You beat me to it with this point. Well said.If twisted has absolute proof then why wasn't it posted along with the half ass claim? I have proof! But ya gotta wait for it
You beat me to it with this point. Well said.If twisted has absolute proof then why wasn't it posted along with the half ass claim? I have proof! But ya gotta wait for it
Rip is not on regulated FCC controlled media. I don't think Federal Trade Commission laws apply to Youtube. If it does, please show the link to the FTC/FCC laws concerning the internet and youtube in particularActually if he is doing this it doesn't matter what we think. Its against the law not to disclose that your endorsing a product or service for payment. Its an FTC requirement. This is why all those infomercials say "paid actor", etc. I was walking the line with Vaporjoes and put up a transparency statement anyway to cover all my basis.
Oh my, it's on Reddit so it must be true.
It takes a LOT of views, but you would be surprised at how much some have made
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/celebrity/the-25-highest-earning-youtube-stars/
All I want to know is what did Rip Trippers do to these guys to piss them off, because this is obviously something personal and has nothing to do with who gets paid for what.
Oh my, it's on Reddit so it must be true.
Me either...I never cared much for his reviews...his "style" obviously appeals to some people but never has for me so whatever he did or didnt do wont affect me in the least......I think the biggest issue is integrity. He has said all along he doesn't get paid and whatnot. But if he actually is and is lying about it, that creates another issue. Personally I could give two shits less what he does and what he gets paid for.
If twisted has absolute proof then why wasn't it posted along with the half ass claim? I have proof! But ya gotta wait for it
I do not know what YouTube pays for views, but I doubt anyone can quit their day job in the vaping community to do reviews and vlogs all day.
As far as I'm concerned, as a simple consumer who wants true honesty, they can all suck my dick until they choke on it. The real reviews are found on forums where real users can post their true experience with the products, such as this here board.
I did say it takes A LOT of views But does open your eyes to some of these guy's yearly incomes (those are yearly).. However, the million $ people aside, could you live on, say, $100,000 a year if all you did was do reviews and some appearances for it?And NO ONE in the vaping community will ever see money like that. Lowest listed earner has over a half BILLION views.
Depends.I did say it takes A LOT of views But does open your eyes to some of these guy's yearly incomes (those are yearly).. However, the million $ people aside, could you live on, say, $100,000 a year if all you did was do reviews and some appearances for it?
I have been self employed, so ya... While some try to make a living at it, it aint gonna happen. Not in the vaping world anyways. Point was though, they are getting paid via YouTube, free stuff, discounts, behind the scenes 'gifts', expenses for show appearances, etc, etc..Depends.
100K sounds like a lot of money. Until you start adding up expenses. Like Taxes, equipment costs, and various other overheads.
100K isn't jack to someone that is self employed.
To replace a job that pays you 50k a year, to be self employed you need to make 150k.
All I see here is a bunch of jackalls trying to steal a piece of the festering carcass that is the vaping market.
So, dishonest reviewers get outed by jealous rivals who'd like a slice of the pie, eh? In the end, they're all pathetic little shits, because blabbermouths ain't no better than sellouts.
Make no mistake, my fellow vapers: the vaping market is getting big and professional, and the players in that space are vying for position. They're not doing reviews as a service to you, and they don't tell on other reviewers for the sake of fairness, but ultimately to secure a lucrative future source of income.
As far as I'm concerned, as a simple consumer who wants true honesty, they can all suck my dick until they choke on it. The real reviews are found on forums where real users can post their true experience with the products, such as this here board.
Watched three hours of Mod Envy and still no credible evidence to support any of this. Joe didn't even challenge Twisted at all, just let him slide on the bs excuse that he would post evidence tomorrow on youtube. Enough with this sloppy tabloid sensationalism. When something real happens nobody will take anybody seriously because all they will remember is bs like this.
That's about right.fixed it for ya. no need for a thank you.
Watched three hours of Mod Envy and still no credible evidence to support any of this. Joe didn't even challenge Twisted at all, just let him slide on the bs excuse that he would post evidence tomorrow on youtube. Enough with this sloppy tabloid journalism. When something real happens nobody will take anybody seriously because all they will remember is bs like this.
