,and the europeans don't share americas values on freedom of speech and thought.....
I just don't go there very often, as the more experinced vapers have wandered off to other forums........even today I would not recommend ECF to a begining vaper, there are other forums,and I choose not to support ECF in any way.I saw too many good people get beaten up by the sociopaths they have as mods.
As I've traveled around diffrent forums, I've discovered they may all have some diffrent attitudes toward..sex,drugs,polotics ect....but I have never have come across a forum that was as punishing and mean spirited as ECF.