Bwahahahhaha. You're funny man.This would make for a great post on my blog! Just need some more info on it. Links anyone?
Not sure what's funny. What's all the fuss about? This would be a nice juicy post!Bwahahahhaha. You're funny man.
If it was just this then it would be a non issue.
But it is the shake down of vendors for positive reviews.
A day late and a dollar short, as the saying goes.Not sure what's funny. What's all the fuss about? This would be a nice juicy post!
Twisted420 better have a smoking gun and a dead body, otherwise he's going to come across as a jealous sook who's trying to destroy the reputation of someone who has 3 or 4 times the subscribers he has.
Take what you know about shit.. you do not have to take a big whiff of it to know it smells like shit.And you get this info from where? Way to draw a conclusion based on zero evidence there, bud.
Frankly, I don't think much of loud, obnoxious drama-queens, but if'fn he's spouting facts, my opinion is irrelevant, to facts presented.All I want to know is what did Rip Trippers do to these guys to piss them off, because this is obviously something personal and has nothing to do with who gets paid for what.
Actually if he is doing this it doesn't matter what we think. Its against the law not to disclose that your endorsing a product or service for payment. Its an FTC requirement. This is why all those infomercials say "paid actor", etc. I was walking the line with Vaporjoes and put up a transparency statement anyway to cover all my basis.
I did find it a bit distasteful on tonight Mod Envy show to be bashing him over being an introvert and possibly suffering from social anxieties to the point that he does not do appearances or meets. I mean that kind of thing when severe enough borderlines a mental illness and really should not be the butt of jokes but whatever I got no dog in this fight.
Different in that he doesn't get into the whole vape scene like most other reviewers. He does his reviews and that's it. I respect him for being able to separate his family life and vaping reviews. You get the feeling with some other reviewers and vaping identities that vaping is their life, it's all they've got. Maybe Rip Trippers is just too busy to get involved in vape conventions and vape shows, or maybe he just wants a life outside vaping, I don't know.Rip Trippers is different from what? Just look at the protagonists involved in this BS: there's Suck My Mod the fake white trash, Twisted the fake *****, and Rip Trippers the fake over-the-top good ole boy. They all put on a show to pander to a certain American subculture.
If you watch Rip's first video's he come across as very shy. I think that is the true person. After getting comfortable behind the camera then he jazzed it up. As far as vape shows and conventions go I am the same way. I stay away from them. Most are geared towards cloud chasing and over priced tubes. Fine if that's your thing though. Again this whole thing is nothing but sensationalism or twisted really has a hard time posting his other guaranteed to blow your socks off information.
Rip Trippers is different from what? Just look at the protagonists involved in this BS: there's Suck My Mod the fake white trash, Twisted the fake *****, and Rip Trippers the fake over-the-top good ole boy. They all put on a show to pander to a certain American subculture.
[...]At any rate this is all just another black eye to the vape community and puts doubt in the integrity of those we trust to guide us in the right direction.[..]
It is so hard to tell the difference in a biased and unbiased review anymore because you just don't know what goes on behind the scenes. There were many who thought Phil Busardo was paid to give a shining review of the Cloupor 30w even though it was junk. Who knows except him and Cloupor. Same with this situation. Until a particular vendor or vendors come out and backs these claims it is all hearsay. I mean seriously how would Matt or Twisted really know if he receives money for shining reviews. They could be getting this information from butt hurt vendors who did not get a good review from Rip.
At any rate this is all just another black eye to the vape community and puts doubt in the integrity of those we trust to guide us in the right direction.
I have done reviews for different Harley parts on a few forums. I did them on my own to help fellow riders make informed buying decisions. Several vendors took notice to my reviews. Especially a few that noticed a spike in sales after my review was posted. Several have contacted me and asked me if I would be interested in doing a review of a new products. I was actually floored that they trusted my opinion. And was flattered at the same time. It also helped that I got a few free items out of it. But the thing about these vendors is they didn't encourage me to give a good review if I didn't think the product deserved it. They wanted an honest opinion. So if there were issues they could correct them. A few items I did give not so stellar reviews on. And they went back to the drawing board and made changes. To them my reviews weren't all free advertising. They were real world R&D. I don't think the vape community operates much that way. As they should.